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We all know that changes were made immediately before the election to change the nature of our election process

The old rules existed to make things secure and try to make it as fair ass possible. So lets just change the rules at the 11th hour why don’t we to make it less secure!! What could go wrong, right?

Anyway here is my list of things that were changed that should NOT be allowed

1). No ballot harvesting. Some states allow it, some don’t. Should NOT happen either way
2) Allowing votes to be received after close of polls on election day
3) Mailing unsolicited ballots to an unverified list of voters.
4). Not allowing both sides to verify votes and counts


All these items cut to the core of election security.

if the election turns into a shit show we can blame those that made these last minute changes.

(I am leaving off things like fraud, dead people voting that shouldn’t happen because that is nothing new).
 

regor

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We all know that changes were made immediately before the election to change the nature of our election process

The old rules existed to make things secure and try to make it as fair ass possible. So lets just change the rules at the 11th hour why don’t we to make it less secure!! What could go wrong, right?

Anyway here is my list of things that were changed that should NOT be allowed

1). No ballot harvesting. Some states allow it, some don’t. Should NOT happen either way
2) Allowing votes to be received after close of polls on election day
3) Mailing unsolicited ballots to an unverified list of voters.
4). Not allowing both sides to verify votes and counts


All these items cut to the core of election security.

if the election turns into a shit show we can blame those that made these last minute changes.

(I am leaving off things like fraud, dead people voting that shouldn’t happen because that is nothing new).

All true and it was the only way they could win, we landslided their sorry asses!!!!

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Duramax

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Excuse my ignorance, but what is, "ballot harvesting"
 

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Excuse my ignorance, but what is, "ballot harvesting"


Ballot harvesting (collecting) from Wikipedia...

Ballot collecting is the gathering and submitting of completed absentee or mail-in voter ballots by third-party individuals, volunteers or workers, rather than submission by the voters themselves directly to ballot collection sites. It occurs in some areas of the U.S. where voting by mail is common, but some other states have laws restricting it.

Proponents of ballot collection promote it as enfranchising those who live in remote areas or lack ready access to transportation, are incapacitated or in hospital or jail. Critics of ballot collection highlight the possibility of increasing the potential for vote misappropriation or fraud.

By the way, it's LEGAL in Kalifornia
 

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We all know that changes were made immediately before the election to change the nature of our election process

The old rules existed to make things secure and try to make it as fair ass possible. So lets just change the rules at the 11th hour why don’t we to make it less secure!! What could go wrong, right?

Anyway here is my list of things that were changed that should NOT be allowed

1). No ballot harvesting. Some states allow it, some don’t. Should NOT happen either way
2) Allowing votes to be received after close of polls on election day
3) Mailing unsolicited ballots to an unverified list of voters.
4). Not allowing both sides to verify votes and counts


All these items cut to the core of election security.

if the election turns into a shit show we can blame those that made these last minute changes.

(I am leaving off things like fraud, dead people voting that shouldn’t happen because that is nothing new).

1. So who decides this, congress? What happens when the balance of power shifts? Are you suggesting a constitutional amendment that strips away future policy and state's rights?

2. Does this apply to military and oversees voters with citizenship in the US?

3. Is it the mailing process or would it be better if we established a set of criteria requiring rolls to be crosschecked with the DMV, county death certificates etc?

4. Since when is the verification process denied to anyone?
 

Andy B.

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1. So who decides this, congress? What happens when the balance of power shifts? Are you suggesting a constitutional amendment that strips away future policy and state's rights?

2. Does this apply to military and oversees voters with citizenship in the US?

3. Is it the mailing process or would it be better if we established a set of criteria requiring rolls to be crosschecked with the DMV, county death certificates etc?

4. Since when is the verification process denied to anyone?

Simple fix show your LEGAL state issued ID and for absentee go to State DMV and pull up picture of ID pretty much common sense!!! Have a representative from each party verify every process not bullshit poll watchers what a joke!!!! No mail in bullshit there simple fix!!!
 

DaveC

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1) Ballot harvesting is complete bullshit and cheating. Neither party should have access to it. It needs to be outlawed by both the states and the Feds.

2) I think we can make limited exceptions for military or overseas if they can get a postmark. But not a wholesale exceptions for the entire electorate.

3) The mail process that is unverified is the problem. Voter ID or some kind of ID would be a start. I wish we could all agree on someway to reasonably ensure those that cast the ballots are legal to do so. This doesn't need to be a partisan thing. No one is trying to rob anyone of anything.

4) poll watchers were excluded in several states under the guise of social distancing.

Items # 1 & #2 we can discuss all day about exceptions and maybe there are some very limited ones. However to keep things "fair" we just cannot allow them on a wholesale basis because it gives too much incentive to cheat. We need limitations on these items to ensure election integrity. Kind of like the old saying a pad lock helps keep honest people honest.
 

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1) Ballot harvesting is complete bullshit and cheating. Neither party should have access to it. It needs to be outlawed by both the states and the Feds.

2) I think we can make limited exceptions for military or overseas if they can get a postmark. But not a wholesale exceptions for the entire electorate.

3) The mail process that is unverified is the problem. Voter ID or some kind of ID would be a start. I wish we could all agree on someway to reasonably ensure those that cast the ballots are legal to do so. This doesn't need to be a partisan thing. No one is trying to rob anyone of anything.

4) poll watchers were excluded in several states under the guise of social distancing.

Items # 1 & #2 we can discuss all day about exceptions and maybe there are some very limited ones. However to keep things "fair" we just cannot allow them on a wholesale basis because it gives too much incentive to cheat. We need limitations on these items to ensure election integrity. Kind of like the old saying a pad lock helps keep honest people honest.
Shut the fuck up you privileged white cock sucker. Linear logic is some thing of the past. Individual responsibility is a fraud. You were either with us or against us. This colonialization is suspect. The Constitution was written by old racist white man… More than 200 years ago. Get in line or get run over.
 

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Let’s stop all the stupid bullshit. In Iraq you dip your index finger in ink showing that you voted. This is a willful Destruction of our system.
 

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1. So who decides this, congress? What happens when the balance of power shifts? Are you suggesting a constitutional amendment that strips away future policy and state's rights?

2. Does this apply to military and oversees voters with citizenship in the US?

3. Is it the mailing process or would it be better if we established a set of criteria requiring rolls to be crosschecked with the DMV, county death certificates etc?

4. Since when is the verification process denied to anyone?
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Ballot harvesting (collecting) from Wikipedia...

Ballot collecting is the gathering and submitting of completed absentee or mail-in voter ballots by third-party individuals, volunteers or workers, rather than submission by the voters themselves directly to ballot collection sites. It occurs in some areas of the U.S. where voting by mail is common, but some other states have laws restricting it.

Proponents of ballot collection promote it as enfranchising those who live in remote areas or lack ready access to transportation, are incapacitated or in hospital or jail. Critics of ballot collection highlight the possibility of increasing the potential for vote misappropriation or fraud.

By the way, it's LEGAL in Kalifornia
Of course it is.
 

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Look at the Dominion software used in many states, that may be the key to this.
 
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