I guess the army flew a tad too low for a NFL flyover

[JB in so cal]

Several views. The FAA said concerns were if something went wrong, blow down from prop wash, blah blah blah

Must have been cool to look down on the choppers

FAA Has Questions For U.S. Army About Spectacular Titans Football Game Flyover (Updated)

Four U.S. Army helicopters had flown extremely low over Nashville's Nissan Stadium prompting cheers, as well as concerns and criticism.

www.thedrive.com

 

[monkeyswrench]

To me, that's beautiful! We have soldiers underneath those birds in less than perfect conditions every day. This is as close as some would ever be.
Not to mention, FAA is perfectly fine with training with those same birds in downtown LA, Miami and probably other cities as well.

 

[wallnutz]

Fucking Karen’s taking over the country, we are doomed.

 

[nowski]

Flying too low??? I thought the NFL already had an answer for that by letting the players take a knee before each game...

 

[Blackmagic94]

Wake me up when the fighting starts

 

[HTTP404]

Karens for sure. But in some videos you can see what looks like a wire spanning the stadium that they flew under. I thought no way if there was some kind of wire strung across midfield would they have missed that.

 

[Icky]

Shouldn't the army just tell the FAA to fuck off?

 

[Wheeler]

I sure hope nobody lost their MAGA hats!

 

[707dog]

at a SF giants game there was a group of navy Fighter jets doing a flyover the 2 middle jets hit the brakes stopped mid stadium and shot straight up was the loudest and baddest shit ever felt like took the air out of stadium the whole stadium heated up

 

[Sleek-Jet]

The navy actually flew an F18 below the top of a stadium a couple years ago... Pilots got in deep shit over that.

Karens or not, there are rules these guys are supposed to follow.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

We were at the Alabama / Auburn game last weekend, 4 F15’s came in on cue as the national anthem wrapped up, they were low and loud and hauling ass, it was fucking awesome, Ground shook and you could feel the afterburner heat as they pinned it about mid field. The pilots returned to the field at half time and were given a standing ovation as their names were announced. All were Auburn grads. They unzipped their flight suits and all had auburn shirts on underneath.

 

[TomD]

Shouldn't the army just tell the FAA to fuck off?

Right on!!!! Since when would the Army give two shits about the FAA??? LOL

 

[wzuber]

The navy actually flew an F18 below the top of a stadium a couple years ago... Pilots got in deep shit over that.

Karens or not, there are rules these guys are supposed to follow.

"You flew below the established hard deck.......and broke a major rule of engagement" lol

 

[ChiliPepperGarage]

 

[81Sprint]

 

[2Driver]

Too low? Uh, they’re helicopters, they can land on the field and take off again.

 

[Mcob25rg]

So, just to be clear, these guys are trained to fly into enemy territory, UNDER FIRE, and drop off / pickup our guys, but someone thinks they were flying too low, and might hurt a civilian. Got it - carry on

 

[LuauLounge]

They had to muss up the hairdo of some elected official in the stands......
Congressional investigation is coming.

 

[Mandelon]

That was rad. F the haters!!

#Let'sGoBrandon

 

[Ziggy]

Fucking Karen’s taking over the country, we are doomed.

Those are the dumbfuks you need to ask if they'd prefer Russian or Chinese fighters overhead dropping pointed cylinders on them....gawd damn spoiled, entitled and whiney C-hunts.

 

[was thatguy]

Looked AWESOME to me....

 

[Kachina26]

LOL, that wasn't over the stadium, that was through the stadium. Pretty cool.

 

[Tooms22]

Looked epic to me!!!

Only takes a few whiny ass people complaining to elicit a response. The majority was probably all for it.

And aren't our military helicopter pilots supposed to be the best in the world?

 

[Warlock1]

I think Ronald needs to leave the adulting to the grown ups...

 

[185EZ]

That was badass. I got goosebumps watching it.
You see the Chinook doing the seesaw at the end?
They can land in my backyard anytime they want

 

[RVR SWPR]

Another media controlled negative narrative towards the power of all United States military. The media is controlled by outsiders.

 

[wzuber]

Those are the dumbfuks you need to ask if they'd prefer Russian or Chinese fighters overhead dropping pointed cylinders on them....gawd damn spoiled, entitled and whiney C-hunts.

Damm right there ziggmister......

 

[wzuber]

Looked epic to me!!!

Only takes a few whiny ass people complaining to elicit a response. The majority was probably all for it.

And aren't our military helicopter pilots supposed to be the best in the world?

Supposed to be???
They absolutely are.....MAGA

 

[wzuber]

Another media controlled negative narrative towards the power of all United States military. The media is controlled by outsiders.

Nicely stated.......
And absolutely correct.....
They like to c our heads explode everytime they do it too. Give them greatst satisfaction, encouragement and control.....in their eyes.

 

[highvoltagehands]

at a SF giants game there was a group of navy Fighter jets doing a flyover the 2 middle jets hit the brakes stopped mid stadium and shot straight up was the loudest and baddest shit ever felt like took the air out of stadium the whole stadium heated up

That would be fucking badass! Is there a video of it?

 

[lbhsbz]

SInce when does the FAA have any juristiction over military? This is like the fat women on the view complaining about something...nobody gives a shit.

 

[Booshy]

It was bad ass if you ask me. But if you watch the news video they actually flew under a wire stretched across the stadiaum. That could have been very ugly. Hard to believe they all flew under the wire and not one of them hit it!! Looks like they cleared it by a couple feet

 

[DrunkenSailor]

Kid: whine whine bitch bitch
Dad: but did you die?

The pilots deserve a half hearted yelling at by their co. If they had fucked up and somebody got hurt then let them get the shitstorm.

I would trust these guys more than anyone else to get it right regardless of what rules they break.

 

[Icky]

It was bad ass if you ask me. But if you watch the news video they actually flew under a wire stretched across the stadiaum. That could have been very ugly. Hard to believe they all flew under the wire and not one of them hit it!! Looks like they cleared it by a couple feet

I didn't notice it in any of the videos till I watched the news report on it.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

SInce when does the FAA have any juristiction over military? This is like the fat women on the view complaining about something...nobody gives a shit.

The FAA has jurisdiction over all the airspace above the United States. The military gets areas to go play in, but they are largely obligated to follow the same rules that any other user of the airspace must follow.

 

[PlanB]

No such thing as "too low" for an Army helicopter...

 

[707dog]

That would be fucking badass! Is there a video of it?

That would be fucking badass! Is there a video of it?

not sure if there is one or not, i took my mom to that game so we were in our seats.

 

[instagator]

It was bad ass if you ask me. But if you watch the news video they actually flew under a wire stretched across the stadiaum. That could have been very ugly. Hard to believe they all flew under the wire and not one of them hit it!! Looks like they cleared it by a couple feet

That is why the FAA is looking in to it.....Did they plan to miss the wires !

 

[spectra3279]

They had to muss up the hairdo of some elected official in the stands......
Congressional investigation is coming.

It's sad that this is actually possible

 

[highvoltagehands]

It was bad ass if you ask me. But if you watch the news video they actually flew under a wire stretched across the stadiaum. That could have been very ugly. Hard to believe they all flew under the wire and not one of them hit it!! Looks like they cleared it by a couple feet

I heard “It was optical illusion And was actually well below them. They reconned the flight path in advance, knew about the cable and could clearly see it below them from the cockpit.” The view from video camera is terrible. Unfortunately they broke 1000’ FAA rule that usually doesn’t apply to them, so there‘s probably some trouble brewing. Either way that’s still fucking badassery, and I would pay money just to sit in a stadium and see a flyby like that.

 

[ToMorrow44]

This is all part of the pussification of the military. Army pilots rarely fly above 200’ nap of the earth. Yes, that’s not over populated areas, got it. But they know their shit. That didn’t look unsafe to me. I did a flyover similar for a Dolphins game a couple years ago.

Nothing more boring than a helicopter flyover at 500ft…you gotta be low and slow. Let’s be honest, flyovers are nothing more than a recruiting tool…you gotta make it cool so little kids there go “wow! I want to do that someday!”

 

[PlanB]

^^^ We flew NOE at night with NVG's and were in and out of dusty LZ's. The environment we operated in daily was a hell of a lot more dangerous than that stadium flyover.

 

[530RL]

I heard “It was optical illusion And was actually well below them. They reconned the flight path in advance, knew about the cable and could clearly see it below them from the cockpit.” The view from video camera is terrible. Unfortunately they broke 1000’ FAA rule that usually doesn’t apply to them, so there‘s probably some trouble brewing. Either way that’s still fucking badassery, and I would pay money just to sit in a stadium and see a flyby like that.

91.119(b) minimum safe altitude over congested areas, the 1000 foot rule, does not apply to any helicopters.

Minimum safe altitude for helicopters under 91.119(d) is “without hazard to persons or property on the surface”.

 

[highvoltagehands]

91.119(b) minimum safe altitude over congested areas, the 1000 foot rule, does not apply to any helicopters.

Minimum safe altitude for helicopters under 91.119(d) is “without hazard to persons or property on the surface”.

Is that a commercial zoned area? I just know We’re not allowed to set poles in backyards with helicopters or fly men or equipment over houses without notifying the neighborhood First. That’s why we use cranes.

 

[4Waters]

EH I've seen lower

 

[530RL]

Is that a commercial zoned area? I just know We’re not allowed to set poles in backyards with helicopters or fly men or equipment over houses without notifying the neighborhood First. That’s why we use cranes.

That is the general Federal Aviation Regulations.

There are typically Temporary Flight Restrictions and other regulations that come into play which affect operators and would become more burdensome in areas with large public events. In your example of power line work, or construction work for that matter, the rules and regulations get quite burdensome depending upon where it is, who the operator is and how close it may be to a existing population, an airport or flight path.

The question in this case, is that if an emergency occurred, could have the PIC handled that occurrence “without hazard to persons or property on the surface”? That is for others to decide. However, risk assessment and is the risk worthy of the objective is the primary goal of all operators policies whether it be civilian or military.

With respect to when did the FAA get to tell the military what they can and can not do, the agreement of the military and the FAA to impose certain Federal Regulations on military operators was a direct result of the Hughes Ariwest Flight 706 Incident.

 

[riverroyal]

I think the real story here is the original poster is a queer

 

[JB in so cal]

I think the real story here is the original poster is a queer

Pillow biting homo

 

[ToMorrow44]

The question in this case, is that if an emergency occurred, could have the PIC handled that occurrence “without hazard to persons or property on the surface”? That is for others to decide. However, risk assessment and is the risk worthy of the objective is the primary goal of all operators policies whether it be civilian or military.

Agreed. And my take on it is, yes, they would have been able to handle any emergency without hazard to people. Those are all multi engine helicopters, they’re not going to fall out of the sky. Even a fire or gearbox problem could have been handled outside the stadium. But, this is left up to interpretation which sucks for the pilots and they’re going to come under the microscope

 

[530RL]

Agreed. And my take on it is, yes, they would have been able to handle any emergency without hazard to people. Those are all multi engine helicopters, they’re not going to fall out of the sky. Even a fire or gearbox problem could have been handled outside the stadium. But, this is left up to interpretation which sucks for the pilots and they’re going to come under the microscope

The military does over 1,200 flyovers per year. It’s hard to imagine they don’t have operating procedures including minimum safe altitudes for such publicity events.