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Cut the cord and take an active role in finding the news.
Pay a few bucks a month for news you like.

Don't rely in a service provider to put it on a platter for you.
 

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cut DTV yesterday.... they no longer have SX coverage on race-day (at least for 80% of the races)

what are they even good for anymore? saves me $120 a month.
 

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ATT also dropped OAN a while back.

Oh, and they think white people are the problem...

 

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Newsmax demanded more money. Directv said no thanks.

Seems like a standard business dispute over money.

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DirecTV, owned by AT&T, continues to carry 22 liberal news channels that are paid hefty license fees despite their low ratings. In April 2021, AT&T DirecTV canceled OAN, also claiming cost-cutting.

In April. Newsmax CEO Christopher Ruddy stated, "This is a blatant act of political discrimination and censorship against Newsmax."
Ruddy continued, "The most extreme liberal channels, even with tiny ratings, get fees from AT&T's DirecTV, but Newsmax and OAN need to be deplatformed." Newsmax claims that most other channels receive license fees higher than what Newsmax was seeking.

Rep. James Comer, who chairs the powerful House Oversight Committee, said on Newsmax Friday that there will be "a committee that's going to hold hearings" on DirecTV's cancellation of its contract to air Newsmax, as there appears to be a "pattern" among media leaders to censor conservative speech.
 

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DirecTV, owned by AT&T, continues to carry 22 liberal news channels that are paid hefty license fees despite their low ratings. In April 2021, AT&T DirecTV canceled OAN, also claiming cost-cutting.

In April. Newsmax CEO Christopher Ruddy stated, "This is a blatant act of political discrimination and censorship against Newsmax."
Ruddy continued, "The most extreme liberal channels, even with tiny ratings, get fees from AT&T's DirecTV, but Newsmax and OAN need to be deplatformed." Newsmax claims that most other channels receive license fees higher than what Newsmax was seeking.

Rep. James Comer, who chairs the powerful House Oversight Committee, said on Newsmax Friday that there will be "a committee that's going to hold hearings" on DirecTV's cancellation of its contract to air Newsmax, as there appears to be a "pattern" among media leaders to censor conservative speech.
Directv is free to do business with or not with whomever they choose.

Free speech covered by the first amendment only limits the government from restricting your speech. It does not protect private actors such as Directv from limiting speech on their private platform.

Your premise that the government should force a private enterprise to carry Newsmax or any other content as well as force a private enterprise to pay whatever the government demanded to Newsmax is antithetical to even the most basic conservative views of freedom, liberty and smaller government.
 

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Directv is free to do business with or not with whomever they choose.

Free speech covered by the first amendment only limits the government from restricting your speech. It does not protect private actors such as Directv from limiting speech on their private platform.

Your premise that the government should force a private enterprise to carry Newsmax or any other content as well as force a private enterprise to pay whatever the government demanded to Newsmax is antithetical to even the most basic conservative views of freedom, liberty and smaller government.

Yes it appears they are free to do so and DirecTV is proving themselves to be almost as biased as you. ....I feel certain this censoring of Conservative viewpoints pleases you....... but unlike you, I believe the Gov has the responsibility to "promote the general welfare"* and protect "related" free speech regardless of the delivery source. Big Money is destroying Free Speech, and DirecTV has no problem paying more for the Liberal medias which is an unfair practice and discriminates Conservative News outlets..........Once again, your quick defense of the Liberal agenda is noted, but never surprising ;)

*The Preamble states that an overriding purpose of the U.S. Constitution is to "promote the general welfare," indicating that issues such as poverty, housing, food and other economic and social welfare issues facing the citizenry were of central concern to the framers.

The Gov can not sit ideally by and only allow "one-view" and biased viewpoints to reach the public as other viewpoints are deliberately censured.....if they continue to do so, they are not seeking freedom nor what's in the the best interest to our nation and they are certainly not promoting the general welfare. :cool:
 
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Yes it appears they are free to do so and DirecTV is proving themselves to be almost as biased as you. ....I feel certain this censoring of Conservative viewpoints pleases you....... but unlike you, I believe the Gov has the responsibility to "promote the general welfare"* and protect "related" free speech regardless of the delivery source. Big Money is destroying Free Speech, and DirecTV has no problem paying more for the Liberal medias which is an unfair practice and discriminates Conservative News outlets..........Once again, your quick defense of the Liberal agenda is noted, but never surprising ;)

*The Preamble states that an overriding purpose of the U.S. Constitution is to "promote the general welfare," indicating that issues such as poverty, housing, food and other economic and social welfare issues facing the citizenry were of central concern to the framers.

The Gov can not sit ideally by and only allow "one-view" and biased viewpoints to reach the public as other viewpoints are deliberately censured.....if they continue to do so, they are not seeking freedom nor what's in the the best interest to our nation and they are certainly not promoting the general welfare. :cool:
So your view is that the government should mandate and control what programming is available across thousands of different media outlets.

The “general welfare” is best determined by the government and not by each individual. And any media outlet that is deemed by the government too liberal or conservative would then be forced to make their content in a way that precludes “bias” and promotes “other views”?

Sounds a little bit like state run programming.

Fact is Newsmax is free to compete and has literally thousands of ways to broadcast their programming. And the argument that the government is best in determining fair content and forcing a private business such as directv to not only carry but force directv to pay for something they don’t want is exactly why we have and need the constitution.

My lord you guys have gone crazy with this government knows best bullshit? I thought the establishment government was the problem? Now you want it to have the power to pick and choose what media one gets or does not get.
 

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You know whats' funny? I am not even a fan of Newsmax...... I am a fan of level playing fields.......when CNN is paid more by DTV than Newsmax......there is no level playing field....only censorship..... Nothing fair about that. :cool:
They are private businesses competing. What each program is worth should be up to the business owner such as directv in this case. Not the government.

The market is the best means to level the playing field. Newsmax can be found no problem.

Your solution that the government should tell directv what programming to include and what they have to be forced to pay for it is just odd for a free market conservative as you profess to be.

Directv doesn’t carry the pac12 network. Are they censoring the pac12? Of course not. They are making a business decision on what programming to carry and at what price.
 

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They are private businesses competing. What each program is worth should be up to the business owner such as directv in this case. Not the government.

The market is the best means to level the playing field. Newsmax can be found no problem.

Your solution that the government should tell directv what programming to include and what they have to be forced to pay for it is just odd for a free market conservative as you profess to be.

Directv doesn’t carry the pac12 network. Are they censoring the pac12? Of course not. They are making a business decision on what programming to carry and at what price.
Although DTV is a Liberal promoting platform......I guess it is like porn......we as a society must tolerate their poor judgement in efforts to protect Capitalism and Free Speech. Those of us who oppose, can and will simply cut them off. :cool:
 

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Although DTV is a Liberal promoting platform......I guess it is like porn......we as a society must tolerate their poor judgement in efforts to protect Capitalism and Free Speech. Those of us who oppose, can and will simply cut them off. :cool:
Exactly how it should be. They live or die by the market. Cut them off if you don’t like what they are doing.

The last thing anyone should want is the camels nose under the tent of having government control over a private businesses programming.

Glad to see you coming around to conservative ideals.
 

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Exactly how it should be. They live or die by the market. Cut them off if you don’t like what they are doing.

The last thing anyone should want is the camels nose under the tent of having government control over a private businesses programming.

Glad to see you coming around to conservative ideals.
I'm always there provided we keep America 1st! :cool:
 

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Directv is free to do business with or not with whomever they choose.

Free speech covered by the first amendment only limits the government from restricting your speech. It does not protect private actors such as Directv from limiting speech on their private platform.

Your premise that the government should force a private enterprise to carry Newsmax or any other content as well as force a private enterprise to pay whatever the government demanded to Newsmax is antithetical to even the most basic conservative views of freedom, liberty and smaller government.
And your premise about it being a straight forward monetary business decision is correctly identified as pure bullshit.
 

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And your premise about it being a straight forward monetary business decision is correctly identified as pure bullshit.
I strongly suspect the "Gov" is very much involved with these "business decisions" as much as they were involved with Twitter's censorship decisions.....and "we" would not have known this w/o Musk.....so yes, I agree it's all bullshit and I fully support a Congressional investigation...... ;)
 

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I strongly suspect the "Gov" is very much involved with these "business decisions" as much as they were involved with Twitter's censorship decisions.....and "we" would not have known this w/o Musk.....so yes, I agree it's all bullshit and I fully support a Congressional investigation...... ;)
You forgot the end of the paragraph where you admit that you support a congressional investigation because you believe government is the solution in programming decisions of private companies.

That you believe government should curtail private companies rights to free speech in order to enforce whoever is in charge of governments view of the “general welfare”. A direct violation of the first amendment which protects private companies decisions about free speech from government interference. ☹️
 

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I strongly suspect the "Gov" is very much involved with these "business decisions" as much as they were involved with Twitter's censorship decisions.....and "we" would not have known this w/o Musk.....so yes, I agree it's all bullshit and I fully support a Congressional investigation...... ;)
They seem to certainly have a hand in it.
One need only to watch most cable channels a very short time to see that the commercials are geared towards gays, blacks, and especially gay blacks.
One would be forgiven for believing well over half of the population consists of fat gay black people with HIV if one went strictly off of the ads. All white people have ED and incontinence.
So when did product advertising turn its back on market research and customer demographics?
That is the core of all advertising..
But not anymore. No advertiser is going to do that without getting compensated for ignoring theor customer base.
 

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You forgot the end of the paragraph where you admit that you support a congressional investigation because you believe government is the solution in programming decisions of private companies.

That you believe government should curtail private companies rights to free speech in order to enforce whoever is in charge of governments view of the “general welfare”. A direct violation of the first amendment which protects private companies decisions about free speech from government interference. ☹️

Did it ever occur to you that certain Government agencies are already involved with "tampering and censoring" Free Speech as evidenced by Twitter and Musk.... If "they" are doing the same at DTV we have a right to know and therefore a Congressional investigation is warranted in order to determine if certain agencies of Gov, ie: DOJ, FBI, or CIA are "tampering and censoring" DTV in the same manner as they did with Twitter and these efforts would assist in outing and stopping the very things you claim you are trying to prevent. Who other than Congress holds the power and authority to launch such an investigation into these "possibly" corrupt Gov agencies? Whereas you oppose Making America Great Again, I say you are MORE concerned and afraid of what a Congressional investigation may uncover and find!
 
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Did it ever occur to you that certain Government agencies are already involved with "tampering and censoring" Free Speech as evidenced by Twitter and Musk.... If "they" are doing the same at DTV we have a right to know and therefore a Congressional investigation is warranted in order to determine if certain agencies of Gov, ie: DOJ, FBI, or CIA are "tampering and censoring" DTV in the same manner as they did with Twitter and these efforts would assist in outing and stopping the very things you claim you are trying to prevent. Who other than Congress holds the power and authority to launch such an investigation into these "possibly" corrupt Gov agencies? Whereas you oppose Making America Great Again, I say you are MORE concerned and afraid of what a Congressional investigation may uncover and find!
How about 2 years ago when Directv pulled the plug on CBS just in time to black out most of CBS's series season finales ?
Or Fox, or NBC, and investigate Dish Network for doing likewise ?
Following these blackouts, both DTV and Uber-Liberal CBS (Or whatever network got their plug pulled) all run ads promoting their stance as being valid and encouraging subscribers to contact the other company with written or verbal complaints, or to cancel your subscription and obtain the alternate company or cable provider's service.
I admit, I don't know squat about Newsmax, never intentionally watched it or any news on TV other than the weather, which I find barely tolerable.
This is however, common practice with both Satellite and cable providers and requesting or expecting a congressional investigation for each time some station's plug gets pulled when that company allows their contract to expire, in my opinion isn't warranted, or any of their business.
It's Television, it's for entertainment, not critical infrastructure and people's lives and welfare are not endangered.
 

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It's Television, it's for entertainment, not critical infrastructure and people's lives and welfare are not endangered.
I respectfully disagree.......It is Television, it can be used for entertainment as well as promoting propaganda.....therefore the Truth is in danger and thus as is the welfare of the people. "Do you deny Gov agencies were influencing Twitter? IMO, This goes way beyond Private Companies simply competing. All I seek is the Truth and there is certainly no harm in that. ;)
 

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I respectfully disagree.......It is Television, it can be used for entertainment as well as promoting propaganda.....therefore the Truth is in danger and thus as is the welfare of the people. "Do you deny Gov agencies were influencing Twitter? IMO, This goes way beyond Private Companies simply competing. All I seek is the Truth and there is certainly no harm in that. ;)
Well then, I'd like to offer my congratulations to you having completed all your Alt-Indoctrination training 👍👏🥳
Obviously, your programming was 100% successful and may the Paranoia be with you, always. ;)
Just remember, when you're sleeping, we're still watching you ---- errrrr I mean, they are. 😶‍🌫️

Good luck with your quest for the truth, there's plenty of choices to pick from, I'm sure you'll find one to your liking. 😁
 

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Hollywood has always been in lock-step with the government…

 

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I respectfully disagree.......It is Television, it can be used for entertainment as well as promoting propaganda.....therefore the Truth is in danger and thus as is the welfare of the people. "Do you deny Gov agencies were influencing Twitter? IMO, This goes way beyond Private Companies simply competing. All I seek is the Truth and there is certainly no harm in that. ;)

That doesn't count cause "TwiTtEr iS a PriVaTe CoMpAnY" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 

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Well then, I'd like to offer my congratulations to you having completed all your Alt-Indoctrination training 👍👏🥳
Obviously, your programming was 100% successful and may the Paranoia be with you, always. ;)
Just remember, when you're sleeping, we're still watching you ---- errrrr I mean, they are. 😶‍🌫️

Good luck with your quest for the truth, there's plenty of choices to pick from, I'm sure you'll find one to your liking. 😁
Well, much better than being a blind sheep... 😂 And please remember, Uncle Fauci say's don't forget to take your booster, and Biden Loves you! 🤣🤣🤣
 
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Well, much better than being a blind sheep... 😂 And please remember, Uncle Fauci say's don't forget to take your booster, and Biden Loves you! 🤣🤣🤣
Sorry, all I hear is BAHHHHHHH and all I see is a sheep who's fooling nobody but himself, but whatever makes you feel special, go with it. ;)😁
 

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Sorry, all I hear is BAHHHHHHH and all I see is a sheep who's fooling nobody but himself, but whatever makes you feel special, go with it. ;)😁
It's Ok......I understand...plain English and conservative logic can be hard for some peeps to understand. Please try again after you wake up. :p
 
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NEWSMAX, is the only Network to broadcast All of President Trump's Rallies.🤔
 

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Cut the cord and take an active role in finding the news.
Pay a few bucks a month for news you like.

Don't rely in a service provider to put it on a platter for you.
Im too lazy... I'll just complain about it!!
 

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Although DTV is a Liberal promoting platform......I guess it is like porn......we as a society must tolerate their poor judgement in efforts to protect Capitalism and Free Speech. Those of us who oppose, can and will simply cut them off. :cool:
You got a problem with porn? 😇
 

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Well then, I'd like to offer my congratulations to you having completed all your Alt-Indoctrination training 👍👏🥳
Obviously, your programming was 100% successful and may the Paranoia be with you, always. ;)
Just remember, when you're sleeping, we're still watching you ---- errrrr I mean, they are. 😶‍🌫️

Good luck with your quest for the truth, there's plenty of choices to pick from, I'm sure you'll find one to your liking. 😁
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Looking to dump AT&T Direct Stream for either Fubo or Hulu. Fubo has Newsmax.
 
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