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This truck is local to me. I just put tires on it. Told him I would buy it But he took it to this place while I was on vacation. They decided the price. Don’t think that truck was 45k brand new.
 

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This truck is local to me. I just put tires on it. Told him I would buy it But he took it to this place while I was on vacation. They decided the price. Don’t think that truck was 45k brand new.
It wasn't.
 

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My father in law has a 2000 longbed ext cab 7.3 F250 he bought new, now has about 100k miles on it. I told him to sell it (he likes my new Ram) and get the crazy money they are going for right now. He's keeping it, smart man.
 

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These trucks aren’t unicorns or holy grails. There’s a literal rolling shit ton of them out there. I worked on these trucks throughout my 20s and I was just starting out when the last 7.3 trucks were coming onto the dealer lots. I remember the 03 platinum edition trucks coming in off the transport truck. They were awesome! I loved doing pre delivery inspections on them. I’m a die hard Ford guy, however, the 7.3 is extremely antiquated by today’s standards and the 4R100 is beyond antiquated. They were great trucks and they had a great run. They were not almighty bulletproof like the internet and YouTube would lead you to believe. The guys that think they are are the ones that bring them into the shop with compression so low it takes a whole can of ether to get them started, the turbos have been eating dirt for years and there’s so much blow by you need to add oil daily. When you give them an estimate for a new engine they always reply with… but it’s a 7.3! Even the mighty 7.3 requires maintenance…

I now have a 6.2 gas engine F-350 that literally makes more horsepower and just as much torque as the first gen 7.3 power strokes. It has a 6 speed 6R140 trans that does a better job of keeping that engine in the torque curve. It literally pulls better than every 7.3 I’ve ever owned and I drive it around with 37s occasionally pulling a 40ft 5th wheel. I’ve owned 4 7.3 trucks a 96, 2 97s and an 03 model with 525 pound feet of torque. My dad bought the 03 and put a couple hundred thousand on the clock. I’d still take my 6.2 2017 model over all my old trucks. Don’t get me wrong, I love those trucks, but similar to the LS fan boy thread, 7.3 fanboys make me hate them.
 

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I would be ready to jump on it if I was in the market as soon as I saw that feature it had listed TRIPMETER
 

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These trucks aren’t unicorns or holy grails. There’s a literal rolling shit ton of them out there. I worked on these trucks throughout my 20s and I was just starting out when the last 7.3 trucks were coming onto the dealer lots. I remember the 03 platinum edition trucks coming in off the transport truck. They were awesome! I loved doing pre delivery inspections on them. I’m a die hard Ford guy, however, the 7.3 is extremely antiquated by today’s standards and the 4R100 is beyond antiquated. They were great trucks and they had a great run. They were not almighty bulletproof like the internet and YouTube would lead you to believe. The guys that think they are are the ones that bring them into the shop with compression so low it takes a whole can of ether to get them started, the turbos have been eating dirt for years and there’s so much blow by you need to add oil daily. When you give them an estimate for a new engine they always reply with… but it’s a 7.3! Even the mighty 7.3 requires maintenance…

I now have a 6.2 gas engine F-350 that literally makes more horsepower and just as much torque as the first gen 7.3 power strokes. It has a 6 speed 6R140 trans that does a better job of keeping that engine in the torque curve. It literally pulls better than every 7.3 I’ve ever owned and I drive it around with 37s occasionally pulling a 40ft 5th wheel. I’ve owned 4 7.3 trucks a 96, 2 97s and an 03 model with 525 pound feet of torque. My dad bought the 03 and put a couple hundred thousand on the clock. I’d still take my 6.2 2017 model over all my old trucks. Don’t get me wrong, I love those trucks, but similar to the LS fan boy thread, 7.3 fanboys make me hate them.
Your logic doesn’t work here. It’s RDP the diesel is always better than gas even if it’s old lol
 

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I wouldn't buy from this dude if you told him you would and he takes it to a broker before you said you were going to have to pass. Kind of a crappy move in my eyes.

But to each their own
 

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Ok, I get it is clean and low mile, but couldn’t you buy one for under $20k and just refurb the thing? Parts are plentiful and cheap for these things.

Just asking the question. Here is one with 193k miles for $16k. Go through suspension, drivetrain and interior.. what you are at $25-$28 all in?

 
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My 2001 just like this one went 280k with no issues. It’s gone now and I wouldn’t want it back.

Low mileage truck with 20 year old paint, interior, seals, gaskets and parts. What could possibly go wrong with it?

New it was a 36k truck out the door.
 

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I’ve said it before here and I loved my 7.3 but it was anemic as all hell compared to my 6.7 or any other modern diesel.

I wouldn’t pay anywhere near $40k for that truck but it’ll sell. Cool truck nevertheless.
I'll agree with you there. With today's diesels putting up quadruple digit torque numbers it's not even a comparison at this point. I guess I've invested so much time into learning how to not EGT 7.3 through the roof while towing & figuring out the quirks that I don't want to move onto something else just yet.
The 6.7 has so far proven to be Ford's next good diesel after the 7.3 soon there will be 6.7 fanboys 3 motors from now 😁😁
 

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WTF??? 40k for anything in 2001 is ridiculous!!! It would take 8k to make that wagon look decent. Hard pass.
Agree!! I think 25 all day…. 28 if you really really want it.

still crazy, but that’s a fraction of a used 2018 diesel of any make.
 

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I towed a boat across the country with a dually 7.3. What a slug, my ram ecodiesel pulled harder. I didn’t then and still don’t understand all the hype surrounding them. Any new diesel, v6 included, has more power.
 

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It’s not about the power but more so the reliability and how easy the problems can be fixed. Most of the common issues could be fixed on the side of the road if you had any mechanical skill. If someone was buying one today the first thing i would recommend is a trans rebuild or replacement just to get that out of the way.

Having said that......i bought a 6.7 truck, had it deleted, and never looked back. Had them both for a couple months and ended up selling the 7.3 truck a year ago for almost twice what i paid for it.


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I had a 2000 F250 7.3 TD SB supercab.
Paid $33k brand new.
They gave me $5k when "She" took it from me and traded in on her 2017 Escape.
Bottom 3-4" of the entire perimeter were gone. Rust.
Ran like new. 140k miles.
 

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I'll agree with you there. With today's diesels putting up quadruple digit torque numbers it's not even a comparison at this point. I guess I've invested so much time into learning how to not EGT 7.3 through the roof while towing & figuring out the quirks that I don't want to move onto something else just yet.
The 6.7 has so far proven to be Ford's next good diesel after the 7.3 soon there will be 6.7 fanboys 3 motors from now [emoji16][emoji16]

Lmao, thats is one thing i don’t miss. Planning the approach for the next grade and feeling like i’m commanding a space shuttle looking at all the gauges.

I had an spe trans in my dually and it was the best money spent on that truck!


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If there was a holy grail wouldn’t it be the 2002-2003.5 when the f250 tow rating went up to 12,500? The 2001 is 10,000 according to what I am looking at online. Of course, it’s an old 3/4 ton so I realize it can safely tow up the the max 26k with a standard endorsement regardless of ratings…
 

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If there was a holy grail wouldn’t it be the 2002-2003.5 when the f250 tow rating went up to 12,500? The 2001 is 10,000 according to what I am looking at online. Of course, it’s an old 3/4 ton so I realize it can safely tow up the the max 26k with a standard endorsement regardless of ratings…

Exactly. But a new F150 can’t tow 10,000 lbs. the rating are lies after all.
 

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I love the 7.3, but the newer trucks are just so much more comfortable and handle so much better. Drive my 2018 Ram Dually home at 90 mph from the river last week, got 17mpg with no mods, felt comfortable like I was doing 65mph and was at a tad over 2000rpms. You just can’t do that in an old 7.3. Anything over 70mph and you feel you need to let off and the cab is loud as hell.
 

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If you paid 45k for that truck and drove it 3 years… it would just blend into the pack of millions of 7.3L trucks. You would lose 25 grand fast.

BTW I think the 7.3l was a huge success for and anyone who has one is sitting on a great legacy truck they can use appropriately for as long as they choose to maintain it.
 

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An older 7.3 makes a great farm/ranch vehicle. It’s not 90k so not worrying about getting it dirty. Your not hauling ass. Not hauling heavy loads long periods of time.
 

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Lmao, thats is one thing i don’t miss. Planning the approach for the next grade and feeling like i’m commanding a space shuttle looking at all the gauges.

I had an spe trans in my dually and it was the best money spent on that truck!


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Geez that's it right there..... Like commanding the space shuttle LMAO.
 

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I love the 7.3, but the newer trucks are just so much more comfortable and handle so much better. Drive my 2018 Ram Dually home at 90 mph from the river last week, got 17mpg with no mods, felt comfortable like I was doing 65mph and was at a tad over 2000rpms. You just can’t do that in an old 7.3. Anything over 70mph and you feel you need to let off and the cab is loud as hell.

I tow at 80 with mine all the time...

Of course I have a gear vendors and a few other mods.

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The new trucks are unreal though. Went for a ride in a friend's Platinum edition, and it was more like a Lexus than a truck.

I don't have a spare 100k though. So I'll just keep what I have. 😊
 

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These were awesome trucks in their day but they don’t hold their own anymore. When you can buy a new one that has 1000 ft lbs of torque the difference is night and day. Cool truck and low miles but every rubber piece is 20 years old too. When I head to the river in 120 degrees I want all the peace of mind I can.
 

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I have a love hate relationship with my 7,3.

It's had the Buckzooka fired off at it a few times over the last 18 years I've had it.. It sees weekly tow duties under 8k and does great at that weight.. Sucks some fuel though.. When I tug my loaded 13k toy hauler to Glamis once a year I rent a new truck now days.
Would love a new 6.7 but im not shelling out the crazy money they are asking right now. Plus I'm not leaving a new truck parked outside.
It's totally like commanding the space shuttle loaded down. 😆
 

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That's a lot of money but some rust belt guy that has no emotional attachment to money will buy it. For 1995 technology they are good trucks and many are still on the road today and even made the transfer to a whole new redesigned truck, The Superduty. Can't say that about the other diesels from 1995.
They will satisfy the needs of 90% of the truck owners out there with minimal repair cost. Compared to new trucks they don't compete. But what 26 year old technology still keeps up with today's technology? They still perform very well for their age and a good entry level rig for the used market.
 
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I have a 2002 7.3 wit 146k and can't imagine paying that price for that old of a truck. I believe I bought mine in 2005 with 52k for 25k. My truck has been super reliable for its age and technology. I'll say I'd love to get into the new Superduty or Ram they ride really nice and have a shit ton of power compared to these older models but the price tag is to steep for me. So I keep driving old reliable and throwing money at it.
 

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If there was a holy grail wouldn’t it be the 2002-2003.5 when the f250 tow rating went up to 12,500? The 2001 is 10,000 according to what I am looking at online. Of course, it’s an old 3/4 ton so I realize it can safely tow up the the max 26k with a standard endorsement regardless of ratings…

The tow rating went up because of the bolts on the hitch. I paid $50 for a new hitch (Excursion) and the bolts from a guy that worked for Ford but decided to go in a different direction. IMO "The Holy Grail" would be up to the 2000 year model and some of the early 2001 which have forged internals.

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Had a new 97' ($35,750 ish otd ) and also custom ordered an early year 01' for $41,500 otd , both 350 crew, long bed 4x4. Picked up the 01' down at Galpin after a couple hours at the Candy Cat Too catching up w high school buddies and got pulled over 2 miles from home 200 miles away before even setting the clock on it at 1:45 a.m. which was another story, but it was a great truck. Nothing compared to a new one though. My 97' was the first truck you could pull Needles grade towing 5k lbs. at 70 mph and the temp didn't move, which I think was the start of the whole holy grail reputation. The 97' needed a trans at 50k miles though using tow haul mode lol.
 

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I've got a 2015 I'd sell for 55-60K.
 

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My old 7.3 Ex with 8" lift on 37's ran it for 200k miles only had to replace the front wheel bearings a few times. Loved that thing, plenty of room in the back for "activities" on the way to the river

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