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that was the case a few years back... they got new QC inspectors and the fit and finish is 10 times better..I have been looking at this exact model and Floorplan. Everyone says Thor is junk, so I am really curious to hear your thoughts on this unit.
Please, keep this thread posted on any upgrades you do to this coach. I will be following along. I would interested if and when you decide to sell.SO HERES THE STORY... bout a year ago I bought a new 2021 palazzo.... well, didn't do my home work... palazzo has a queen bed... after a couple trips... no way... I need a king... the palazzo has the 300hp, aria 360hp... the palazzo a 2200 trans, the aria 3000 trans the palazzo 26,500 gvw the aria 32,500 the palazzo GCCW 32,500 the aria is 42,500.. so the aria will pull 10,000 plus more lbs.. the palazzo came with 27,000 btu ac and the aria 30,000 w// heat pumps.... palazzzo has 255-70-22.5 tires.... the aria..235-80-22.5's...palazo 2 slides... the aria 3 slides... but, the king tilt view in aria is the real deal... no more cramped up and pulling the covers back and forth....
not much to do to this one, already has big tires, 360 hp w/800 tq... palazzo is about 50k cheeper, but for 50 you get alot of stuff that really make it nicer to travelPlease, keep this thread posted on any upgrades you do to this coach. I will be following along. I would interested if and when you decide to sell.
this is my wifes want rig,...she liked the palazzo till we went in side this one.... I still have my camper vanWait
I thought you liked smaller coaches ?
My Thor Venetian has been awesome, always hear they are junk. Just use due diligence when you buy.I have been looking at this exact model and Floorplan. Everyone says Thor is junk, so I am really curious to hear your thoughts on this unit.
probley weighs about 22,000 lbs... so that leaves 20,000 cargo and tow... the hitch is 10 k and it will tow all of that with 10k left for the cargo on the coachSweet!
Whats it weigh empty or how much can it tow?
whats the hp???? somethings not right with your coach.... like I said if you would not have bought it I would have....but... those have a gvwr of 28,000 plus 10 towing cap...so 38,500 gccwr... but something was upgraded because they came with a 300 hp 660tq chassis... but those have little 255-70-22.5's seems like you have the bigger chassisI want the Thor Aria 4000 with the bath and a half / bunk beds and the drop down in the front..
How much could that tow?
How much can my current rig tow? 2014 Berkshire legacy 340 bh
whats the hp???? somethings not right with your coach.... like I said if you would not have bought it I would have....but... those have a gvwr of 28,000 plus 10 towing cap...so 38,500 gccwr... but something was upgraded because they came with a 300 hp 660tq chassis... but those have little 255-70-22.5's seems like you have the bigger chassis
what hp??? and have you weighed it... but no matter it will tow 10k... to be spot on... your coacccch fully loaded needs to be under 28,500 full loaded... a 10k trailer is gonna pu about a 1000 on the coach... but triple axel it will be less...So mine will tow 10?
the 40 has the same power as the 34... but the gcwr is 3k higher...I want the Thor Aria 4000 with the bath and a half / bunk beds and the drop down in the front..
How much could that tow?
How much can my current rig tow? 2014 Berkshire legacy 340 bh
first thing i will do when i get it is to weigh it at loves by apex in vegas...then after I load it i'll weigh it again...Sweet!
Whats it weigh empty or how much can it tow?
I'm with you on that... that's been my complaint for years.. they put little truck motors in big rv's But I was re schooled... I told a guy that and he schooled me,... said i got it backwards... he said they put big rv motors in little trucks now,... said you can watch videos all day where little trucks pulling 20k lbs fifth wheelers start whippin and flip the truck off the road.... my palazo has the 300hp 660tq 6.7.. going to kanab from vegas there's some pretty good grades, knowing that my rig has brakes for 32,000 lb gcwr, plus engine and trans brake make me more comfortable.. yeah it slows down up the grades.. but we're talking only adding a few minutes of travel time, that and the last trip was @ 11.2 mpg... even though I was at the full 32k lbs made it there and back with ease,.. never over heated the motor or trans... just what I prefer, to be able to use the 23k lbs of the tow rig.. as in able to use the bathroom, fridge, and pull over and take a nap if wanted..I have the 360/800 motor in my 7k pound 3/4 truck. No way I would want that in my 30k pound rv. That seems like a lot of weight for that motor. I have pulled 20k plus (gvw of 27k) and it was all she had to pull hills and never hit 6th gear.
Nice coach Steve and I dig RD’s set up with the bunks.
I think a dually f450 would be min....Lifted truck , big rubber pulling a 5th wheel , I wonder what the hell .
Where you going?this is my wifes want rig,...she liked the palazzo till we went in side this one.... I still have my camper van
crazy right now...Where you going?
what hp??? and have you weighed it... but no matter it will tow 10k... to be spot on... your coacccch fully loaded needs to be under 28,500 full loaded... a 10k trailer is gonna pu about a 1000 on the coach... but triple axel it will be less...
gccwr is 38,000... so fully loaded towing a loaded trailer you need to be at 38,000 lbs... a quick trip out to loves and you know for sure..
Price
MSRP
TBA
MSRP + Destination
TBA
Currency
US Dollars
Basic Warranty (Months)
12 Months / 24,000 Miles
Chassis Warranty (Months)
36 Months / 50,000 Miles
Powertrain Warranty (Months)
36 Months / 50,000 Miles
Engine
Engine
Cummins / I6 Diesel Pusher
Chassis Brand
Freightliner
Chassis Model
XC-Series
Cylinders
6
Horsepower
300 hp @ 2,600 RPM
Torque
660 ft-lbs. @ 1,600 RPM
Displacement
7 litres
Fuel Type
Diesel
Fuel Requirements
Regular
Carburetion Type
Fuel Injected
Turbocharged
Yes
Supercharged
No
Transmission
Transmission Brand
Allison
Transmission Type
6 Speed Automatic
Overdrive
Yes
Driveline
Driveline Type
4X2
Dimensions
Length
36 ft. (432 in.)
Width
8.33 ft. (100 in.)
Height
12.42 ft. (149 in.)
Interior Height
6.83 ft. (82 in.)
Wheelbase
17.33 ft. (208 in.)
Weight
Towing Capacity
10,000 lbs.
GVWR
28,000 lbs.
Capacities
Fuel Capacity
90 gal.
Storage Capacity
653 gal.
so again, what hp is yours???Well I have a 24 enclosed right now with an extended tongue.. I usually haul a sxs (4 seater) and 2 quads..
I want to step up to a 28’ or 30’ enclosed triple axle l.. part of the reason I wanted a new motorhome is I wasn’t sure mine could pull it? Albeit pulling the 24’ you don’t even know it’s back there in terms of weight.
Wel that and we want another half bath.
My old motorhome had a heat pump. Worked great.SO HERES THE STORY... bout a year ago I bought a new 2021 palazzo.... well, didn't do my home work... palazzo has a queen bed... after a couple trips... no way... I need a king... the palazzo has the 300hp, aria 360hp... the palazzo a 2200 trans, the aria 3000 trans the palazzo 26,500 gvw the aria 32,500 the palazzo GCCW 32,500 the aria is 42,500.. so the aria will pull 10,000 plus more lbs.. the palazzo came with 27,000 btu ac and the aria 30,000 w// heat pumps.... palazzzo has 255-70-22.5 tires.... the aria..235-80-22.5's...palazo 2 slides... the aria 3 slides... but, the king tilt view in aria is the real deal... no more cramped up and pulling the covers back and forth....
they're great when plugged in.....save propane when at rv parks..My old motorhome had a heat pump. Worked great.
He must have went to a holiday inn salesman class!But I was re schooled... I told a guy that and he schooled me,... said i got it backwards... he said they put big rv motors in little trucks now,...
Knock on wood my L-9 400hp has been awesome in my 40' coach. I believe mine is set at 1250 torque to if I remember right.He must have went to a holiday inn salesman class!
ISB 6.7s are for one ton trucks not 40' motor homes, its just about the price point, IMO of course
L9s or DD13s for the win
I whissh what you are saying was true, as of now the 6.7 360hp/800tq is the biggest power you can buy in a 34' coach.... and that was the reason I called the 34'alpine with the l9, 800 hp the HOLY GRAIL.... as of now the 34' ARIA claims that title... nobody sells a 34'r with the same or more power.... in fact, for me this one is the only I could find at any price point, most all have gas V10's.... one would think that you could never have too much power, but after watching videos of those little pick ups getting filpped off the road maybe thats true.... problem I see is they don't sell common sense to match the power... I hate to say this, but..some people just need more laws to keep them and those around them safe... even with the 300 hp... you will get there, and use less fuel than a gas 34'r... my draw the line is 30'.... under 30' go gas motor... over 30' go diesel pusher.... they tried to make 32' DP's but never could get them to handle right so they made the FRED's .. front engine diesels.... the price point made them not able to compete... so they didn't sell good...that and those that did buy took a bath on resale.. I think a 34'r 6.7 360hp FRED would be the ticket for me if they put the alisen 3000 trans.... tiffin makes the breese 33'r ... but it has the little nav star motor... horrible handling cramper that is super high priced..... the first ones they filled concrete in the front to stop the bounce... weight distribution gets way off with the motor in the back of a short WB coachHe must have went to a holiday inn salesman class!
ISB 6.7s are for one ton trucks not 40' motor homes, its just about the price point, IMO of course
L9s or DD13s for the win
It’s a secret.so again, what hp is yours???
That right there is the biggest thing when you start talking bigger power. If you can't cool it going up a hill, you can't really use it. what's the use of having it.long as the radiator would keep it cool...
I agree with everything you said, its unfortunate that the market has not pushed harder for sub 34' with big power. Shit dodge puts 700hp in passenger cars all day long!!I whissh what you are saying was true, as of now the 6.7 360hp/800tq is the biggest power you can buy in a 34' coach.... and that was the reason I called the 34'alpine with the l9, 800 hp the HOLY GRAIL.... as of now the 34' ARIA claims that title... nobody sells a 34'r with the same or more power.... in fact, for me this one is the only I could find at any price point, most all have gas V10's.... one would think that you could never have too much power, but after watching videos of those little pick ups getting filpped off the road maybe thats true.... problem I see is they don't sell common sense to match the power... I hate to say this, but..some people just need more laws to keep them and those around them safe... even with the 300 hp... you will get there, and use less fuel than a gas 34'r... my draw the line is 30'.... under 30' go gas motor... over 30' go diesel pusher.... they tried to make 32' DP's but never could get them to handle right so they made the FRED's .. front engine diesels.... the price point made them not able to compete... so they didn't sell good...that and those that did buy took a bath on resale.. I think a 34'r 6.7 360hp FRED would be the ticket for me if they put the alisen 3000 trans.... tiffin makes the breese 33'r ... but it has the little nav star motor... horrible handling cramper that is super high priced..... the first ones they filled concrete in the front to stop the bounce... weight distribution gets way off with the motor in the back of a short WB coach
anyway,... here's the challenge ... find a 34' and under coach with a bigger than 6.7 diesel engine...... I know that new smog laws will prohibit, but you could tune aa whole lot more power than 360 hp out of that motor... long as the radiator would keep it cool...