Howard splash of American Offshore?

[Dalton]

Noticing the older Howard's cats have similar lines to some American offshore models? Are these models well regarded?

 

[plaster dave]

Noticing the older Howard's cats have similar lines to some American offshore models? Are these models well regarded?

I have a 2000 Howard cat. Great boat, very solid. I have heard they are heavier then AO's so that's why they ride better. I can honestly say I can run with bigger boats in the havasu chop with no problem. Howard used the 26' cat as their starting point for there deck boat which everyone knows is a bad motha. If you ask bob Teague he says he loves them.

 

[RiverDave]

Well technically it's a splash of a fire hawk.. Which was a splash of a talon.. The American offshore was a splash of the talon I believe. They are all real similar if not the same.

Dean over at DWB Motorsports has the mold now and this is the last of the Howard cats. I was told by his shop employee that this will be the last one and they are cutting up the deck mold and updating it.

 

[Q4mtxUS]

WOOF....That is a nice looking gel scheme on that cat RD. A question for you. You say "that this is the last of the Howard cats" in your post. Do you know if Mike is tooling a smaller deckboat in the Howard 'skunkwerks', perhaps using a shortened version of the proven Sportdeck/SDS/288 hull?

 

[RiverDave]

I know he's working on a few projects.. I'm not sure if he is doing a small deck or not.. I would prefer to see him making some CC's out if the 28 and 36 bullets!

 

[Chestah Cheetah]

I know he's working on a few projects.. I'm not sure if he is doing a small deck or not.. I would prefer to see him making some CC's out if he 28 and 36 bullets!

This is was my fantasy after I sold my Bullet! A 28 center console with the Bullet bottom! :tbi

 

[Abc123]

Well technically it's a splash of a fire hawk.. Which was a splash of a talon.. The American offshore was a splash of the talon I believe. They are all real similar if not the same.

Dean over at DWB Motorsports has the mold now and this is the last of the Howard cats. I was told by his shop employee that this will be the last one and they are cutting up the deck mold and updating it.

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Noooooo!!!! I love that boat the way it is. Why cut it up? :thumbsdown

 

[Joker]

I like everything about it except for the open bow. Cats imho look so much better all glass in the front. More of a hot rod look in lieu of a family boat you can't use to its full potential since you're worrying about someone flying out up front.

 

[plaster dave]

Well technically it's a splash of a fire hawk.. Which was a splash of a talon.. The American offshore was a splash of the talon I believe. They are all real similar if not the same.

Dean over at DWB Motorsports has the mold now and this is the last of the Howard cats. I was told by his shop employee that this will be the last one and they are cutting up the deck mold and updating it.

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Does he have a price for that one the way it is?

Noooooo!!!! I love that boat the way it is. Why cut it up? :thumbsdown

No not the boat the mold.

I like everything about it except for the open bow. Cats imho look so much better all glass in the front. More of a hot rod look in lieu of a family boat you can't use to its full potential since you're worrying about someone flying out up front.

I agree with you on the look but the older I get the more I want an open bow.

 

[Joker]

Does he have a price for that one the way it is?

No not the boat the mold.

I agree with you on the look but the older I get the more I want an open bow.

Let's trade.[emoji106] I think you'll regret it like Walt did.

 

[plaster dave]

Let's trade.[emoji106] I think you'll regret it like Walt did.

I think once you start climbing over the bow and wiping it down everyday you will get tired of it. Lol

 

[hallett21]

Why would you cut up that mold?? What happens when someone says "hey I want it with the old deck"? Makes me think of Hallett and the 240 vs the 255. There is still a large number of people who prefer the 240 deck. That boat looks badass with that gel!

 

[plaster dave]

Why would you cut up that mold?? What happens when someone says "hey I want it with the old deck"? Makes me think of Hallett and the 240 vs the 255. There is still a large number of people who prefer the 240 deck. That boat looks badass with that gel!

Most people want the newest model out. That's why Howard sold the molds because everyone wanted the deckboat.
I think he's keeping the bottom and putting a windshield on it. I heard this before DS so it might have changed. Btw He's got DCB and Howard's old gel guy working for him.

 

[Runs2rch]

Why would you cut up that mold?? What happens when someone says "hey I want it with the old deck"? Makes me think of Hallett and the 240 vs the 255. There is still a large number of people who prefer the 240 deck. That boat looks badass with that gel!

I agree. To me it seems like builders want the latest out on the water. Talking with Jerry it sounds like he thinks the 24, 27, and 30 look old. Howards and Halletts with good colors that are clean age very well. Our 2004 210 still looks new.

 

[Outdrive1]

The 22 Howard is a 24 Schiada bottom. Along with the Vaugh. Then the bullets were longer versions of that hull from what I was told.

So basically Schiada invented boats. Lol.

 

[BamBam]

The 22 Howard is a 24 Schiada bottom. Along with the Vaugh. Then the bullets were longer versions of that hull from what I was told.

So basically Schiada invented boats. Lol.

The Vaughan is supposedly a little different (i.e. not a direct splash) The bottom was re-worked, but the Howard is a short 24 Schiada. The Hocking is also a copy of that boat.

 

[DLow]

The 22 Howard is a 24 Schiada bottom. Along with the Vaugh. Then the bullets were longer versions of that hull from what I was told.

So basically Schiada invented boats. Lol.

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

 

[twocents]

Not sure how many remember this, but in the early 1970s, Leonard made a one-off custom flat-deck 22 foot Schiada using the blocked-off 24 foot bottom mold. The boat was owned and campaigned quite successfully for a couple of seasons in POPBRA races on the west by the Vogel family (Bill Sr., Billy Jr. and Bobby) from Arcadia. The 22, called Toad Again, was powered by a MerCruiser Racing 482 c.i./475 HP engine and a number three speedmaster drive. The reason the boat had to be a 22-footer was to fit in a specific POPBRA class at that time. Top speed was in the mid-70 mph range.

 

[Dalton]

Thoughts or info?

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/boa/5141723556.html

 

[Outdrive1]

Thoughts or info?

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/boa/5141723556.html

Way over priced with no motor. Imo

 

[Abc123]

Thoughts or info?

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/boa/5141723556.html

It looks beat. Stored outdoors too. He's been trying to sell it for a while (years). Gary had one in his yard for sale a few years ago that was much cleaner and for much less. I wouldn't pay more than $12-14k for that boat.

 

[Abc123]

I like everything about it except for the open bow. Cats imho look so much better all glass in the front. More of a hot rod look in lieu of a family boat you can't use to its full potential since you're worrying about someone flying out up front.

Cutting the bow open on a cat makes about as much sense as a breast reduction.

When I was a kid, we had 19' and 18' jet boats in the river house garage. Both were closed bows that 4 kids and 2 adults squeezed into. Family boats. D


Look. this one didn't even have a swim step!