Hula Trip Thread

[TripleB]

I'll be flying back to cheeseland to drag my boat south, as of now Headless Hula has agreed to help me tow the girl to the Keys.

Then I get to put Hula to work for a while.

Being the expert wood carpenter we will see if the fearless Hula can conquer Ipee wood

Im redoing my front gate with this stuff, Ive been told you can not pound a nail in it and when drilling it, your drill will go dull after 3-4 holes.

We may let up a day or 2 for him to enjoy the weather, but still plenty to do post Irma

For you west coast peeps, Irma was a hurricane that was a direct hit to the Florida Keys

Stay tuned for the Hula adventure that will include a trip to Stainless Marine, I think they make stuff for boats

 

[rivermobster]

Very cool. This should be quite the adventure!

 

[monkeyswrench]

What the hell kind of wood is that?! Just an odd thought, try a small masonry bit for pilots. Started using them for drilling hardened steel. Oldtimer showed me that a few years ago. Not for precision, but cheaper than a milling bit, or a handful of carbides.

 

[WhatExit?]

Had to look it up...

Ipe (spelled ipe and pronounced “ee-pay”), also called Brazilian walnut, is a beautiful exotic wood from South America. Ipe wood structures are hard, strong, and naturally resistant to rot, abrasion, weather, and insects. It is almost twice as dense as most woods and up to five times harder. It is medium to darker brown in color, like a mahogany, so not only lasts a long time but has the beauty of a fine interior wood. If Ipe lumber is allowed to patina, color can be brought back to its original shade with the use a cleaner and brightener. Ipe wood lumber has become a very popular and inexpensive alternative to teak lumber.

Ipe Wood Lumber is used for decking and other outdoor applications like furniture, siding, and fencing. Its has a extremely long life in the outdoors. It can last up to 75 years and will last more than 40years in almost all applications. That is 4-7 times as long as most pressure treated woods. If you want to build something to last for a long time, Ipe is an excellent choice.

Pros:

• Strong
• Hard
• Long lasting
• Smooth
• Ages gracefully
• Naturally fire and rot resistant
• insect resistant

Cons:

• Heavy
• Requires pre-drilling or hidden installation hardware

https://floorcritics.com/common-problems-with-ipe-decking/

 

[Jed-O]

What the hell kind of wood is that?! Just an odd thought, try a small masonry bit for pilots. Started using them for drilling hardened steel. Oldtimer showed me that a few years ago. Not for precision, but cheaper than a milling bit, or a handful of carbides.

The wood is pronounced (eee-pay) it's an exotic, very hard and very expensive. Also very tough to work with.

 

[HNL2LHC]

Pie is a great wood for wet areas. It is costly and will tear up your tools. It is not perfect I was at a house that was having issues becuase the out door kitchen was in the sun and rain. To my surprise it was moving from the first day it was installed.

 

[Headless hula]

The wood is pronounced (eee-pay) it's an exotic, very hard and very expensive. Also very tough to work with.

Pie is a great wood for wet areas. It is costly and will tear up your tools. It is not perfect I was at a house that was having issues becuase the out door kitchen was in the sun and rain. To my surprise it was moving from the first day it was installed.

Bring a stack of saw blades?

 

[snowhammer]

Bring a stack of saw blades?

Diamond blade

 

[snowhammer]

Are you replacing the skirting so you can't see the axles anymore?

 

[HydroSkreamin]

Like a guy at work says, “Next time I get a new house I’m throwing a party...so we can take the wheels off...”

 

[sprintcvx]

Ipe deck we did last year. We went with hidden fasteners so we didn't have to pre drill AND counter sink all the screws. Have a good trip Hula, a little fun in the sun sounds pretty good right now.

 

[Headless hula]

Honestly looking forward to working with this ebay wood. Lolol
I've only heard tripleb talk about it, and what I've read here. From the pics he's sent it looks like I'll have to create a tenon or a rabbit on each face at each end to fit into the gate. I was figuring on using a table saw. Set the fence, set the blade height, have a nice day.....
Damifiknow.

 

[Headless hula]

Are you replacing the skirting so you can't see the axles anymore?

Gotta cut the hitch off the front too. If miki bangs her shin on it one more time.........

 

[sonicss31]

If you need an extra pair of hands let me know. I’ll be down til the 26th. Some tile work to do.

 

[500bbc]

Ipe is very high maintenance.

 

[Headless hula]

Ipe is very high maintenance.

Really?

 

[Headless hula]

After a little research, it seems carbide saw blades will work just fine, as long as they stay clean from pitch deposits.
At least theres a home depot close by.

 

[500bbc]

Really?

Refinish twice a year minimum if you want to retain the deep rich color or just let it grey out.
Finish choice is critical as well, it's so dense nothing penetrates. Each cut needs the end grain prefinished as it's installed, some suppliers disclaim it's use outdoors.

 

[YoPengo]

Stop by for a beer or three.


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[RichL]

Ya think you two can keep the "no ticket" thing going?

 

[Headless hula]

Ya think you two can keep the "no ticket" thing going?

We shall find out soon enough

 

[sprintcvx]

After a little research, it seems carbide saw blades will work just fine, as long as they stay clean from pitch deposits.
At least theres a home depot close by.

It produces a very fine sawdust that can get in and irritate your skin pores. Don't be rubbing your eyes/face with sawdust on your hands. You should coat the end cuts as well, it will last forever

 

[TripleB]

Are you replacing the skirting so you can't see the axles anymore?

Hell yes, even have the color picked out

 

[TripleB]

Ipe is very high maintenance.

The Coney Island Boardwalk is made out of it

Other attributes of ipe wood include:

• It can last more than 25 years outdoors.
• Eco-friendly; 100 percent natural wood
• Mold, fire, weather, and pest-resistant
• Resists surface scratches
• Three times harder than cedar
• One of the densest hardwoods, it sinks in water.
• It has the same fire rating as steel and concrete, making it a more fire-resistant choice than softwoods.
• It has high concentrations of tannic acid, which makes it resistant to rot, insects, and fungi. Because of this, stainless fasteners are recommended.

 

[snowhammer]

Hell yes, even have the color picked out View attachment 717997

That will be real sharp!

 

[nowski]

When I saw Ipee Wood this is the vision I had...

 

[TripleB]

That will be real sharp!

I was also planning on painting the rims with Rustoleum Chrome, to add that touch of class

 

[bbrownster]

If you have ever been to Disney Paradise Pier, you have seen/walked on IPE wood.

 

[TripleB]

California or Florida

 

[sonicss31]

The Coney Island Boardwalk is made out of it

Other attributes of ipe wood include:

• It can last more than 25 years outdoors.
• Eco-friendly; 100 percent natural wood
• Mold, fire, weather, and pest-resistant
• Resists surface scratches
• Three times harder than cedar
• One of the densest hardwoods, it sinks in water.
• It has the same fire rating as steel and concrete, making it a more fire-resistant choice than softwoods.
• It has high concentrations of tannic acid, which makes it resistant to rot, insects, and fungi. Because of this, stainless fasteners are recommended.

Also all of the decking in Key West Oldtown Harbor is built with this wood. Stands up well to puke and spilled alcoholic beverages.

 

[sonicss31]

I have one of these if you need it. The bevel function is a little stiff though.

 

[Headless hula]

View attachment 718022 I have one of these if you need it. The bevel function is a little stiff though.

Thanks Charlie. .I have one also, I planned on tossing in the bed of the dually. That and my table saw.

 

[TripleB]

It produces a very fine sawdust that can get in and irritate your skin pores. Don't be rubbing your eyes/face with sawdust on your hands. You should coat the end cuts as well, it will last forever

Coat the end cuts with what?

 

[sprintcvx]

Coat the end cuts with what?

We've always called it end cut solution. The stuff we used on this deck the home owner purchased from the same supplier as the deck boards(I can't remember the brand name). It went on white but dried clear. Any oil based stain should work as well.

 

[TripleB]

We've always called it end cut solution. The stuff we used on this deck the home owner purchased from the same supplier as the deck boards(I can't remember the brand name). It went on white but dried clear. Any oil based stain should work as well.

Thanks

 

[TripleB]

The date to leave, head south, is now Jan 23rd, someone couldnt do it earlier, some thing about closing on their house

 

[Hullbilly]

Bring a stack of saw blades?

And bearings for thise tools you are bringing!



Hey when are you starting yoore own forum?

 

[Checkmate21]

Coat the end cuts with Anchor Seal. Make sure you finish all 4 sides, not just the top! If you finish just the top, it will twist and warp like you will not believe. I like the look of Red Balau better and it is about 30% cheaper. Just make real sure that all sides and edges are coated before installing. You will be very sorry if you don't do it. That goes for all of the tropical hardwoods.

When you finish it, I would recommend using a clear finish like Penofin or Super Deck. By using a clear, the color will not darken as much each time you re-coat it.

 

[TripleB]

Thanks Hula needs all the help he can get

I will be keeping score on this project, my guess the Ipee wood will get out to a huge lead before Hula claws back in to it

 

[TripleB]

The project

 

[sirbob]

View attachment 719288 The project

That looks like a trex 2x4?

 

[snowhammer]

View attachment 719288 The project

Only replacing one board?

 

[RichL]

Only replacing one board?

Well it justifies the trip doesn't it?

 

[snowhammer]

Well it justifies the trip doesn't it?

For sure. Just the stories alone

 

[TripleB]

Actually 42 boards

Ipee 1 Hula 0

 

[TripleB]

Also confirmed airline tickets today, game on

 

[TripleB]

Hula announces the moving of equipment to the Triple B Hut for the trip to the Keys

Ipee still waits

 

[Racey]

6 or 7 years ago i built some doors out of Cumaru, it's very similar to Ipe. Drilling and cutting is not really a problem, Carbide blades on the saw will last no worries. HSS drills as well, I had to drill and counter bore (not counter sink) about 600 fastener holes for #10 button head allens, did it all with a single forstner bit, and normal HSS drill bit. A drill press definitely makes it all easier. I had to rip every piece on my table saw, and then router a 1/8" chamfer on all the planks, It was no sweat on the carbide.

the worst part of working with it is that it makes really short and really strong splinters that can be hard to pick out, you will be picking a few out of your hands if you don't glove up. Other than that it's not too big of a deal.

 

[TripleB]

Fountain is flowing, if I keep this up I may take on the Ipee wood

 

[TripleB]

Hula has accepted the Ipee challenge