Uncle Dave
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Gonna be interesting to see how this goes down.
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but it is only for lying about talking to the russian ambassador after the election. nothing to see there. I heard he finally broke him financially and he had to before he had to sell his house.
Nailed it. Prosecutor 101.You could be completely correct.
But I wonder why would Mueller give up multiple charges against Flynn to include tax evasion that could have resulted in over 50 years in prison for a 6 - 12 month deal, as well as charges against Flynn's son? And why would the plea deal state that Mueller can charge him and his son with the other crimes if Flynn's "full cooperation and full coordination" is not deemed complete?
If all Mueller had was Flynn, why cut a deal with Flynn and spare Flynn's son? If Flynn didn't have additional facts to present to a grand jury, take Flynn and his son down and call the investigation over?
Why would Mueller cut a deal for simply lying to the FBI and not go for all the charges he believed he had against Flynn and his son?
Either Mueller and his team of prosecutors is incompetent, or there is another shoe to drop?
Nailed it. Prosecutor 101.
To be clear, I don't think anyone is going to jail for a 1799 bill known as the Logan Act. Incoming administrations regularly talk to foreign governments even if technically illegal.
The question remains, given most previous administrations have done it during transitions, why lie about it?
I don't get it nor where this is going other than a few more officials going to jail for lying and a fairly tough to prove obstruction case?
How about when they talk to the Turks about kidnapping and extraditing dissidents living in the US in exchange for millions of dollars?To be clear, I don't think anyone is going to jail for a 1799 bill known as the Logan Act. Incoming administrations regularly talk to foreign governments even if technically illegal.
The question remains, given most previous administrations have done it during transitions, why lie about it?
I don't get it nor where this is going other than a few more officials going to jail for lying and a fairly tough to prove obstruction case?
Comey had the same info and decided it wasn't worth pursuing before muller came along. I don't think they still have anything after a year that amounts to anythingYou could be completely correct.
But I wonder why would Mueller give up multiple charges against Flynn to include tax evasion that could have resulted in over 50 years in prison for a 6 - 12 month deal, as well as charges against Flynn's son? And why would the plea deal state that Mueller can charge him and his son with the other crimes if Flynn's "full cooperation and full coordination" is not deemed complete?
If all Mueller had was Flynn, why cut a deal with Flynn and spare Flynn's son? If Flynn didn't have additional facts to present to a grand jury, take Flynn and his son down and call the investigation over?
Why would Mueller cut a deal for simply lying to the FBI and not go for all the charges he believed he had against Flynn and his son?
Either Mueller and his team of prosecutors is incompetent, or there is another shoe to drop?
Haven't dug in enough to know.
I suspect there is something to see since he's agreed to testify against trump.
I wonder what he has already on his "radio" he's likely been wearing for a while.
Well see, could be nothing - could be huge.
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possibly - I don't trust any news anymore.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mich...se-statements-fbi-documents/story?id=50849354
Is ABC fake news or not? I lose track of who is and isnt fake news when guys like fox arent except for when people don't like Shep Smith, then they are fake.
This place backed flynn early on claiming scapegoating, but it turns out there was more than that.
I think its to early to tell what if anything this means for El Presidente.
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, there was no plea deal,
This whole talk about hating the Russians sounds like racist liberal behaviors run amuck.
The Russians didn't have one thing to do with Killary losing the election & it's crazy that grown adults buy into the media saying they did.
If a guy pleads guilty to lying to the FBI, Isn't he pretty much useless as a witness?
If a guy pleads guilty to lying to the FBI, Isn't he pretty much useless as a witness?
Excellent point....the FBI witness is a liar..... But keep in mind that a witness can not only offer testimony to "prosecute"", but can also testify to "exonerate" .....
Of course they did, just like they always do and always have- foreign meddling isn't a new thing.
Just like we meddle in other affairs continuously so do they - what effect it has is the question - and I can't see much.
Question I have is if its really all benign why all the subterfuge? - why all the lying around it rather than just coming clean?
I think it probably effects the guys around el presidente more than himself.
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About the only significance of this new development is that it gives the Mueller a valid reason to extend their investigation.
or as they say, Carte Blanch to use unlimited funds and authority to fuck with anyone they want.
To be clear, I don't think anyone is going to jail for a 1799 bill known as the Logan Act. Incoming administrations regularly talk to foreign governments even if technically illegal.
The question remains, given most previous administrations have done it during transitions, why lie about it?
I don't get it nor where this is going other than a few more officials going to jail for lying and a fairly tough to prove obstruction case?
Serious question. If lying to Congress and/or the FBI is a jailable offense, why isn't HRC in jail for lying about Benghazi or the server/email debacle? It seams to me the typical punishment for this is a slap on the wrist, which amounts to nothing.
Trump said pussy.
Serious question. If lying to Congress and/or the FBI is a jailable offense, why isn't HRC in jail for lying about Benghazi or the server/email debacle? It seams to me the typical punishment for this is a slap on the wrist, which amounts to nothing.
Serious question. If lying to Congress and/or the FBI is a jailable offense, why isn't HRC in jail for lying about Benghazi or the server/email debacle? It seams to me the typical punishment for this is a slap on the wrist, which amounts to nothing.
Small block Mech promised to assasinate a member of RDP!
Because after 22 hearings there was NO ONE left alive to testify..
Serious question. If lying to Congress and/or the FBI is a jailable offense, why isn't HRC in jail for lying about Benghazi or the server/email debacle? It seams to me the typical punishment for this is a slap on the wrist, which amounts to nothing.
Because after 22 hearings there was NO proof..
Hey saucer!
You ok there buddy?
You seem agitated lately, and a little off your game.
Don't tell me you're still teared up over this shit?
Lol!Nope I'm great! Maybe all this running around getting restraining orders, ip addresses, putting up extra security cameras, training my dog to sniff out 10W30 etc, has been wearing me out a bit lately.
That is some funny shit, GPAU!!Nope I'm great! Maybe all this running around getting restraining orders, ip addresses, putting up extra security cameras, training my dog to sniff out 10W30 etc, has been wearing me out a bit lately.
Serious question. If lying to Congress and/or the FBI is a jailable offense, why isn't HRC in jail for lying about Benghazi or the server/email debacle? It seams to me the typical punishment for this is a slap on the wrist, which amounts to nothing.
Flynn plead guilty to making false statements, there was no plea deal, there were no bigger charges.
oooooohhhhh shiiiit!! dropi'n truth bombs!Racey,
Attached is a copy of Flynn's plea agreement......
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/01/rea...-agreement-details-of-how-he-lied-to-fbi.html
While I wait for the fuel truck I will give you the short serious answer.
HRC was a well educated lawyer, who practiced at a large firm and who had participated in thousands of depositions and been a first lady of a state and the country. And as a result, she knew how to lie without committing perjury. She knows the legal standard of what constitutes perjury and walked the line.
Sad but true.
It's sad that someone so well educated to turn their back on their kind. By "kind", I mean human.Thank you. I appreciate the response.
possibly - I don't trust any news anymore.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mich...se-statements-fbi-documents/story?id=50849354
Is ABC fake news or not? I lose track of who is and isnt fake news when guys like fox arent except for when people don't like Shep Smith, then they are fake.
This place backed flynn early on claiming scapegoating, but it turns out there was more than that.
I think its to early to tell what if anything this means for El Presidente.
UD