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What’s the over under of the ramp actually being done in may to be able to use the marina? 😂
 

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I'm just waiting to see that forklift roll out of that diamond crusted building with my bote on it, and gently lower my bote in that calm, protected, marina with crystal blue water, fully detailed, full of fuel, and completely stocked with food and cocktails for the day. A well dressed rack hand with white gloves on leading us to the bote, making sure everything is to our satisfaction before we shove off for a day of leisure boating. My smile never bigger knowing my marriage is saved from the ravages of backing a boat down a ramp and pulling it back out daily.
Holy shit 🤣🤣🤣
 

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I have not been south in a while, I was thinking I would see some framing up, didnt see any, are footings poured for houses yet?
Another, "holy shit". All of that money tied up... 😬
 

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hard money left the project union bank is the go to bank for the lots and one loan guy .in plan check ok good answer
 

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Do those sold lots sit there in permit-limbo indefinitely?
 

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I'm just waiting to see that forklift roll out of that diamond crusted building with my bote on it, and gently lower my bote in that calm, protected, marina with crystal blue water, fully detailed, full of fuel, and completely stocked with food and cocktails for the day. A well dressed rack hand with white gloves on leading us to the bote, making sure everything is to our satisfaction before we shove off for a day of leisure boating. My smile never bigger knowing my marriage is saved from the ravages of backing a boat down a ramp and pulling it back out daily.
Damn. You basically just described haul over marina or TNT marina in south Florida or pier 47 in jersey or lido dry storage In Newport or the wharf marina in Michigan, or whiskey slough marina on discovery bay, or ocean bay marina and storage in New York or performance boat center in LOTO or like 100’s of other high end indoor rack storage marinas with VIP service.
But I’m sure it won’t succeed in havasu. Who ever would do such a thing?? There zero market for it in havasu!
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Think how much more it’s going to cost to build now vs when you bought the lot lol!!! I’m in the it’s will never get off the ground camp
that's a really great point...I'm thinking it really doesn't matter to the cliental that actually purchased the lots?..or?
 

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Damn. You basically just described haul over marina or TNT marina in south Florida or pier 47 in jersey or lido dry storage In Newport or the wharf marina in Michigan, or whiskey slough marina on discovery bay, or ocean bay marina and storage in New York or performance boat center in LOTO or like 100’s of other high end indoor rack storage marinas with VIP service.
But I’m sure it won’t succeed in havasu. Who ever would do such a thing?? There zero market for it in havasu!
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Exactly. And where does that level of service exist in Havasu? Zeeeeeeerooooo places. Well maybe at Barrett :)

All those boats you pictured there already live in a nice garage in town or were towed in for the weekend and don’t need long term storage in Havasu.

Honestly I think there is probably a market for for ~50 boats in rack storage, not 300. It is just not part of the culture. These aren’t CC ocean boats, they are hot rod boats. No one wants their hot rod stored 4 stories up on a rack across town. They want it in their garage to look at.

And at 50 boats it’s easier to just provide a valet service and offsite storage.
 

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Exactly. And where does that level of service exist in Havasu? Zeeeeeeerooooo places. Well maybe at Barrett :)

All those boats you pictured there already live in a nice garage in town or were towed in for the weekend and don’t need long term storage in Havasu.

Honestly I think there is probably a market for for ~50 boats in rack storage, not 300. It is just not part of the culture. These aren’t CC ocean boats, they are hot rod boats. No one wants their hot rod stored 4 stories up on a rack across town. They want it in their garage to look at.

And at 50 boats it’s easier to just provide a valet service and offsite storage.
It seems like the one characteristic of Havasu that is different from the others is smaller hot rod boats that people actually work on. At those other places, it’s more of the lifestyle not the boats themselves. so I agree. It’s cooler to have a dime piece shiny in yoUr garage.


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If anyone wants to sell their lots I have a buyer. 1-5 lots in first or second!

just saying..
 
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Exactly. And where does that level of service exist in Havasu? Zeeeeeeerooooo places. Well maybe at Barrett :)

All those boats you pictured there already live in a nice garage in town or were towed in for the weekend and don’t need long term storage in Havasu.

Honestly I think there is probably a market for for ~50 boats in rack storage, not 300. It is just not part of the culture. These aren’t CC ocean boats, they are hot rod boats. No one wants their hot rod stored 4 stories up on a rack across town. They want it in their garage to look at.

And at 50 boats it’s easier to just provide a valet service and offsite storage.
It seems like the one characteristic of Havasu that is different from the others is smaller hot rod boats that people actually work on. At those other places, it’s more of the lifestyle not the boats themselves. so I agree. It’s cooler to have a dime piece shiny in yoUr garage.


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I don't know. I think your guys view point may be constricted. I think that place will actually fill to capacity quickly. It is a lifestyle that people from other places are used too and will use in Havasu. I know several people with huge houses with RV garages in havasu that have already said they'll be using the services and keep their boat there. Especially with ramps being a nightmare as of late. The guy pictured above with the 39 NT has 3 RV garages and still rents a storage unit at the Islander so he can use the ramp and would be the first to rack store that boat. You also have people that will come in from out of town and leave their boats for the season at the storage. Dry rack storage is a success in every location regardless of lifestyle. I don't see how it can't be a success when there's a waiting list at every storage unit place in havasu right now. I think you guys will be surprised at how well it's going to do.
 

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I don't know. I think your guys view point may be constricted. I think that place will actually fill to capacity quickly. It is a lifestyle that people from other places are used too and will use in Havasu. I know several people with huge houses with RV garages in havasu that have already said they'll be using the services and keep their boat there. Especially with ramps being a nightmare as of late. The guy pictured above with the 39 NT has 3 RV garages and still rents a storage unit at the Islander so he can use the ramp and would be the first to rack store that boat. You also have people that will come in from out of town and leave their boats for the season at the storage. Dry rack storage is a success in every location regardless of lifestyle. I don't see how it can't be a success when there's a waiting list at every storage unit place in havasu right now. I think you guys will be surprised at how well it's going to do.
It will do great for the market that wants it, which is the huge money CC guys, of which there might be what, 50 in town maybe. When I start seeing 15 unique 35+ foot CCs out there every weekend, I’ll believe there is a market for 300 boats in a building on racks.

I’ve heard here for years that “west coast CC’s” were the next big thing in Havasu turns out pontoons are the next big thing in Havasu.

No one with a $500k+ DCB wants it stored 3 stories up in a tin building with the doors open all day in a windy desert blowing shit all over and into their boat. The people with $200k-$300k boats aren’t going to pay the rack storage prices and already have storage lined out in their house or at a unit.

In the end, it won’t exist this decade as I’ve said all along. That level of service I outlined in my rack fantasy only exists in a couple places in Havasu and not nearly at that scale. A valet service make way more sense and is much more scalable and profitable.

I agree with you it could work at the scale there is demand for it (a few dozen boats). But the demand is so low, I don’t see how the investment is justified.
 
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It will do great for the market that wants it, which is the huge money CC guys, of which there might be what, 50 in town maybe. When I start seeing 15 unique 35+ foot CCs out there every weekend, I’ll believe there is a market for 300 boats in a building on racks.

I’ve heard here for almost 4 years that “west coast CC’s were the next big thing in Havasu” turns out pontoons are the big thing

No one with a $500k+ DCB wants it stored 3 stories up in a tin building with the doors open all day in a windy desert blowing shit all over and into their boat. The people with $200k-$300k boats aren’t going to pay the rack storage prices and already have storage lined out in their house or at a unit.

In the end, it won’t exist this decade as I’ve said all along. That level of service I outlined in my rack fantasy only exists in a couple places in Havasu and not nearly at that scale. A valet service make way more sense and is much more scalable and profitable.
I get what you're saying and I know we've discussed this before but I still think it will be a huge success and you'll be surprised. I do agree it aint gonna happen anytime soon. Everything out there takes forever and has already taken forever just to get to the point they're at now. 🤦‍♂️
 

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I'm just waiting to see that forklift roll out of that diamond crusted building with my bote on it, and gently lower my bote in that calm, protected, marina with crystal blue water, fully detailed, full of fuel, and completely stocked with food and cocktails for the day. A well dressed rack hand with white gloves on leading us to the bote, making sure everything is to our satisfaction before we shove off for a day of leisure boating. My smile never bigger knowing my marriage is saved from the ravages of backing a boat down a ramp and pulling it back out daily.
Then later in the day as you are eating your pre-made sandwiches you find that they they forgot the Grey Pupon. Boy, that would that ruin my day......because of that I am out!
 

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Then later in the day as you are eating your pre-made sandwiches you find that they they forgot the Grey Pupon. Boy, that would that ruin my day......because of that I am out!
I'd abandon ship at that point.
 

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I get what you're saying and I know we've discussed this before but I still think it will be a huge success and you'll be surprised. I do agree it aint gonna happen anytime soon. Everything out there takes forever and has already taken forever just to get to the point they're at now. 🤦‍♂️
I also understand your point. I think there are people in town that would sign up today.

I think in 12-15 years it could be a real thing. We have to hit the top of economic upswing we are on now, drop, and then come back up before it happens.
 

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There will be some lots that sit empty longer than expected. That’s every part of Havasu. Hell, Residential Estates still has golf course lots.
When the infrastructure is in place and and homes start going up it’ll pick up momentum quick. IMO it’ll be the premiere spot in Havasu. Docks, Marina, Restaurants and a place to keep visiting families. Love our neighborhood. I’d only move for a lake view at Refuge or Riviera. Building costs for those lots and the noise levels are my biggest concerns. As far as the vaunted market correction, for every person that gets hurt and has to sell there’s another sitting with cash waiting to “help out”. Played a few courses in Monterrey during the bottom of the last correction. Still remember all of the new builds, tear downs, Orange Construction fencing in the air.
 

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Exactly. And where does that level of service exist in Havasu? Zeeeeeeerooooo places. Well maybe at Barrett :)

All those boats you pictured there already live in a nice garage in town or were towed in for the weekend and don’t need long term storage in Havasu.

Honestly I think there is probably a market for for ~50 boats in rack storage, not 300. It is just not part of the culture. These aren’t CC ocean boats, they are hot rod boats. No one wants their hot rod stored 4 stories up on a rack across town. They want it in their garage to look at.

And at 50 boats it’s easier to just provide a valet service and offsite storage.


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