@grandpamac, @squeezer, @rodnjen, @ bobbyv

[dnewps]

Keep it short. Who’s your #1 and # 2and # 3 presidents...ever? We are all Americans...I want to know. I probably agree.

 

[Danger Dave]

"Obama, Obama, and Obama." - Regor

 

[dnewps]

No really

 

[Grandpa mac]

Lincoln, Washington, FDR

 

[dnewps]

Jfk?

 

[Grandpa mac]

No, he was killed before the Civil Rights Act passed so I’d give that point to Johnson.

 

[dnewps]

No, he was killed before the Civil Rights Act passed so I’d give that point to Johnson.

Uggg.. johnson? Ok.

 

[dnewps]

Bobbyv? Squeezer? Rodnjen?

 

[Grandpa mac]

Not saying Johnson was one of our greatest but I do regard the Civil Right Act as the defining moment of the 60’s, and that was Johnson not Kennedy. I’m glad JFK and Khrushchev didn’t start WW3 and I’m glad JFK got us to the moon and started the Peace Corp, but I’d add Teddy Roosevelt and Jefferson to my list above JFK. Maybe Truman and some others too.

 

[dnewps]

Truman? He dropped the bomb on defeated Japan!! Interesting

 

[Grandpa mac]

They weren’t defeated until he bombed at least Hiroshima. Could he have given them a demonstration first? Perhaps but risky. I think most historians believe the death count would have been higher if he had not dropped those bombs.

 

[dnewps]

Yeah...I want to agree

 

[dnewps]

Is it possible that we were acting on behalf of British imperialism against Japanese Imperialism?

 

[HTTP404]

"Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, and Joseph Stalin" - grandpamac, squeezer, rodnjen, bobbyv

 

[squeezer]

Nixon
Buchanan
Jackson

 

[4Waters]

Lincoln, Washington, FDR

Lincoln is racist, he fought to keep blacks as slaves.

 

[RodnJen]

I don’t have a list, I’ll pass.

 

[Grandpa mac]

Is it possible that we were acting on behalf of British imperialism against Japanese Imperialism?

Perhaps our own imperialist tendencies but not specifically British

 

[was thatguy]

In the 20th century, with very few exceptions, the absolute last enemy you’d want to engage in a land battle was the Japanese.
It doesn’t take a lot of intellectual theory to understand why we dropped 2 bombs on them.

 

[Wedgy]

In the 20th century, with very few exceptions, the absolute last enemy you’d want to engage in a land battle was the Japanese.
It doesn’t take a lot of intellectual theory to understand why we dropped 2 bombs on them.

I'd say the following applies to many more than a few Inmates on here. RIP all affected, but it's true. Every person who's Pop's did not die Island Hopping all the way to the Japanese mainland.

I wouldn't even be here, had we not Nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki.. Semper Fi Dad.

 

[was thatguy]

I'd say the following applies to many more than a few Inmates on here. RIP all affected, but it's true. Every person who's Pop's did not die Island Hopping all the way to the Japanese mainland.

I wouldn't even be here, had we not Nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki.. Semper Fi Dad.

Grandpa (RIP) was on a destroyer (sub Hunter). He survived the kamikaze attacks.
His neighbor in Ohio survived the Bataan death march.
You are 100% correct.
Simply taking a single ridge or hill on any Japanese held stepping stone would (and did repeatedly) take you to the last man. A land invasion of Japan in 1945 (if you could even get to the shores, let alone air drop) would be suicide.

There might still be some old Japanese dude dug in somewhere.
Tenacity doesn’t even begin to describe WWII Japanese soldiers.

 

[Gelcoater]

No, he was killed before the Civil Rights Act passed so I’d give that point to Johnson.

Lol! Civil Rights
Is that when your party told black folks they were equal? Yet didn’t have a black senator until the 1990s?

 

[was thatguy]

Lol! Civil Rights
Is that when your party told black folks they were equal? Yet didn’t have a black senator until the 1990s?

No shit. I laughed at that also.

We’ve all seen the LBJ quote about “I’ll have those “N’s” voting Dem for 200 years”
It’s no stretch to believe it even though it was not recorded.

But the following quote is on record.

“ These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.”

“This quote appears on page 155 of Goodwin’s LBJ biography. The utterance was made to Richard Russell, a fellow Democratic Senator from Georgia.”

Johnson and civil rights...that’s comedy gold!

 

[Grandpa mac]

Yeah and women won suffrage in 1920 but it took us 100 years to put one in the White House. Four years longer than it should have, thanks to y’all. The arc of the moral universe is long but it bends slowly toward justice.

 

[Grandpa mac]

No shit. I laughed at that also.

We’ve all seen the LBJ quote about “I’ll have those “N’s” voting Dem for 200 years”
It’s no stretch to believe it even though it was not recorded.

But the following quote is on record.

“ These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.”

“This quote appears on page 155 of Goodwin’s LBJ biography. The utterance was made to Richard Russell, a fellow Democratic Senator from Georgia.”

Johnson and civil rights...that’s comedy gold!

I suppose you believe the Great Emancipator was 100% motivated by feelings of racial equality? Nonetheless, he’s credited as being America’s finest President.

 

[SNiC Jet]

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[t&y]

But but.... but but but.... SHE IS A WOMAN and it is super important that she be in the white house.

 

[SNiC Jet]

But but.... but but but.... SHE IS A WOMAN and it is super important that she be in the white house.

 

[Grandpa mac]

Yeah, the overwhelming majority of African Americans have white slave owners in their ancestry for the very simple reason that your ancestors raped their great great grandmothers. Congratulations on trying to use that to score a political point against the first black woman Vice President.

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[Grandpa mac]

How racist and sexist do you have to be to completely discount being the attorney general of California and US Senator as appropriate background for a Vice President? What were Pence’s qualifications? Oh yeah, guess he was just some white Christian male...

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[t&y]

Yeah, the overwhelming majority of African Americans have white slave owners in their ancestry for the very simple reason that your ancestors raped their great great grandmothers. Congratulations on trying to use that to score a political point against the first black woman Vice President.

Give me a fucking break.

 

[t&y]

How racist and sexist do you have to be to completely discount being the attorney general of California and US Senator as appropriate background for a Vice President? What were Pence’s qualifications? Oh yeah, guess he was just some white Christian male...

Aren't you the one crying over whether or not there is a vagina in the white house versus a penis? If it's not to fill an agenda, it should be based on merit right? So what about Heels Up or Killary makes her so much better than anybody else?

 

[Grandpa mac]

Aren't you the one crying over whether or not there is a vagina in the white house versus a penis? If it's not to fill an agenda, it should be based on merit right? So what about Heels Up or Killary makes her so much better than anybody else?

Same question for you- Amy Comey Barrett. Really burns you up having black people in the a White House, doesn’t it? I guess when you’re accustomed to getting away with illegally stopping and frisking them it’s hard to see them as authority figures.

 

[Grandpa mac]

Give me a fucking break.

Oh sorry, you don’t believe slave owners raped their slaves?

 

[t&y]

Same question for you- Amy Comey Barrett. Really burns you up having black people in the a White House, doesn’t it? I guess when you’re accustomed to getting away with illegally stopping and frisking them it’s hard to see them as authority figures.

What's that line... Never go full retard. I guess it's way too far off for you at this point. I could care less what color of person is in the white house. I attack the policies they support. Mean while, you are complaining that there hasn't been a vagina in the white house and it's overdue. Look in the fucking mirror dipshit.

In regards to a Terry Pat down, keep cherry picking part of a conversation if that makes you feel better. There is only one of us in this conversation that actually has a working knowledge of a Stop and Frisk and understand how it's applied. It's not my problem if the book you read didn't explain how it actually works in real life.

 

[t&y]

Oh sorry, you don’t believe slave owners raped their slaves?

Sure they did. Do you believe no other black people have migrated to this country since the slave boats stopped floating?

 

[Grandpa mac]

Sure they did. Do you believe no other black people have migrated to this country since the slave boats stopped floating?

Sure they have, but 1st generation African Americans are a small percentage Relative to those who’s families have been here at least a generation and mingled with the descendents of slaves. And those with slave ancestors pretty much all have a white rapist from Alabama in their family tree.

 

[was thatguy]

Oh sorry, you don’t believe slave owners raped their slaves?

Well, yes, I believe some did.
Do you believe Hunter Biden raped the juvenile girls he's pictured naked with?
If so, Do you believe that His Dad is guilty by association?
Do you believe his own kids should be held accountable? Frankly the evidence is much more compelling there than for your current accusations.
How far back in history do you want to go for atrocities and reparations?
How do you assume that every white person is descended from slave owners?
How do you assume every black person is descended from African slaves?
Why do you call Harris African? She’s not at all African.
Your white guilt seems either all consuming, or simply phony and politicized.

 

[was thatguy]

Sure they have, but 1st generation African Americans are a small percentage Relative to those who’s families have been here at least a generation and mingled with the descendents of slaves. And those with slave ancestors pretty much all have a white rapist from Alabama in their family tree.

I’m out.
You’ve lost your mind completely.
Good luck.

 

[t&y]

Sure they have, but 1st generation African Americans are a small percentage Relative to those who’s families have been here at least a generation and mingled with the descendents of slaves. And those with slave ancestors pretty much all have a white rapist from Alabama in their family tree.

Earth Shattering News dipshit. The fact is most of us are mutts at this point. Your point about slave owners raping slaves is just plain stupid. What point are you really trying to make? The gene pool is diluted, well no shit dumbfuck.

 

[Grandpa mac]

Well, yes, I believe some did.
Do you believe Hunter Biden raped the juvenile girls he's pictured naked with?
If so, Do you believe that His Dad is guilty by association?
Do you believe his own kids should be held accountable?
How far back in history do you want to go?
How do you assume that every white person is descended from slave owners?
How do you assume every black person is descended from African slaves?
Why do you call Harris African? She’s not at all African.
Your white guilt seems either all consuming, or simply phony and politicized.

I’m responding to Snickers trying to score a political point off Hamilton Brown being one of Kamsla Harris’s ancestors. He is the one pretending this makes a Harris a hypocrite for being descended from slave owners. Sure she is, for the very simple reason that he raped her great great grandmother.

 

[Grandpa mac]

Earth Shattering News dipshit. The fact is most of us are mutts at this point. Your point about slave owners raping slaves is just plain stupid. What point are you really trying to make? The gene pool is diluted, well no shit dumbfuck.

Tell Snickers. He’s the one using it to revile Harris.

 

[SNiC Jet]

How racist and sexist do you have to be to completely discount being the attorney general of California and US Senator as appropriate background for a Vice President? What were Pence’s qualifications? Oh yeah, guess he was just some white Christian male...

Kamala Harris & Willie Brown: Her Relationship With Former San Francisco Mayor Explained

Yes, it’s true. U.S. Senator and Democratic vice presidential candidate Kamala Harris dated former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown years ago and before he was elected to that prominent position. Because the married Brown was already a powerful politician and the pair had a large age gap, the relationship has been used as fodder by Harris’s political critics over the years, who have accused her of accruing career benefit from the relationship.

Brown, "If Joe Biden offers the vice presidential slot to Sen. Kamala Harris, my advice to her would be to politely decline."

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[SNiC Jet]

Tell Snickers. He’s the one using it to revile Harris.

Yes I did!.....

 

[Grandpa mac]

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Guess who I am. When my wife was pregnant I paid a porn star for sex and my personal attorney went to jail later for buying her silence at my direction.

Or how about this one? One of my ex wives alleged that I violently raped her and numerous other women have come forward with stories that I sexually assaulted them. I did brag about being able to get away with grabbing women by the pussy, but I’d never really do it.

Or this? I’m a tax cheat with a history of multiple bankruptcies who was handed a fortune by his father and would probably have a higher net worth if I’d simply invested in mutual funds and not list a lot of money over the years on stupid ventures like Trump University.

Oops, I might havegiven the last one away...

 

[Grandpa mac]

Hey Snickers, any slave owners in your family tree? We’re they rapists too?

 

[SNiC Jet]

Guess who I am. When my wife was pregnant I paid a porn star for sex and my personal attorney went to jail later for buying her silence at my direction.

Or how about this one? One of my ex wives alleged that I violently raped her and numerous other women have come forward with stories that I sexually assaulted them. I did brag about being able to get away with grabbing women by the pussy, but I’d never really do it.

Or this? I’m a tax cheat with a history of multiple bankruptcies who was handed a fortune by his father and would probably have a higher net worth if I’d simply invested in mutual funds and not list a lot of money over the years on stupid ventures like Trump University.

Oops, I might havegiven the last one away...

Hey Snickers, any slave owners in your family tree? We’re they rapists too?

 

[riverroyal]

Lincoln, Washington, FDR

That explains everything. All irrelevant to todays world. Possibly great leaders then, times change. Grandpa thinking like a old man.

 

[Canuck 1]

Hey Snickers, any slave owners in your family tree? We’re they rapists too?

You really are an idiot, your blind hatred makes you a fool as well

 

[Grandpa mac]

That explains everything. All irrelevant to todays world. Possibly great leaders then, times change. Grandpa thinking like a old man.

The question was best presidents EVER and I’d argue the impact of these three is far more enduring than Trump, Bush, Reagan or any other name you care to offer. Without those three there might not be a United States.