Sleek-Jet
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You mind if I share your story with my people? Great illustration of how customer service attitude can make all the difference.
I am surprised you did not consider a solar solution. full 4kW 120VAC kit is around $6k on ebay. you can upgrade to a two phase or three phase inverter for around $2k more.
well, he did say 100 amps was not really a requirement...Yeah, that 30 amp solution would run his shop with plenty left over. Is there an option to make the sun shine at night?
but it is always good to build in some margin to the systemI do not think I will need 100 amps
well, he did say 100 amps was not really a requirement...
but it is always good to build in some margin to the system
nonetheless
knowing you are an electrician I will not second guess your mockery of my proposition. I humbly submit that even after adding a battery bank an off grid solar solution is competitive. but, being that you are an electrician, I defer to your expertise to help the OP through this build. best regards.
I need constant power for the camera's when we are gone. We spend winters in Florida and want to have cameras running. Plus I need about 55 amps when I turn on the a/c. Another reason is I do not know what the future holds. May end up running a welder in the future.I am surprised you did not consider a solar solution. full 4kW 120VAC kit is around $6k on ebay. you can upgrade to a two phase or three phase inverter for around $2k more.
You mind if I share your story with my people? Great illustration of how customer service attitude can make all the difference.
wow. I really respect your authority, but I am perplexed that you are unaware of how off grid solar works.What good are batteries? They have a finite run time.
got it. if you are not already dead set against considering a solar solution, can you provide just a few detailsPlus I need about 55 amps when I turn on the a/c
wow. I really respect your authority, but I am perplexed that you are unaware of how off grid solar works.
excess charge provided by solar generated electrons is plated onto batteries during daytime for consumption during cloudy or nighttime consumption.
my own home has a single phase system that can run indefinitely should mains power fail or be turned off. but it is single phase so my A/C unit and oven are unpowered when the other phase is removed. nonetheless, the system charges during the day and we use excess at night (if mains are out). we are in a high insolation area at south 34 degrees.
I am going to go fill in the blanks for you and the OP by roughing out a possible system that may work for him (and you I suppose).
got it. if you are not already dead set against considering a solar solution, can you provide just a few details
...where is the home? how many inductive loads? I know about the A/C and will assume 55A continuous...anything else with +++ inductive or high inrush? expected average continuous load when you are in there working?
No worries. continuous power is possible. the off grid thing is popular in Germany, so even northern climes can be engineered.
Your cameras will be subject to interruption of internet service I suppose, but we can even engineer a small generator backup as double redundancy in case the batteries deplete under snowy or cloudy conditions. maybe even triple redundant with a small circuit from mains to run the cameras alone in case of gen/solar incapacity, rather than a buried 100/200/400A line.
hmmm...was that an edit? a welder. will investigate.
...you are already going in with easement and trench and have bought conduit. so sorry if I have bothered you.this project
interested in different ways and learning something new.
Your cameras will be subject to interruption of internet service I suppose, but we can even engineer a small generator backup as double redundancy in case the batteries deplete under snowy or cloudy conditions.
sorry, I did not catch this post earlier
...you are already going in with easement and trench and have bought conduit. so sorry if I have bothered you.
but I still will exercise myself as a personal curiosity and to help make the c/b tradeoff clearer.
What are the rates at Big Sandy Co-op?...might help me when doing the payback period.
OK. I will. Thanks for being a source of problems to solve.I know how solar systems work.
You claim your home system will stay up "indefinitely." But in the next paragraph, the undeniable fact emerges. As I said, batteries have a finite capacity. Your answer would be to provide more batteries.
A solar system would be an expensive and unsatisfactory solution for the OP's requirements. Your suggestion to provide a generator to power his cameras, a one or two amp load, is laughable. No competent engineer would consider such a thing, unless, of course, he was trying to sell a solar installation.
But go ahead and peddle your psuedo expertise.
Thank you. Here is our view most nights.I'm in awe Bravo for you and sticking with it despite so many unforeseen obstacles being tossed in your path. Really awesome the power company was willing to work with you and make some concessions to make it happen --- Again Bravo
Can't wait to see the lights on
PS: Damn, that's some purty country !!!!
Thank you. Here is our view most nights.
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For some reason we are seeing more wild life this year. 2 weeks ago saw a pretty good sized bobcat creeping up the hill beside the house. Last week sitting on the patio talking with my friend and we hear some movement out front. Grab the flashlight and saw a fox. It went into the woods and we heard a bunch of deer running away. Then the next morning a deer was in the front having breakfast. There is good and bad though. Was walking down the path you see above and saw some trash. Went to go pick it up and heard a rattler. I stopped and looked around. Off to my left about 15 ft in front of me was a snake. Looked about 7-8ft long and the rattle was going. I backed up and walked the other way. Nature worked, he did what he was suppose to do and so did I.
Keep the grass short Here in rural SD, when I go into my grove this time of year, I tend to carry a rake or my big cordless blower and either rake or blow the leaves off my main pathways. Hoping the disturbance will cause one to alert, or by blowing I'll expose him or cause him to move and notice the movement. Bastards are really well camo'ed in the avocado leaves. I mow the grove or weed whack early in the season, so during rattler season it' pretty much just leaves to provide cover.
Doing some underground electrical distribution in Mission Viejo years ago. Damned rattler dropped into our trench while we were all off to the side having lunch.
Fortunately, another trades person saw him and altered us. Bastard was still hard to find, because he was concealed under the edge of the pair of 4" we'd already laid in the trench.
We watched REAL good after that.
I am familiar with rural SD. We lived in Jamul for 8 yrs before we retired and went on the road. Where are you?
I usually make noise as well, but I was thinking about something else and almost regretted it.