Holy Grail Hallett 270 - Starting the Project

[BHC Vic]

RD does not get discounts, he trades marketing exposure on RDP for work. Just like every business owner that I know.

Either way his prices are different than what mine would be. That was the point.

 

[240Hallett]

So in a bit of bad news.. Pedro said he can't get the yellow out. He tried some areas and no dice.

Steve's did a thread on the yellowing deal. He was using Plexus and said it would remove the yellow in small increments. I gave it a try. I guess I don't have Steve's touch.
It gradually fades with sun exposure, and then comes right back after winter.

 

[RiverDave]

The swim step gel is pretty burned up and we will regel that as well later.

The rest of the boat is coming out tits

 

[bocco]

You still didn't tell me who makes the drain plugs. Is it a secret?

 

[Done-it-again]

So following up on the yellow, Pedro tried to wet sand some of it and basically said he can't get it out and we will regel those areas later. The swim step gel is pretty burned up and we will regel that as well later.

The rest of the boat is coming out tits

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What is pardo exactly doing to bring out the current gel?

 

[Mach80]

You still didn't tell me who makes the drain plugs. Is it a secret?

Here you go..

http://www.eddiemarine.com/captive-garboard-drain-and-plug-stainless-steel-236-08?search=Drain plug

 

[RiverDave]

You still didn't tell me who makes the drain plugs. Is it a secret?

What is pardo exactly doing to bring out the current gel?

He's wetsanding and buffing the boat to try and fix the minor blemishes.. It will definitely get rid of most of that haze of the old clear that turned white over the years.

RD

 

[Gelcoater]

I considered pulling this pic and starting a thread in the gel section.

I guess you can move it there if you want?

The haze we see in the corner below the rail is where a repair has been done in the past. From the looks of it many years ago.

This is why in the past I have said I'd never advise someone to order a new boat with a front/rear cap job.
That cap is a repair. It will be he first place the boat starts showing its age.
Doesn't matter what you do, how puss you keep it, wax it every day if you like, eventually it will look like that.

I tell people that, and some don't care. "It looks cool" and fuck it, they won't own it when it starts looking like that. It'll be some else's problem.

As to the yellowing white. It's sort of a period problem. The late 90s early 2000s is when the gel mfgs were tinkering with formulas to meet AQMD standards.
It should sand out, but expect it to come back in a year or two. Maybe three knowing you garage your stuff and keep it waxed well.
The question is, how many times has it already been done?
I think you see where I'm going with that.
.

 

[ToMorrow44]

As to the yellowing white. It's sort of a period problem. The late 90s early 2000s is when the gel mfgs were tinkering with formulas to meet AQMD standards.
It should sand out, but expect it to come back in a year or two. Maybe three knowing you garage your stuff and keep it waxed well.
The question is, how many times has it already been done?
I think you see where I'm going with that.
.

I asked Gelcoater about the yellowing of my hull too (2001 model), I think you said it had to do with the amount of styrene in the gel..? Anyway, its the actual gel itself yellowing. Could also be the wax used on the boat (I guess carnuba wax will turn yellow on fiberglass), but that would probably sand out.

 

[Cole Trickle]

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I considered pulling this pic and starting a thread in the gel section.

I guess you can move it there if you want?

The haze we see in the corner below the rail is where a repair has been done in the past. From the looks of it many years ago.

This is why in the past I have said I'd never advise someone to order a new boat with a front/rear cap job.
That cap is a repair. It will be he first place the boat starts showing its age.
Doesn't matter what you do, how puss you keep it, wax it every day if you like, eventually it will look like that.

I tell people that, and some don't care. "It looks cool" and fuck it, they won't own it when it starts looking like that. It'll be some else's problem.

As to the yellowing white. It's sort of a period problem. The late 90s early 2000s is when the gel mfgs were tinkering with formulas to meet AQMD standards.
It should sand out, but expect it to come back in a year or two. Maybe three knowing you garage your stuff and keep it waxed well.
The question is, how many times has it already been done?
I think you see where I'm going with that.
.

Great information.... I had no idea and never even gave a cap job a second thought.[emoji106]

 

[Vegaskeith]

Dude! Update! Did you sell it already?

 

[RiverDave]

Bump..

RD

 

[farmo83]

View attachment 592189

I considered pulling this pic and starting a thread in the gel section.

I guess you can move it there if you want?

The haze we see in the corner below the rail is where a repair has been done in the past. From the looks of it many years ago.

This is why in the past I have said I'd never advise someone to order a new boat with a front/rear cap job.
That cap is a repair. It will be he first place the boat starts showing its age.
Doesn't matter what you do, how puss you keep it, wax it every day if you like, eventually it will look like that.

I tell people that, and some don't care. "It looks cool" and fuck it, they won't own it when it starts looking like that. It'll be some else's problem.

As to the yellowing white. It's sort of a period problem. The late 90s early 2000s is when the gel mfgs were tinkering with formulas to meet AQMD standards.
It should sand out, but expect it to come back in a year or two. Maybe three knowing you garage your stuff and keep it waxed well.
The question is, how many times has it already been done?
I think you see where I'm going with that.
.

Not trying to hijack in the least but why does the cap job make it show age ?

 

[Gelcoater]

Not trying to hijack in the least but why does the cap job make it show age ?

Not the cap job. The transition between cap job gel and original out of the mold gel.
That's the usual spot that shows first.
There are other occasions where the clear will turn a bit milky on the repair area.

 

[RiverDave]

So I am the worst with updating my own threads.. in my own defense I usually have to use my own vehicles for boat shows etc for rdp so I spend my days going over that kinda stuff with members in person.. lol.

That said I figured I’d update this thread a bit and as I go through my phone and find more pics I’ll add them.

so on the gel front I had Pedro “clean it up” once for me shortly after this and eventually the white came back.. recently I said screw it and had him spray the entire top side of the boat once and for all so I wouldn’t have to keep messing with it. Long story short gel issue is solved permanently. He also repelled the entire swim step so it is brand new.

Bare in mind the "gel issues" it was having wouldn't bother 95% of the people out there.. but it bothered me, and after kinda 1/2 way fixing it once I decided to just "FIX IT" and be done with it.



Here it is Down at Pedro’s starting to get prepped.

 

[RiverDave]

Just about every nick or blemish on the entire boat was fixed. He dropped it off in my driveway and these were some pics I took when I got home.

 

[RiverDave]

Garage lights tell no lies.. boat is a 9 / 10 now..

Now it’s a shiny new dime piece.

You will also see I ditched the teak awhile back and added the gator step in the swim step. I can’t tell you what an improvement this is..

 

[RiverDave]

You remember that old shitty stereo in post #2? And all that horrible wiring? All gone..

All the wiring in the front of the engine bay was cleaned up (I’ll take some pics of that tomorrow), most of it was from the old stereo.. Installed 4 big full river batteries (stereo bangs all weekend long) in billet Grp boxes..

The subs that were across the front of the back seat? Gone.. now there are 4 12’s down firing and the bass comes out of this port in the front of it.

You will see two kicker 8’s on the outsides as well.. note the white light is all new led lighting installed throughout (even in the engine bay)

Where there is another two 8’s hiding for party time.. lol. All new big breakers Installed and perkos resided correctly and cleaned up.

Also put lights in the side panel pockets and under the seats

those are your “map” lights or white lights to see what you are doing..

In this pic if you look on the drivers side on the wall you will see the new amp rack for the stereo which we will start getting into momentarily. When you see that in person it looks like one giant amp but it is four in a row and then one hidden (ran out of space)

 

[RiverDave]

Turn the white lights off and turn the mood lights on and your classy old man Hallett turns into a love den featuring “French whore house red.” Believe me it’s harder to get the exact shade of red to be whorehouse Than you’d think.. lol.

Note you can’t see that strip under the back seat when you are in the boat.. it’s because the camera pic was taken from a low angle. I’m big in things being “indirect” as much as possible.

A big thing for me was to carry the theme all the way up to the bow (bedroom) so wired for sound created chair rails that run the distance to hide the leds.. (no other Hallett will have that)

In this pic both sets of lights are on which is why you can see some white up in the shelf and in the cockpit.

 

[RiverDave]

If you scroll back to page one you will remember the god awful white cabinets..

We ended up taking them out and they weren’t quite the quality of what we wanted.. neither was the cooler to be honest.
Saw tooth rebuilt the whole cooler and actually insulated it (wasn’t from the factory) and actually hooked up the drain correctly (wasn’t from the factory) then made custom butcher block counter tops for both with teal chair rails for the tops.. (I’ll take some better pics tomorrow and add them).

Jed O made me a nice butcher block cooler top that doubles as a serving tray and something you can cut limes on or sandwich stuff etc!

We also ditched the white and went with a grey to match the interior.

While we were in there we also added cell phone and I pad charging stations along with a digital volt meter.

(Add more pics tomorrow)

 

[RiverDave]

Up in the very front we added a TV / DVD player for the kids

The speakers down below are independent of the ones outside so the kids can watch their movie and close the door, and the adults can listen to their own music.

 

[28Eliminator]

You say you had the top "re-sprayed". Are you talking about all the colors, or did he just spray new clear?

Boat looks great BTW!!

 

[Riverryder]

Why in the hell would you ever sell this thing! This thing is amazing! Holy grail is the correct name for this boat!

 

[RiverDave]

You say you had the top "re-sprayed". Are you talking about all the colors, or did he just spray new clear?

Boat looks great BTW!!

The boat had gel repairs from the factory and being 22 years old the clear had failed and had been “burned through” in a few areas. The red also has some problem areas..

I was out of town most the time Pedro had it but from what I understand they just sanded all the clear off and resprayed the red on that whole top side of the boat.

Whatever the problems were they are all gone now.. boat looks new all the way around. They fixed every little Nick / scratch / blemish there was.

 

[FROGMAN524]

I saw it over there when I was talking to him two last week

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[LargeOrangeFont]

Looks like it came out really nice.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Damn Dave really did this boat justice...."BADDEST MO-FO ON THE WATER!!!"

 

[FROGMAN524]

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[Jay Dub]

I believe RD's boat is on Horizon's page as well. Really nice looking boat!
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