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With all the volatility, costs increases, shortages, inflation, etc. what's your thoughts on the best way to increase your wealth in these times? Both long term and short term.
 

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Inflation is the great wealth killer. Put your assets into investments that trend well with inflationary tides and you will be good! Currently I have had the largest portion of my $$$ in real estate, mutual funds, and Deck Boats, lol 😂. If you have bonds drop them like a bad transmission! The Fed is claiming that the current inflation we’re seeing is only transitory but I am betting on this being a long term swing with Socialists in the White House printing money with no end in sight and proposing spending $10 Trillion in 2021 with only $3 Trillion in Annual Tax Revenue. This kind of reckless spending historically always leads to hyper-inflation!
 

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Trying to shake the fear of missing out over here. Avoiding the urge to buy real estate or other over priced assets with cash or credit. I know cash is trash! I will take the inflation hit. Something tells me cash will be back in favor soon when everyone is tapped out on debt.
 
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With all the volatility, costs increases, shortages, inflation, etc. what's your thoughts on the best way to increase your wealth in these times? Both long term and short term.

I know a guy that bought a building a year ago for 430’s.. Owner carried the building so he was making payments. He just sold the building for 900’ish.. not a bad way to put 50k out and net 500 return.. lol

i hear about shit like that and think I’m a fucking idiot.. why didn’t I do that.
 

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Appreciable assets.

I wish I was in a position to be able get my hands on some property because I would. The fact is, .gov won't let property and housing fail again because that's what bolsters the dollar today. Property typically ages well in terms of value too. Best to buy something just outside of a metro area, it will appreciate/be insulated the most.

As for me, hotrods are currently good appreciable assets and will continue to do so short of an economic collapse. Trucks and boats too so long as you buy slightly used. I have been selling, trading, and parting out a bunch of my boats this year. I've sold the parts off of my Larson for 3x what I paid for it and I still have the trailer, transom assembly, and engine.

I've also been "protecting" my credit lines since the election and have put some money into a fairly stabil investment account which is currently performing at 16%, no doubt mostly due to inflation.

Thats about all you can do

My $0.02
 

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Gold to preserve. Real estate with a big fat loan with other peoples money to win. What’s the worst? Lose your down and walk away? In inflation...that works
 

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What companies are raking in profits?

I see the Home Improvement sector killing it.
I would assume the lumber companies will do well for a few quarters too.

What companies were overly beat down?
Cruise Lines, air lines, Hotels. Restaurants.
As things recover they should all recover nicely.

These might be good sectors to look in.
 

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I know a guy that bought a building a year ago for 430’s.. Owner carried the building so he was making payments. He just sold the building for 900’ish.. not a bad way to put 50k out and net 500 return.. lol

i hear about shit like that and think I’m a fucking idiot.. why didn’t I do that.

You know an advertiser on this forum actually sells real estate! :)
 

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Appreciable assets.

I wish I was in a position to be able get my hands on some property because I would. The fact is, .gov won't let property and housing fail again because that's what bolsters the dollar today. Property typically ages well in terms of value too. Best to buy something just outside of a metro area, it will appreciate/be insulated the most.

As for me, hotrods are currently good appreciable assets and will continue to do so short of an economic collapse. Trucks and boats too so long as you buy slightly used. I have been selling, trading, and parting out a bunch of my boats this year. I've sold the parts off of my Larson for 3x what I paid for it and I still have the trailer, transom assembly, and engine.

I've also been "protecting" my credit lines since the election and have put some money into a fairly stabil investment account which is currently performing at 16%, no doubt mostly due to inflation.

Thats about all you can do

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16% over what period of time? Would like to know more about this.........
 

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I got lucky and fell into another house from a buddy of mine. Almost a Half acre and a eight car garage with a small older house. I paid 700k for it in January. One down the street they just re did on a smaller lot just sold for 1.25 mil. Right place right time. I too am trying to figure out what to do and where to put money for safety. Just bought a couple more classic convertibles as they will always be worth money.
 

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16% over what period of time? Would like to know more about this.........

16% over a period of 2 years using Acorns. I put about $400/mo into it and also made a couple larger transfers. Im not getting rich, but I've made some pretty handsome gains running a moderate portfolio. I also have a SEP IRA that compounds every 90 days but it is performing like shit at the moment
 

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At this point and time I'm thinking about selling off stuff I don't need for top dollar and just sitting tight for a while. When my 6 year old truck is worth more than what I paid for it new something has to give.
 

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What happened to buy low and sell high? Everything is so over priced now and I can't believe stuff is selling as fast as it is. People are doing it backwards, buy high and sell low. Seems like mid 2000's minus custom choppers and grilles for vehicles. There has to be a sale at some point and that's when to buy. I wish I had a crystal ball.
 

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It’s easy to make money in the good times but hard to accumulate wealth. On the flip side, in down times it’s easier to accumulate wealth IF you have the money.

it hurts to watch your money be worth less every day, but save your money now (unless a truly amazing opportunity comes your way), there will be a correction at some point. Be prepared to capitalize on it.
 

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What companies are raking in profits?

I see the Home Improvement sector killing it.
I would assume the lumber companies will do well for a few quarters too.

What companies were overly beat down?
Cruise Lines, air lines, Hotels. Restaurants.
As things recover they should all recover nicely.

These might be good sectors to look in.
Companies that have a significant amount of cash flow will almost always survive these kinds of economic downturns


Thats why im a boring DRIP investor lol
See:

 

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The fucking spot price though lol

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.........wait till the everything bubble pops and inflation hits hard

and OMG, its going up is usually a sign to buy with anything else

silver will outpace gold........



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.........wait till the everything bubble pops and inflation hits hard

and OMG, its going up is usually a sign to buy with anything else

Gold out performs the market ?

can you explain ?
 

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Companies that have a significant amount of cash flow will almost always survive these kinds of economic downturns


Thats why im a boring DRIP investor lol
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GUSH right at its 52 week high.
 

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With all the volatility, costs increases, shortages, inflation, etc. what's your thoughts on the best way to increase your wealth in these times? Both long term and short term.

Invest in real estate that has very low or no debt. Invest in the american stock market. Buy and hold both for the long term. If those fail and go to zero there is NOTHING that will hold value other than Food, Water, Ammo , guns, booze, batteries, fuel etc.

If we end up in some " Book of Eli " Dystopia then your investments are irrelevant. Don't try and time the markets just play the long game. Short term ? Work
 

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What companies are raking in profits?

I see the Home Improvement sector killing it.
I would assume the lumber companies will do well for a few quarters too.

Too late.
Lumber futures are starting to tank.
 

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What happened to buy low and sell high? Everything is so over priced now and I can't believe stuff is selling as fast as it is. People are doing it backwards, buy high and sell low. Seems like mid 2000's minus custom choppers and grilles for vehicles. There has to be a sale at some point and that's when to buy. I wish I had a crystal ball.

We are coming out of a year long pandemic. People don’t care, they want to live their lives. That is more than half the reason there are shortages and price increases.
 
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Gold out performs the market ?

can you explain ?


Gold out performs the market ?

can you explain ?
djia 2000=11460 high.....now 35000=3.05X
gold 2000=308 high...now 1906=6.18x

and it hasnt even hit the gas pedal yet with dollar collapse....more spending please!.......wag your finger all you want, but remember i told you
and remember, only buy phys , if you cant put it on the ground and draw a circle around it, you just own paper............good for the next time tp goes extinct
 
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@badgas fact checking, apparently..........no worries, financial media doesnt want anyone to know......gold purchases bad for the dollar confidence
what are they going to do when the new rules start from the BIS
Basel 3 rules will wreck gold price suppression, LBMA warns Bank of England – Silver Doctors

June 28: Bank for International Settlements Caves In to Russia and China | SGT Report

London Insiders Fear New Rules May Impede Gold & Silver Price Suppression – Investment Watch (investmentwatchblog.com)
uh oh...........cant just print paper contracts for gold you dont own, the price manipulation will be over........

without paper manipulation that is cover for falling currency rates due to fiat printing, gold and silver will soar.........remember people, i told you.....in the reset, all is going to be leveled. no more manipulation..........but that will be the least of the worries

for those who dont know, the BIS is the central bank for central banks..........the BIS(the real owners of us)
Bank for International Settlements - Wikipedia
 
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Cash, gold, silver, real estate and oil and gas royalties. That’s what I got and what I am holding on to….


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don't forget jr mining stocks........when people see the precious metal bull they'll get gobbled and prices will go☝ ........newp has largest silver mine find of all juniors
NEWP and KNTNF and VITFF and WHGDF....... 25% since a year ago avg

silver will be the rocket over gold........
 
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djia 2000=11460 high.....now 35000=3.05X
gold 2000=308 high...now 1906=6.18x

That is one example and one glimpse.

Run that same example from 1990 to now.

As stated earlier i'm playing the long game. Real estate and the stock market ( which includes mining companies) is where I invest.
 

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That is one example and one glimpse.

Run that same example from 1990 to now.

As stated earlier i'm playing the long game. Real estate and the stock market ( which includes mining companies) is where I invest.


lol.....you were being a gotcha guy and got exposed with facts, but for the sake of argument..........maybe you were misquoted?
where is your long term long game quote?......
Gold out performs the market ?

can you explain ?

let me rephrase my hypothesis........in a time we are in right now, ie, massive printing, the last 20 years, gold is outperforming the market............jesus dude

admit it, you didn't know.........it is ok, most do not
 
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and as i stated before, i believe silver will outperform gold in this next run...........by multiples.......just a hunch, but remember, i told you
 

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To answer to OP’s original question.......

You guys will probably think this idea is insane, but I am going to throw it out there anyway.

I truly believe that there are going to be a huge amount of people that are forced to live in their cars. A business that modifies old vans and other type vehicles, with the bare essentials, could be a possibility. No need for beauty..... just functional. There are a couple of brothers in Australia doing this, and they have more business than they know what to do with. I have not seen Nomadland, but I am guessing the movie is about this crowd. I also saw a documentary about a parking lot in San Diego, in which people live in their cars. The rules at the parking lot is something to the effect of, gate closes at 9 Pm, cars must be out by 7 or 8 in the morning, and there is a restroom bldg on site. Most of these people actually have jobs, they just can’t afford rent. As sad as it sounds, this is the future for a lot of people.

Not that I will ever need this service....... but if I did, I would want my vehicle to “not” look like I am living in it. Let’s call that the Stealth model. Normal looking vehicle by day....... comfortable sleeper by night. Mans gotta have some dignity! Lol
 

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To answer to OP’s original question.......

You guys will probably think this idea is insane, but I am going to throw it out there anyway.

I truly believe that there are going to be a huge amount of people that are forced to live in their cars. A business that modifies old vans and other type vehicles, with the bare essentials, could be a possibility. No need for beauty..... just functional. There are a couple of brothers in Australia doing this, and they have more business than they know what to do with. I have not seen Nomadland, but I am guessing the movie is about this crowd. I also saw a documentary about a parking lot in San Diego, in which people live in their cars. The rules at the parking lot is something to the effect of, gate closes at 9 Pm, cars must be out by 7 or 8 in the morning, and there is a restroom bldg on site. Most of these people actually have jobs, they just can’t afford rent. As sad as it sounds, this is the future for a lot of people.

Not that I will ever need this service....... but if I did, I would want my vehicle to “not” look like I am living in it. Let’s call that the Stealth model. Normal looking vehicle by day....... comfortable sleeper by night. Mans gotta have some dignity! Lol

Yeah

The whole " van life " thing has been pretty popular the last 5-6 years. Look into ram promasters, ford transit and mercedes sprinters. They are really pricey. The Class B ( camper van ) RV sector has blown up to say the least. $100K+ all day long for a winnebago travato type van.

To build your own the vans are hard to come by because Amazon buys them by the thousands
 

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To answer to OP’s original question.......

You guys will probably think this idea is insane, but I am going to throw it out there anyway.

I truly believe that there are going to be a huge amount of people that are forced to live in their cars. A business that modifies old vans and other type vehicles, with the bare essentials, could be a possibility. No need for beauty..... just functional. There are a couple of brothers in Australia doing this, and they have more business than they know what to do with. I have not seen Nomadland, but I am guessing the movie is about this crowd. I also saw a documentary about a parking lot in San Diego, in which people live in their cars. The rules at the parking lot is something to the effect of, gate closes at 9 Pm, cars must be out by 7 or 8 in the morning, and there is a restroom bldg on site. Most of these people actually have jobs, they just can’t afford rent. As sad as it sounds, this is the future for a lot of people.

Not that I will ever need this service....... but if I did, I would want my vehicle to “not” look like I am living in it. Let’s call that the Stealth model. Normal looking vehicle by day....... comfortable sleeper by night. Mans gotta have some dignity! Lol
i understand the sentiment, but if someone is homeless or close, where they get the money for the van conversion?..........most wait till the last poss moment to be homeless..........i mean, prosperity is always just around the corner in americans eyes, dont think actual homelessness happens............till it happens .....then it is too late, they look for help, which isn't there.......unless you are certain part of society that does not include you.......
 
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To answer to OP’s original question.......

You guys will probably think this idea is insane, but I am going to throw it out there anyway.

I truly believe that there are going to be a huge amount of people that are forced to live in their cars. A business that modifies old vans and other type vehicles, with the bare essentials, could be a possibility. No need for beauty..... just functional. There are a couple of brothers in Australia doing this, and they have more business than they know what to do with. I have not seen Nomadland, but I am guessing the movie is about this crowd. I also saw a documentary about a parking lot in San Diego, in which people live in their cars. The rules at the parking lot is something to the effect of, gate closes at 9 Pm, cars must be out by 7 or 8 in the morning, and there is a restroom bldg on site. Most of these people actually have jobs, they just can’t afford rent. As sad as it sounds, this is the future for a lot of people.

Not that I will ever need this service....... but if I did, I would want my vehicle to “not” look like I am living in it. Let’s call that the Stealth model. Normal looking vehicle by day....... comfortable sleeper by night. Mans gotta have some dignity! Lol
I can visualize people giving up houses before cars. Lot of debt floating around with high mortgage and rent payments. Throw in utilities that go up every year and some food inflation. It’s not hard to imagine more people living in vehicles.

Purchase an old work van, 5 gallon bucket, pump sink, makeshift bed and a small generator. Park it at the beach and save thousands monthly on housing alone. 😁
 

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I can visualize people giving up houses before cars. Lot of debt floating around with high mortgage and rent payments. Throw in utilities that go up every year and some food inflation. It’s not hard to imagine more people living in vehicles.

Purchase an old work van, 5 gallon bucket, pump sink, makeshift bed and a small generator. Park it at the beach and save thousands monthly on housing alone. 😁




Retirement plan idea !

You could get a nice $50K-$60 RV and $290 annual pass to Bolsa chica state beach day use. The park is open from 6:00 am to 10:00 pm and provides water and dump access. When the park closes if you cant find a place to boondock go drive 25 minutes to Hawaiin Gardens Casino. Parking lot is well lit and has armed security. Free parking and free coffee the next morning. Wash wrinse repeat. Does not sound like a dream life but you will parked 100 yards from 3 million dollar houses all day long. Much better plan than living in Palmdale in a trailer.
 

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The fucking spot price though lol

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Let me see if I can provide some insight into the current pricing of precious metals and the "ask over" pricing.

There are three components that make up the price you pay as a consumer when purchasing physical metals.

1. Spot Price
2. Wholesale Premium
3. Dealer Markup.

ALL Precious metals dealers buy at Spot + Wholesale Premium. No dealer buys physical metals at spot price - this is often misunderstood.

In years past the wholesale premiums were low so the price over spot that a consumer paid was low.

In today's market the wholesale premiums ( cost dealers buy over spot) has experienced exponential price increases just like everything else these days. As an example Dealer Cost on a 1oz Silver American Eagle coin was + $3.65 over spot four months ago. Today DEALER COST is +9.95 over spot for the same coin. The wholesale secondary market is driven by supply and demand. Currently there is exponential demand relative to supply.

In a normal market, physical precious metals are not an asset class to consider with less than a 5 year time-horizon. When you buy a physical asset there is a "normal" time that you should plan to hold the asset in order to "clear your spread". Clearing your spread is the time it takes for the spot market to increase in price beyond the price you paid for your metals.

Inflation is not a normal market condition and will likely serve to shorten the time it takes to clear your spread even considering the increased cost to acquire physical metals.
 

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Let me see if I can provide some insight into the current pricing of precious metals and the "ask over" pricing.

There are three components that make up the price you pay as a consumer when purchasing physical metals.

1. Spot Price
2. Wholesale Premium
3. Dealer Markup.

ALL Precious metals dealers buy at Spot + Wholesale Premium. No dealer buys physical metals at spot price - this is often misunderstood.

In years past the wholesale premiums were low so the price over spot that a consumer paid was low.

In today's market the wholesale premiums ( cost dealers buy over spot) has experienced exponential price increases just like everything else these days. As an example Dealer Cost on a 1oz Silver American Eagle coin was + $3.65 over spot four months ago. Today DEALER COST is +9.95 over spot for the same coin. The wholesale secondary market is driven by supply and demand. Currently there is exponential demand relative to supply.

In a normal market, physical precious metals are not an asset class to consider with less than a 5 year time-horizon. When you buy a physical asset there is a "normal" time that you should plan to hold the asset in order to "clear your spread". Clearing your spread is the time it takes for the spot market to increase in price beyond the price you paid for your metals.

Inflation is not a normal market condition and will likely serve to shorten the time it takes to clear your spread even considering the increased cost to acquire physical metals.

Appreciate the insight, pretty sure you’re in the industry? My FIL is a very big precious metal guy (silver mostly). He’s been telling me to buy since 2008 lol.

Silver eagle is roughly $25? Plus the dealer costs call it $35 OTD? You’re starting at a loss of 36%.

I don’t mean to talk down on gold/silver because I think they are a good investment. But do you think today that’s where you should put your money?

Always love the perspectives of RDP.

Edit: I’m comparing to real estate, plywood, etc [emoji16]


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Retirement plan idea !

You could get a nice $50K-$60 RV and $290 annual pass to Bolsa chica state beach day use. The park is open from 6:00 am to 10:00 pm and provides water and dump access. When the park closes if you cant find a place to boondock go drive 25 minutes to Hawaiin Gardens Casino. Parking lot is well lit and has armed security. Free parking and free coffee the next morning. Wash wrinse repeat. Does not sound like a dream life but you will parked 100 yards from 3 million dollar houses all day long. Much better plan than living in Palmdale in a trailer.
Thought about this plan many times, you see the regular 20-30 guys who do this, get up ever morning and surf, take nap, eat a bologna sandwich, the good life. Now days they have at least 2 or 3 bands playing every weekend, might even find a warm bed on occasion to nest in.
 

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Let me see if I can provide some insight into the current pricing of precious metals and the "ask over" pricing.

There are three components that make up the price you pay as a consumer when purchasing physical metals.

1. Spot Price
2. Wholesale Premium
3. Dealer Markup.

ALL Precious metals dealers buy at Spot + Wholesale Premium. No dealer buys physical metals at spot price - this is often misunderstood.

In years past the wholesale premiums were low so the price over spot that a consumer paid was low.

In today's market the wholesale premiums ( cost dealers buy over spot) has experienced exponential price increases just like everything else these days. As an example Dealer Cost on a 1oz Silver American Eagle coin was + $3.65 over spot four months ago. Today DEALER COST is +9.95 over spot for the same coin. The wholesale secondary market is driven by supply and demand. Currently there is exponential demand relative to supply.

In a normal market, physical precious metals are not an asset class to consider with less than a 5 year time-horizon. When you buy a physical asset there is a "normal" time that you should plan to hold the asset in order to "clear your spread". Clearing your spread is the time it takes for the spot market to increase in price beyond the price you paid for your metals.

Inflation is not a normal market condition and will likely serve to shorten the time it takes to clear your spread even considering the increased cost to acquire physical metals.
Is the wholesale premium a per coin or per oz if I buy a 10 oz bar is the premium 9.95 or 99.50 ?
 

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And to be fair there is way more effort making 1,000 eagles vs 1 huge bar


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Once again quick google search. These guys could be scalping you for all I know.

Green monster is 500 ounces of silver

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That safe I found full of silver is paying off for my customer. No wonder he likes me so much :). Bought a house and in the crawl space there was a safe completely full. Coins and bars around 100 lbs was my guess when I helped him unload it.
 
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