Game Changer... this time it really is.

[JD D05]

This has never happened.

 

[ElAzul]

You getting in line for one?

 

[n2otoofast4u]

It’s real! I caught wind of this about a month ago from a guy who is definitely “in the know” when I was contemplating buying a new sled. He said wait, new shit will pop in 30 days that’s right up your alley!

 

[JD D05]

You getting in line for one?

I am going to hold off for now.

 

[JD D05]

It’s real! I caught wind of this about a month ago from a guy who is definitely “in the know” when I was contemplating buying a new sled. He said wait, new shit will pop in 30 days that’s right up your alley!

They are already in local warehouses. My buddy has 4, ready to roll on Friday.

 

[TITTIES AND BEER]

Looks cold

 

[Go-Fly]

In 1982 the wife and I bought two 9500 Skidoo's. That was big shit back then. Some good times. I'd run out of talent on the new machines but, I'd die with one big fucking smile on my face.

 

[buck35]

I love my Boondocker Polaris but that's bad ass! Finally a factory turbo sled with a warranty.

Loved mine till I windowed the block.

Never buy a first year model!

 

[JD D05]

Looks cold

It is stay away

 

[JD D05]

In 1982 the wife and I bought two 9500 Skidoo's. That was big shit back then. Some good times. I'd run out of talent on the new machines but, I'd die with one big fucking smile on my face.

These machines get a lot of folk into shit they can't handle lol. You would be fine

 

[Go-Fly]

These machines get a lot of folk into shit they can't handle lol. You would be fine

We are selling our place on the coast and buying a place in Eastern Oregon. We've talked about spending a winter or two in the snow and getting two new machines. I haven't a clue where to start.

 

[JD D05]

We are selling our place on the coast and buying a place in Eastern Oregon. We've talked about spending a winter or two in the snow and getting two new machines. I haven't a clue where to start.

I could help with that....depends on what and how you want to ride. But in my opinion its either ski doo or Polaris

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

Loved mine till I windowed the block.

Never buy a first year model!

Big difference between buying a factory turbo rig and an aftermarket set-up. And can-am seems to have their shit together on all their factory turbo rigs. JMO

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

Big difference between buying a factory turbo rig and an aftermarket set-up. And can-am seems to have their shit together on all their factory turbo rigs. JMO

Loved mine till I windowed the block.

Never buy a first year model!

Now Polaris on the other hand I wouldn't buy their first year of anything..

 

[Uncle Dave]

In 1982 the wife and I bought two 9500 Skidoo's. That was big shit back then. Some good times. I'd run out of talent on the new machines but, I'd die with one big fucking smile on my face.

The blizzard 9500 - great machine trying to remember without looking it up but I think it was a 550 water cooled twin.. I used to run down yamahas pretty hard with that.

My badest ass sled was a ported/ milled thundercat 1100 triple.

Dont have such experience on the new 4 stroke stuff, but looking forward to it.

UD

 

[Go-Fly]

I could help with that....depends on what and how you want to ride. But in my opinion its either ski doo or Polaris

I have a lot of miles on this body of mine. I want a quit, smooth ride with a hot latte holder.

 

[Go-Fly]

The blizzard 9500 - great machine trying to remember without looking it up but I think it was a 550 water cooled twin.. I used to run down yamahas pretty hard with that.

My badest ass sled was a ported/ milled thundercat 1100 triple.

Dont have such experience on the new 4 stroke stuff, but looking forward to it.

UD

Water cooled twin, two stroke. Dual Mikuni carbs that where hard to keep running until it warmed up.

 

[Uncle Dave]

Now Polaris on the other hand I wouldn't buy their first year of anything..

Ha no kidding - especially their cars - is been like 10 new models in a row with few of them being tuned

 

[buck35]

Now Polaris on the other hand I wouldn't buy their first year of anything..

I did the first year proride in 10, spring ordered an 11. A sweet ride till it blew up idling down a trail at about 1200 miles.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

Can-am has been working on this motor for quite a few years and a ton of testing. Before they came out with the X3 there was talk about 1000cc version for their SXS line. Something happened, word was EPA and street use of a 2stroke.

 

[prorider]

Only 165 horsepower. That sucks.

 

[Uncle Dave]

Only 165 horsepower. That sucks.

Really thats it?

Not impressive considering my old cat was way over 200 and could just about hit 130 on lake.

I never did mountain sledding, now that Im up in he sierras all the time its going to start this season.



UD

 

[prorider]

That’s what they’re saying. Maintain that up to 8000 ft

 

[JD D05]

Really thats it?

Not impressive considering my old cat was way over 200 and could just about hit 130 on lake.

I never did mountain sledding, now that Im up in he sierras all the time its going to start this season.



UD

Aftermarket kits like Silber are 200 plus. With that said my stock 850 is pretty ridiculous. Mountain riding is obviously very different, top speed means nothing. The track with the 3 inch lugs will throw paddles over 50mph. I am sure Evo etc will have tunes for them soon also to bump it.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

I was told its 165hp at the track. Most snomo's are at the crank and you lose approximately 30%+ through the cvt.

 

[Uncle Dave]

Aftermarket kits like Silber are 200 plus. With that said my stock 850 is pretty ridiculous. Mountain riding is obviously very different, top speed means nothing. The track with the 3 inch lugs will throw paddles over 50mph. I am sure Evo etc will have tunes for them soon also to bump it.

Im leery of aftermarket shit, having bought and blown up a ton of shit in my life - but boondockers put a pretty good clutch kit together for my RZR and finally stopped the shredded belt issue every other ride.

Haven't done lots of mountain riding, but some in evergreen col, I was on a ZRT 600 triple -not much of a powder rig but still impressed me as fun and responsive. Did some brainerd minnesota riding too.

Grew in in small hills, moderate terrain , woods, and fast open areas like lakes and cornfields. Short to moderate tracks.

We've all got our preferences for sure, but most of these rigs are pretty bitchin.



UD

 

[JD D05]

Im leery of aftermarket shit, having bought and blown up a ton of shit in my life - but boondockers put a pretty good clutch kit together for my RZR and finally stopped the shredded belt issue every other ride.

Haven't done lots of mountain riding, but some in evergreen col, I was on a ZRT 600 triple -not much of a powder rig but still impressed me as fun and responsive. Did some brainerd minnesota riding too.

Grew in in small hills, moderate terrain , woods, and fast open areas like lakes and cornfields. Short to moderate tracks.

We've all got our preferences for sure, but most of these rigs are pretty bitchin.



UD

That's why I have not done a turbo on my sled. They seem to be pretty dialed in but I don't want to miss time due to issues etc. Yes the big 3 all have good mountain sleds. If you ever want to come out and try my buddy runs a great operation out here in Utah.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

That's why I have not done a turbo on my sled. They seem to be pretty dialed in but I don't want to miss time due to issues etc. Yes the big 3 all have good mountain sleds. If you ever want to come out and try my buddy runs a great operation out here in Utah.

Doesnt happen to be Mack at mountain performance in Draper does it?

 

[JD D05]

Doesnt happen to be Mack at mountain performance in Draper does it?

No...Tracked Out

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

No...Tracked Out

Gotcha.. turbo sleds and utah always makes me think of mack as I have delt with him quite a bit in the past. Super cool guy with a ton of knowledge building turbo kits. He helped Yamaha with the turbo kits for the nytro and was a consultant for the yxz. . And he was one of the first to develop a working "reliable" turbo kit when the rzr 800 came out for trey at MCX

 

[rrrr]

This new Rotax engine is what the aircraft industry calls "turbonormalized", that is, it puts out a constant rated horsepower as altitude increases, instead of providing a large horsepower boost across the engine's operating RPM band.

This method simply ties the wastegate to a barometric altimeter. As the altitude increases and atmospheric pressure drops, it adjusts the boost to keep the intake air charge pressure equal to 29.92" Hg, which is the standard barometric pressure at sea level.

This keeps the engine's horsepower output at its sea level rating of 165 HP up to 8,000' (according to the product literature), at which point the wastegate is completely closed and the turbocharger is producing its maximum volume. A turbonormalized system makes the boost level transparent to the engine, and thus has no deleterious effect on operating stresses and longevity.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

It’s cute how you guys think SXS are death traps

 

[JD D05]

It’s cute how you guys think SXS are death traps

I never said that. I said they scare me lol, but that has everything to do with the sand dune scene. I have only been a passenger and coming over a blind dune at 50 mph freaks me out.

Avalanches are the biggest risk snowmobiling. I am L1 certified and know how to manage conditions. With that said most snowmobile riders don't.

 

[buck35]

Nothing more true in sledding than know yor limitations, and conditions.

 

[prorider]

Will be easier to make motor live with such little boost. In Colorado we start at 8000. I agree avalanches suck.

 

[n2otoofast4u]

Friend of a friend. He had all his gear on, as did the rest of the group as I understand it. 33, couple little kids... Shit happens fast!

https://democratherald.com/news/sta...cle_93dcaf9b-7504-545f-9e8b-a6caaa6d9a0a.html

 

[JD D05]

Friend of a friend. He had all his gear on, as did the rest of the group as I understand it. 33, couple little kids... Shit happens fast!

https://democratherald.com/news/sta...cle_93dcaf9b-7504-545f-9e8b-a6caaa6d9a0a.html

Sorry to hear that.

 

[JD D05]

 

[rrrr]

Sorry to hear that.

Do you ride in areas with posted avalanche warnings? The guy in Oregon did.

 

[JD D05]

Do you ride in areas with posted avalanche warnings? The guy in Oregon did.

Well sort of. I read the report everytime I ride for the appropriate area. I assume avalanche danger everytime I ride.

 

[rrrr]

That's how it should be.

 

[Danger Dave]

Snow machines are a blast. We've only done the rental ones by Island Park and Brundage, but they are a ton of fun.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

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Is that one of the new turbo sleds?

 

[JD D05]

Is that one of the new turbo sleds?

Yes it is

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

Yes it is

Haha.. just couldnt help yourself huh..lol that's awesome!!

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

I am by no means a snomo guy. But always interested in performance shit. Let us know what you think after you run it.

Have fuk'ed with quite a few snomo set ups in sand drag chassis though..lol

 

[JD D05]

Haha.. just couldnt help yourself huh..lol that's awesome!!

LOL

 

[n2otoofast4u]

Do you ride in areas with posted avalanche warnings? The guy in Oregon did.

Everywhere we ride is an avalanche prone area. That’s why we have sleds with big HP and giant tracks. “The guy in Oregon did” is kind of a bullshit statement, because we all do, essentially every time we kick a leg over a sled or a bike.

 

[rrrr]

Everywhere we ride is an avalanche prone area. That’s why we have sleds with big HP and giant tracks. “The guy in Oregon did” is kind of a bullshit statement, because we all do, essentially every time we kick a leg over a sled or a bike.

It wasn't bullshit at all, it's a fact. I asked a question about avalanche warnings, it was answered as I thought it would be.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

These guys are not riding groomed trails at the snow park.. any "off trail" mountain riding has potential for an avalanche. I honestly think that's part of the thrill they seek. No different than say, cliff diving, sky diving things that thrill seekers seek. Like us the run the river that is deemed unnavicable. Shit can happen at any time, and some time it does. Some better at it that others and some can read the terrain better than others and some shouldn't be there at all. I have a buddy that knows the river better than most(even the sheriff) I've see people try and fallow him, they missed his path by 2 - 3 feet and split there jet boat right down the keel from a boulder just under the water line. I know they make radio avalanche beacons, but honestly, how many mountain riders use them? I have friends that do and friends that dont. It's all about that adrenaline!! And I'm sure "that guy from Oregon" knew what he was doing and knew the risk but his luck ran out. People die in car accidents on there way to work or home everyday! At least he was doing what he loved.....