Havasu Riviera Build

[Mark G]

Thanks for the offer. No special block for my house, all my block is stone veneered or stuccoed.

Any updates??

 

[Racer56]

Any updates??

I should have a permit in the next few days and we will start right away.

 

[Racer56]

Well the day finely came and we broke ground last Friday. Super excited to get this party started!

Excavation and grading should be done this week and masonry contractor is supposed to start sometime next week.

 

[Wmc]

Well the day finely came and we broke ground last Friday. Super excited to get this party started!

Excavation and grading should be done this week and masonry contractor is supposed to start sometime next week.

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Wendi and I were riding our bikes down there,

it's going to be very nice area. Views for days

 

[Tank]

That view though!!! drool!

 

[Racer56]

Almost done as of Monday afternoon.

 

[Racer56]

Finished grading early last week and now I have hit a bit of a road block. Received my masonry bid for the house and it's double of what my GC and I estimated. I did a material takeoff myself and my GC met with the masonry contractor in his office. He won't budge on price and says it's a reasonable bid and will be cheaper than anyone else in town. Going to start working on other options Monday and hopefully we can get this sorted out soon.

 

[Done-it-again]

Finished grading early last week and now I have hit a bit of a road block. Received my masonry bid for the house and it's double of what my GC and I estimated. I did a material takeoff myself and my GC met with the masonry contractor in his office. He won't budge on price and says it's a reasonable bid and will be cheaper than anyone else in town. Going to start working on other options Monday and hopefully we can get this sorted out soon.

How much block do you need and what size/style?

 

[Racer56]

How much block do you need and what size/style?

8" block = 2,288 ea.

12" block = 1,205 ea.

Plain grey block, Mixed pallets of bond beam with solid

 

[Done-it-again]

8" block = 2,288 ea.

12" block = 1,205 ea.

Plain grey block, Mixed pallets of bond beam with solid

Are you going to stucco it after?.... I'm not a block guy but could ask my cousin if he as this available. Still would need install.

the only block lingo I know is 8-8-16 lol

 

[Racer56]

Are you going to stucco it after?.... I'm not a block guy but could ask my cousin if he as this available. Still would need install.

the only block lingo I know is 8-8-16 lol

All of the block is getting stucco or stone on the outside and furred out walls on the inside. The block is 8x8x16 and 8x12x16. Full block is used at the ends of walls and corner's. Bond beam block is depressed on the inside to allow for rebar.

 

[Racer56]

We finally have movement at my house. Mark at MSJ construction dug the footings for the majority of the house this week. Ordered rebar yesterday for the foundations and the plumber should start next week to get some of the underground in.

 

[wet hull]

We finally have movement at my house. Mark at MSJ construction dug the footings for the majority of the house this week. Ordered rebar yesterday for the foundations and the plumber should start next week to get some of the underground in.

Are you required to get your footing pad soil compaction tested in Havasu? Your dirt looks solid but just curious.

 

[Fastdadtsmith]

Looks like the CMU issue not resolved yet? Just wondering if they are still 2 months out.

 

[Racer56]

Are you required to get your footing pad soil compaction tested in Havasu? Your dirt looks solid but just curious.

All of the mass grading and compaction was done by the developers and approved by the city, so no footing compaction test necessary. All of the foundations are in solid rock. When Pioneer did my excavation, we had them rip the rock with a excavator so the footings we're able to be dug. There's about a day or two of rock breaking in a few areas to get the footings a 100%.

 

[Racer56]

Looks like the CMU issue not resolved yet? Just wondering if they are still 2 months out.

All of the bids I received were outrageous and we decided to do all of the foundations ourselves to keep this project on budget. My general contractor is doing most of the leg work and I will bring out my employee's to do the rebar, formwork and lay block.

This is going to add some time to the front end of my build, as I am extremely busy with work in LA. I was ready to pay a small premium to get the work done by local Havasu contractors, but the lowest bid I received was more than double of what it should be.

 

[Mark G]

All of the bids I received were outrageous and we decided to do all of the foundations ourselves to keep this project on budget. My general contractor is doing most of the leg work and I will bring out my employee's to do the rebar, formwork and lay block.

This is going to add some time to the front end of my build, as I am extremely busy with work in LA. I was ready to pay a small premium to get the work done by local Havasu contractors, but the lowest bid I received was more than double of what it should be.

I hear you! I wanted to start a build up in Sunridge / Bullhead but the prices are insane. Don't want to eat up too much of my newly obtained retirement funds. Shit, even manafactured homes are a 2 year wait right now. Might just have to swing buy the lot and sit on it with a lawn chair and six pack until this mess cools down. Keep us posted.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

About time! Let's get this build going!

 

[Havasu blue label]

Rumor is marina is opening has the hoa mentioned anything

 

[Racer56]

Rumor is marina is opening has the hoa mentioned anything

The developers say the Marina will be open in May, but some of the subcontractors working on it say there's a lot of work left.

 

[Racer56]

Now that it's starting to cool down, I brought my guys out to tie all of the retaining wall footing rebar. We are scheduling inspection for next week and hopefully I will finally have concrete in the ground shortly.

 

[Racer56]

Finally poured all of the lower level retaining wall footings this morning. 78 CY's. Next up will be our mid level footings and pour in place portion of the retaining walls.

 

[DWC]

Finally poured all of the lower level retaining wall footings this morning. 78 CY's. Next up will be our mid level footings and pour in place portion of the retaining walls.

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That view is gonna be insane.

 

[Racer56]

Had a solid work weekend. I lined up two of my crew's to come this weekend, but one crew backed out Friday. With four guys we got 100 l/f of pour in place wall back formed and rebar mostly complete. We also got most of the 6' CMU wall at the back of the toy garage laid.

 

[Eliminator21vdrive]

What is the side setback there?

 

[Racer56]

What is the side setback there?

5'

 

[Havasu blue label]

That’s a very close neighbor

 

[RVR SWPR]

Racer,
Incredibile you have the knowledge and resources to accomplish your progress this week-end. 25 years down the road Riviera will be built out,impossible right now to comprehend the value,for sure beyond what we can imagine.
Well Done.

 

[Racer56]

Racer,
Incredibile you have the knowledge and resources to accomplish your progress this week-end. 25 years down the road Riviera will be built out,impossible right now to comprehend the value,for sure beyond what we can imagine.
Well Done.

Thanks for the kind words. I'm looking forward to the day my wife and I are having a cocktail on the deck overlooking the lake!

 

[FreeBird236]

Just caught up on your thread. I'm no expert on construction, but IMHO I think some day in the future you'll be glad you did your own foundation. Looking forward to the progress.

 

[Racer56]

Finished the masonry wall at the back of the garage yesterday. Finished rebar and forming of pour in place wall early today. Spent the rest of the day cleaning

up the work area and we are ready for City building inspection tomorrow morning. Pouring concrete and grouting walls Wednesday morning. I have a full semi load of block coming from Angelus in LA Friday.

 

[Englewood]

So jealous of this build. Can’t wait to see it finished. Even with the HOA that is gonna be the place to live in Havasu. The views are untouchable. I’m actually hoping some lots come down in price there. Wishful thinking lol.

 

[DWC]

Finished the masonry wall at the back of the garage yesterday. Finished rebar and forming of pour in place wall early today. Spent the rest of the day cleaning View attachment 1170130 View attachment 1170131 View attachment 1170132 up the work area and we are ready for City building inspection tomorrow morning. Pouring concrete and grouting walls Wednesday morning. I have a full semi load of block coming from Angelus in LA Friday.

Pretty badass build. Looking forward to seeing it done. PS. Angelus block is good product and good people.

 

[Racer56]

So jealous of this build. Can’t wait to see it finished. Even with the HOA that is gonna be the place to live in Havasu. The views are untouchable. I’m actually hoping some lots come down in price there. Wishful thinking lol.

PM me your price range and I will keep an eye out for a lot. There are lots coming up for sale by owner that are not on the MLS. Also there are people selling their lot's with plans that have decided not to build. There is a private Facebook group for the Riviera and I see what comes up for sale before the general public.

 

[Racer56]

We passed inspection today, pouring concrete tomorrow morning! Yeah

 

[Racer56]

Pretty badass build. Looking forward to seeing it done. PS. Angelus block is good product and good people.

Believe it or not, Angelus makes certain types of common block that is not even available in Havasu.

 

[NicPaus]

Believe it or not, Angelus makes certain types of common block that is not even available in Havasu.

What do you going to do about the pallet returns? At 37 a pop it adds up. Last time I ordered a semi of pavers from Angelus was 10 years ago. Pallet fee was not bad rhen and it's not to far from here.

 

[Racer56]

What do you going to do about the pallet returns? At 37 a pop it adds up. Last time I ordered a semi of pavers from Angelus was 10 years ago. Pallet fee was not bad rhen and it's not to far from here.

I'm buying everything from White Cap. They came today and picked up the return pallets and the form lumber I didn't use. My salesman in LA has been taking all of my orders and handling everything for me. It's one of the benefits of using a nationwide building supply company.

 

[NicPaus]

Nice. I thought you bought direct from Angelus. My go to spot is Associated Building Materials. They sell a lot of Angelus pavers and block.

 

[Racer56]

Nice. I thought you bought direct from Angelus. My go to spot is Associated Building Materials. They sell a lot of Angelus pavers and block.

I'm buying full block in Havasu and double open end "H" block from Angelus.

My next challenge is finding scaffolding. Believe it or not, there is not one single scaffolding company in Havasu. Everyone is telling me I have to go to Vegas or Phoenix to rent scaffolding. @monkeyswrench if you want to open a business in Mojave county with ZERO competition, a scaffolding rental company would be a great money maker.

 

[monkeyswrench]

I'm buying full block in Havasu and double open end "H" block from Angelus.

My next challenge is finding scaffolding. Believe it or not, there is not one single scaffolding company in Havasu. Everyone is telling me I have to go to Vegas or Phoenix to rent scaffolding. @monkeyswrench if you want to open a business in Mojave county with ZERO competition, a scaffolding rental company would be a great money maker.

Hell no! Times get tight, tweakers will bankrupt me!

 

[Racer56]

Hell no! Times get tight, tweakers will bankrupt me!

You have less than 6 months to buy your insulation rig so you can come do my house!

 

[NicPaus]

I'm buying full block in Havasu and double open end "H" block from Angelus.

My next challenge is finding scaffolding. Believe it or not, there is not one single scaffolding company in Havasu. Everyone is telling me I have to go to Vegas or Phoenix to rent scaffolding. @monkeyswrench if you want to open a business in Mojave county with ZERO competition, a scaffolding rental company would be a great money maker.

The local stucco guys have all there own? I have enough scaffolding to do a decent size house. But majority of my planks rotted. I did not use them for a few years. Tarp went bad. A few grand down the drain. Will have to buy new when the city approves the next houses. I will check with CSS in Gardena. Not even sure what they cost these days.

 

[warpt71]

I'm buying full block in Havasu and double open end "H" block from Angelus.

My next challenge is finding scaffolding. Believe it or not, there is not one single scaffolding company in Havasu. Everyone is telling me I have to go to Vegas or Phoenix to rent scaffolding. @monkeyswrench if you want to open a business in Mojave county with ZERO competition, a scaffolding rental company would be a great money maker.

I ran a scaffolding company for a couple of years. I really dont think there is a demand for it here in Havasu. As mentioned, all the stucco guys have their own frames and they only need a few to do the rv garages. Not many 2 story houses out here.

It almost sounds like a fun venture though! Maybe Im just burnt out with my current j-o-b

 

[Racer56]

The local stucco guys have all there own? I have enough scaffolding to do a decent size house. But majority of my planks rotted. I did not use them for a few years. Tarp went bad. A few grand down the drain. Will have to buy new when the city approves the next houses. I will check with CSS in Gardena. Not even sure what they cost these days.

All of the subs have to have their own scaffolding or they are SOL. This is one of the hold ups for certain trades in Havasu, as they don't have enough scaffolding to get a job ready to go prior to starting and also need to wait on other subs using their scaffolding to finish their work.

The wood planks cost more than the steel scaffolding frames. I have been looking and calling trying to figure out my next move.

 

[Racer56]

I ran a scaffolding company for a couple of years. I really dont think there is a demand for it here in Havasu. As mentioned, all the stucco guys have their own frames and they only need a few to do the rv garages. Not many 2 story houses out here.

It almost sounds like a fun venture though! Maybe Im just burnt out with my current j-o-b

There's a lot of other trades that need scaffolding besides stucco guys. There's a lot of 2 story plus construction going on all over Havasu. Between commercial, multi family, three story town homes and 2 story residential there has to be at least sixty jobs under construction and hundreds more in the near future. Shit, the Riviera has 20+ 2 story plus home's under construction as we speak.

 

[NicPaus]

Yeah the OSHA planks are expensive. CSS in Gardena on 139th if I recall. Was the best place to buy but that was 15 years ago. Last time I was there was 2013. I needed a few pieces.

Not sure what they charge to rent now days. I spent 10k initially for what would of cost 3500 to rent for a month with setup and removal.

If you can't find any options. Let me know how many frames you would need to use. My project is a ways out. I have all the frames, bars, x bars, legs and more. I have also used form boards for planks but that was owner builder with no other trades using it.

 

[warpt71]

There's a lot of other trades that need scaffolding besides stucco guys. There's a lot of 2 story plus construction going on all over Havasu. Between commercial, multi family, three story town homes and 2 story residential there has to be at least sixty jobs under construction and hundreds more in the near future. Shit, the Riviera has 20+ 2 story plus home's under construction as we speak.

That is a little surprising, how many of those projects have full scaffolding around them? Someone in town has to have the materials.

Setting scaffolding is something that Ill probably never forget. I set for all the trades as well, it was a fun time, if the owner wouldnt have been such a prick I may have stuck with it.

 

[Racer56]

Yeah the OSHA planks are expensive. CSS in Gardena on 139th if I recall. Was the best place to buy but that was 15 years ago. Last time I was there was 2013. I needed a few pieces.

Not sure what they charge to rent now days. I spent 10k initially for what would of cost 3500 to rent for a month with setup and removal.

If you can't find any options. Let me know how many frames you would need to use. My project is a ways out. I have all the frames, bars, x bars, legs and more. I have also used form boards for planks but that was owner builder with no other trades using it.

Thanks for the offer and I will let you know.

 

[Racer56]

Laid all of the 12" block this weekend. The wall is 8' high now, halfway done. From here on out it's all 8" block. Getting closer slowly but surely!