Is it too early?

[beerrun]

Is it too early to start the impeach 46

 

[530RL]

Depends upon if Pence is 46 for a few days.

 

[beerrun]

 

[HST4ME]

I'm just more interested in when * get sent to the glue factory.

 

[dnewps]

Depends upon if Pence is 46 for a few days.

Pence’s political career is OVER! not a chance in hell he is elected dog catcher. The GOP as you know it is GONE. Might be time for you to change your party to Democrat if you can’t get behind populist nationalism.

 

[530RL]

Pence’s political career is OVER! not a chance in hell he is elected dog catcher. The GOP as you know it is GONE. Might be time for you to change your party to Democrat if you can’t get behind populist nationalism.

I agree his career is over.

I’m gonna stick with conservatism. We already have a populist national movement led by Bernie and AOC.

On that I am out but I understand how some would need to rely on the government as opposed to freedom and capitalism.

 

[Reddy Too]

I agree his career is over.

I’m gonna stick with conservatism. We already have a populist national movement led by Bernie and AOC.

On that I am out but I understand how some would need to rely on the government as opposed to freedom and capitalism.

Bullshit. He has future Golden Parachute thanks to Flakes lobbying firm. By the way, how does he like his coffee?,

 

[Kahunajuice]

Pence’s political career is OVER! not a chance in hell he is elected dog catcher. The GOP as you know it is GONE. Might be time for you to change your party to Democrat if you can’t get behind populist nationalism.

I totally agree, and who do we thank for that?

 

[regor]

Bullshit. He has future Golden Parachute thanks to Flakes lobbying firm. By the way, how does he like his coffee?,

Flake is the CNN Queen these days, but his handlers are “conservative”

 

[rivrrts429]

 

[dnewps]

I totally agree, and who do we thank for that?

We the people for trusting a carefully crafted public image. I’m sure you do the same with the politicians that you think you are aligned with. It’s an American problem.

 

[dnewps]

I agree his career is over.

I’m gonna stick with conservatism. We already have a populist national movement led by Bernie and AOC.

On that I am out but I understand how some would need to rely on the government as opposed to freedom and capitalism.

I still can’t believe you are a conservative. If so, you have been taking a nap. Massive Corporations have been running rough shot in the name of capitalism. When those corps team with big govt it’s called Facism Mr Conservative. Or like China’s model state capitalism with a heavy dose of Authoritarianism. Pence is a perfect conservative on paper...I really liked him. Maybe it’s a uniparty...

 

[dnewps]

I agree his career is over.

I’m gonna stick with conservatism. We already have a populist national movement led by Bernie and AOC.

On that I am out but I understand how some would need to rely on the government as opposed to freedom and capitalism.

Many Bernie bros are kids...they know they will never own a home, or have a 30 year job with a pension. That is the exact group that needs to be brought into the national populist movement...accomplish that and you can have your country back. Almost every American institution is worse than it was thanks to these global elite pieces of shit!

 

[530RL]

I still can’t believe you are a conservative. If so, you have been taking a nap. Massive Corporations have been running rough shot in the name of capitalism. When those corps team with big govt it’s called Facism Mr Conservative. Or like China’s model state capitalism with a heavy dose of Authoritarianism. Pence is a perfect conservative on paper...I really liked him. Maybe it’s a uniparty...

Most of the big corporations that ran the world when I was in my early career are now relatively small, have gone out of business or are a fraction of the big companies today.

The rich “robber Barron” families and companies of the past who were as you allege protected by the government are now a shell of their former self.

And that is because new companies come up and out innovate them. New leaders beat the old leaders at capitalism and competition. New technologies replace old technologies. Some win and some lose as it should be with our system

All capitalists want to be the next big company. And they all know they will one day fall from grace should they succeed for a period of time.

That is capitalism. That is competition. That is what makes America great compared to other Countries where the government picks and protects the winners from the losers.

Just as former big companies have gone by the wayside or lost their leadership position, the big companies of today will also experience that fate.

And anyone who thinks the government should pick and control who wins and who loses is the real big government socialist/fascist. Anyone can succeed in this country. Compare our capitalistic system to others and then make your case that capitalism is the problem.

Ironically when you claim that big successful companies are the problem and government needs to reel them in, you are actually making the CCP argument that a “benevolent” government knows best.

I’ll take my chances fighting big companies over fighting the government as I know I can beat a big company but can not beat a big government.

 

[dnewps]

Most of the big corporations that ran the world when I was in my early career are now relatively small, have gone out of business or are a fraction of the big companies today.

The rich “robber Barron” families and companies of the past who were as you allege protected by the government are now a shell of their former self.

And that is because new companies come up and out innovate them. New leaders beat the old leaders at capitalism and competition. New technologies replace old technologies. Some win and some lose as it should be with our system

All capitalists want to be the next big company. And they all know they will one day fall from grace should they succeed for a period of time.

That is capitalism. That is competition. That is what makes America great compared to other Countries where the government picks and protects the winners from the losers.

Just as former big companies have gone by the wayside or lost their leadership position, the big companies of today will also experience that fate.

And anyone who thinks the government should pick and control who wins and who loses is the real big government socialist/fascist. Anyone can succeed in this country. Compare our capitalistic system to others and then make your case that capitalism is the problem.

Ironically when you claim that big successful companies are the problem and government needs to reel them in, you are actually making the CCP argument that a “benevolent” government knows best.

I’ll take my chances fighting big companies over fighting the government as I know I can beat a big company but can not beat a big government.

I started listening to Rush when I was 15 while living in a liberal utopia... business school with econ and poli sci. Career in Finance. I’m conservative

WE DON’T HAVE CAPITALISM!!!! When you corner a market it’s a monopoly...when it’s just a few it’s an oligopoly. Ruling class for their own gain is Oligarchy.

Today the the tech platforms decided that many of the most influential voices on the right could not speak. INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. While you are locked in your house with your mask on...think real hard...is this the free, capitalist country you remember???

 

[530RL]

I started listening to Rush when I was 15 while living in a liberal utopia... business school with econ and poli sci. Career in Finance. I’m conservative

WE DON’T HAVE CAPITALISM!!!! When you corner a market it’s a monopoly...when it’s just a few it’s an oligopoly. Ruling class for their own gain is Oligarchy.

Today the the tech platforms decided that many of the most influential voices on the right could not speak. INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. While you are locked in your house with your mask on...think real hard...is this the free, capitalist country you remember???

Ah, this is about Trump being banned from Twitter.

Private enterprise has the right to choose who can be on their platforms just as Dave does on his here.

And if Trump and his supporters disagree they are free to start any platform they so choose. And no government or other private enterprise should stop him from doing so.

When one argues the government should tell Dave at RDP or Jack Dorsey at Twitter who he must do business with or not do business with I am out.

That is the road to the communist system and more government control of private enterprise.

What do you do in finance?

 

[dnewps]

Ah, this is about Trump being banned from Twitter.

Private enterprise has the right to choose who can be on their platforms just as Dave does on his here.

And if Trump and his supporters disagree they are free to start any platform they so choose. And no government or other private enterprise should stop him from doing so.

When one argues the government should tell Dave at RDP or Jack Dorsey at Twitter who he must do business with or not do business with I am out.

That is the road to the communist system and more government control of private enterprise.

Ahh? Did you see the long list of not Trump? Like Rush. Economics 101 was a good class...perhaps you should have stuck around for 201. You are discussing theory outside of application. And you are leaving out that special protection provided by GOVERNMENT, written by paid lobbyists, that grants the ability for a first mover advantaged land grab with legal protection in court. You think thats laissez-faire economics? Austrian economics? Capitalism? You are sadly mistaken. That is a cornered market...and at the will of government.

 

[yz450mm]

Ah, this is about Trump being banned from Twitter.

Private enterprise has the right to choose who can be on their platforms just as Dave does on his here.

And if Trump and his supporters disagree they are free to start any platform they so choose. And no government or other private enterprise should stop him from doing so.

When one argues the government should tell Dave at RDP or Jack Dorsey at Twitter who he must do business with or not do business with I am out.

That is the road to the communist system and more government control of private enterprise.

What do you do in finance?

So tell me, when Google and Apple prevent Parler from being downloaded on their platforms, how do you feel about that? Is that not private Enterprise stopping conservatives and Trump supporters from communicating?

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[thetub]

Ah, this is about Trump being banned from Twitter.

Private enterprise has the right to choose who can be on their platforms just as Dave does on his here.

And if Trump and his supporters disagree they are free to start any platform they so choose. And no government or other private enterprise should stop him from doing so.

When one argues the government should tell Dave at RDP or Jack Dorsey at Twitter who he must do business with or not do business with I am out.

That is the road to the communist system and more government control of private enterprise.

What do you do in finance?

530 yore so full of it

you know what he means

they are one of the same ... yore big companies and government silencing one man they despise

plain and simple.

total control

 

[530RL]

Ahh? Did you see the long list of not Trump? Like Rush. Economics 101 was a good class...perhaps you should have stuck around for 201. You are discussing theory outside of application. And you are leaving out that special protection provided by GOVERNMENT, written by paid lobbyists, that grants the ability for a first mover advantaged land grab with legal protection in court. You think thats laissez-faire economics? Austrian economics? Capitalism? You are sadly mistaken. That is a cornered market...and at the will of government.

You are absolutely correct in those points of government interfering with free markets.

All those points you bring up are exactly why I think government is the problem. And your points show exactly why I think the solution is less government, not greater government as laid out by populist movements and by Trumps administration.

It appears we are in agreement on the problem, we simply disagree on the solution.

 

[thetub]

TRUMP IS EXPOSING THE WHORES

AND THEY ARE TRYING TO SILENCE HIM

PERIOD

PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS MY ASS

 

[530RL]

So tell me, when Google and Apple prevent Parler from being downloaded on their platforms, how do you feel about that? Is that not private Enterprise stopping conservatives and Trump supporters from communicating?

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It is private enterprise deciding freely who they want to do business with and who they do not want to do business with.

It is also an opportunity for innovators to start new profitable platforms to compete with Google and Apple. Competition that leads to more options, new technologies and lower prices to the user.

It is exactly for me how the system should work. For if the government commanded those platforms to do business with those they choose not to, the opportunity for new platforms would be reduced.

Deregulation and less government is exactly why we now have 500 channels competing for eyeballs versus three when I was a kid.

Call me an evil capitalist but I see it as an opportunity. Just as Murdoch did when he started FOX.

 

[yz450mm]

It is private enterprise deciding freely who they want to do business with and who they do not want to do business with.

It is also an opportunity for innovators to start new profitable platforms to compete with Google and Apple. Competition that leads to more options, new technologies and lower prices to the user.

It is exactly for me how the system should work. For if the government commanded those platforms to do business with those they choose not to, the opportunity for new platforms would be reduced.

Deregulation and less government is exactly why we now have 500 channels competing for eyeballs.

Call me an evil capitalist but I see it as an opportunity. Just as Murdoch did when he started FOX.

So let me get this straight. Parler created a new platform to compete with FB/IG/YT/TW, and attracted a majority of conservatives and Republican minded people.

For that they are now getting shut down and excluded from being hosted on 99.9% of America's cellular phone platforms, and that's supposed to be a good thing?

Did you just suggest that somebody can form a new platform to compete with Google or Apple, the world's two biggest technology companies? Are you so self-righteous that you think that's actually something that anybody would believe?

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[dnewps]

You are absolutely correct in those points of government interfering with free markets.

All those points you bring up are exactly why I think government is the problem. And your points show exactly why I think the solution is less government, not greater government as laid out by populist movements and by Trumps administration.

It appears we are in agreement on the problem, we simply disagree on the solution.

I bet we agree on more than we disagree. I KNOW govt is the problem. Way out of control. I’m sure you cringe at the debt that Trump signed. I’m sure you cringed at the ridiculous “15” day stay at home recommendation he made. He does not control the purse and he was politically opposing the media, congress, judiciary, and the permanent DC establishment. He is 1 man. I am not sure 1 other man could do it. Besides, it’s not about Trump...it’s about the country and the future. Populist=we the people Nationalist=America first.

 

[530RL]

So let me get this straight. Parler created a new platform to compete with FB/IG/YT/TW, and attracted a majority of conservatives and Republican minded people.

For that they are now getting shut down and excluded from being hosted on 99.9% of America's cellular phone platforms, and that's supposed to be a good thing?

Did you just suggest that somebody can form a new platform to compete with Google or Apple, the world's two biggest technology companies? Are you so self-righteous that you think that's actually something that anybody would believe?

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Yep.

Just as google and Apple built market share by taking it from the former entrenched suppliers, this is a great opportunity for other companies to take some market share from Apple and google.

We used to all have nothing but Motorola phones and everyone worried about that yet no one has one now. Then blackberry’s. And mark my words others will come and compete with Apple and google.

The last thing we want is for government to force google and Apple to support parlor. For if we do their oligopoly will be further cemented and us consumers will have less choices and higher prices.

When the government forces existing suppliers to support everyone, there is no path for new innovators.

 

[dnewps]

So let me get this straight. Parler created a new platform to compete with FB/IG/YT/TW, and attracted a majority of conservatives and Republican minded people.

For that they are now getting shut down and excluded from being hosted on 99.9% of America's cellular phone platforms, and that's supposed to be a good thing?

Did you just suggest that somebody can form a new platform to compete with Google or Apple, the world's two biggest technology companies? Are you so self-righteous that you think that's actually something that anybody would believe?

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3 gas stations on one corner. 2 collude to take turns having the lowest gas price until the third is knocked out of business. NOT CAPITALISM!!!! In capitalism, GOVT first responsibility is to protect property rights.

just like anything in politics...1980’s Republicans have been spoon fed narratives about fake capitalism as the politicians served their donors to get elected. Simple.

if “conservatives” are going to exist in the next ten years these concepts need to be understood. And some of those bernie bros that are pissed at the 1% elite need to be brought into the tent...or else

 

[dnewps]

Yep.

Just as google and Apple built market share by taking it from the former entrenched suppliers, this is a great opportunity for other companies to take some market share from Apple and google.

We used to all have nothing but Motorola phones and everyone worried about that yet no one has one now. Then blackberry’s. And mark my words others will come and compete with Apple and google.

The last thing we want is for government to force google and Apple to support parlor. For if we do their oligopoly will be further cemented and us consumers will have less choices and higher prices.

When the government forces existing suppliers to support everyone, there is no path for new innovators.

You must see the symbiotic relationship between govt and business. If one feeds the other then one needs to be destroyed. You want to eliminate most of govt...bernie bros want to eliminate big business. But the situation is fucked up and NOT AMERICAN

 

[yz450mm]

Yep.

Just as google and Apple built market share by taking it from the former entrenched suppliers, this is a great opportunity for other companies to take some market share from Apple and google.

We used to all have nothing but Motorola phones and everyone worried about that yet no one has one now. Then blackberry’s. And mark my words others will come and compete with Apple and google.

The last thing we want is for government to force google and Apple to support parlor. For if we do their oligopoly will be further cemented and us consumers will have less choices and higher prices.

When the government forces existing suppliers to support everyone, there is no path for new innovators.

I'm not sure why you're talking about cell phone manufacturers, we've all been through the drill and understand that that's not the issue at hand.

Who were the entrenched suppliers that Google and Apple stole the market share from?

If Google and Apple, which have 99.9% of the market share, continue to censor platforms that are mostly conservative or republican, how is not it that an oligarchy? What is there to stop them from continuing that censorship, and only allowing apps that coincide with their core beliefs?



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[530RL]

3 gas stations on one corner. 2 collude to take turns having the lowest gas price until the third is knocked out of business. NOT CAPITALISM!!!! In capitalism, GOVT first responsibility is to protect property rights.

just like anything in politics...1980’s Republicans have been spoon fed narratives about fake capitalism as the politicians served their donors to get elected. Simple.

if “conservatives” are going to exist in the next ten years these concepts need to be understood. And some of those bernie bros that are pissed at the 1% elite need to be brought into the tent...or else

Three gas stations. One invests in new technologies, maybe even technologies not developed in America, to increase their daily fuel sales and shorten the time that it takes the customer to get in and out.

As a result they sell more fuel, have lower fixed costs per gallon and lower prices resulting in lower prices to the consumer and the other two gas stations going out of business.

Capitalism?

 

[yz450mm]

3 gas stations on one corner. 2 collude to take turns having the lowest gas price until the third is knocked out of business. NOT CAPITALISM!!!! In capitalism, GOVT first responsibility is to protect property rights.

just like anything in politics...1980’s Republicans have been spoon fed narratives about fake capitalism as the politicians served their donors to get elected. Simple.

if “conservatives” are going to exist in the next ten years these concepts need to be understood. And some of those bernie bros that are pissed at the 1% elite need to be brought into the tent...or else

actually in looking at your scenario, if I was the third gas station, I would just lower my price way down below the others and put them both out of business. Then slightly mark up the price of ice, water, and snacks to make up for it.

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[dnewps]

I'm not sure why you're talking about cell phone manufacturers, we've all been through the drill and understand that that's not the issue at hand.

Who were the entrenched suppliers that Google and Apple stole the market share from?

If Google and Apple, which have 99.9% of the market share, continue to censor platforms that are mostly conservative or republican, how is not it that an oligarchy? What is there to stop them from continuing that censorship, and only allowing apps that coincide with their core beliefs?



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Or the beliefs of the govt that allows their oligopoly.

 

[dnewps]

For tech its money, for govt it’s power. And neither benefit a free society.

 

[530RL]

I'm not sure why you're talking about cell phone manufacturers, we've all been through the drill and understand that that's not the issue at hand.

Who were the entrenched suppliers that Google and Apple stole the market share from?

If Google and Apple, which have 99.9% of the market share, continue to censor platforms that are mostly conservative or republican, how is not it that an oligarchy? What is there to stop them from continuing that censorship, and only allowing apps that coincide with their core beliefs?



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I get your point but I have a different take based upon my observations. I travel a lot, at least prior to Covid, and I see all the cool and neat technology that should be in America. Technology that would compete with google and Apple.

But we don’t have a lot of that because government keeps it from getting to us.

As a result I get your view that they are an oligopoly and were fucked.

But I only think we are fucked as consumers because the government stops innovation with regulation. So I rally for competition and free markets.

So we agree to respectfully disagree.

 

[530RL]

actually in looking at your scenario, if I was the third gas station, I would just lower my price way down below the others and put them both out of business. Then slightly mark up the price of ice, water, and snacks to make up for it.

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And that is innovation and competition.

But the bigger point I was hoping to get to is when the other two went out of business, someone new would pick up those locations at a discount, put in that technology or better technology and the consumer would be the winner.

Hence competition.

I remember 25 years ago when I thought no one could compete with Motorola. Now who is Motorola?

 

[yz450mm]

I get your point but I have a different take based upon my observations. I travel a lot, at least prior to Covid, and I see all the cool and neat technology that should be in America. Technology that would compete with google and Apple.

But we don’t have a lot of that because government keeps it from getting to us.

As a result I get your view that they are an oligopoly and were fucked.

But I only think we are fucked as consumers because the government stops innovation with regulation. So I rally for competition and free markets.

So we agree to respectfully disagree. [emoji106]

Thanks for not being a douchebag in your response, I appreciate it. I've been around the world to at least 11 different countries, so please don't assume that I'm some country boy that hasn't been around.

Yeah there's lots of Technology out there that could come to the United States, but to be honest, who could compete with the major players in the game at this point?

People love their Android or Apple phones, and they are not willing to even look at any new options unless that shit is free, and will sync up to their current phone without any kind of hitch.

People want easy, and when you can buy a new phone and have all your shit transferred to the new one within 5 minutes at the store, whether it be Apple or Android, that shit is easy.

The major manufacturers of cell phones and cell phone data providers have an obligation to provide censor free content to all their customers. Once that line is crossed, it's going to get real.

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[530RL]

For tech its money, for govt it’s power. And neither benefit a free society.

What should tech be for?

 

[dnewps]

Three gas stations. One invests in new technologies, maybe even technologies not developed in America, to increase their daily fuel sales and shorten the time that it takes the customer to get in and out.

As a result they sell more fuel, have lower fixed costs per gallon and lower prices resulting in lower prices to the consumer and the other two gas stations going out of business.

Capitalism?

Yes sir. That’s exactly capitalism. But innovation must be the path of least resistance. That is the role of govt. in the real world that gas station is taxed to hell and has 1,000 environmental regulations where only a few are needed. Knocking out 1 of the gas stations becomes the most profitable.

Market share, market share, market share. It’s always been more profitable than innovation. Remember when you paid $50 for a long distance phone call? Well now this phone innovation...is just another oligopoly phone company. The irony is it may be cheaper but you can’t talk...lol

Isn’t this what China has been doing for years! Play currency games until the US business is knocked out.

 

[yz450mm]

And that is innovation and competition.

But the bigger point I was hoping to get to is when the other two went out of business, someone new would pick up those locations at a discount, put in that technology or better technology and the consumer would be the winner.

Hence competition.

I remember 25 years ago when I thought no one could compete with Motorola. Now who is Motorola?

What competent business owners would allow the other two stations to go out of business? You would see that your competition is out stepping you, and have to adjust prices accordingly.


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[530RL]

Thanks for not being a douchebag in your response, I appreciate it. I've been around the world to at least 11 different countries, so please don't assume that I'm some country boy that hasn't been around.

Yeah there's lots of Technology out there that could come to the United States, but to be honest, who could compete with the major players in the game at this point?

People love their Android or Apple phones, and they are not willing to even look at any new options unless that shit is free, and will sync up to their current phone without any kind of hitch.

People want easy, and when you can buy a new phone and have all your shit transferred to the new one within 5 minutes at the store, whether it be Apple or Android, that shit is easy.

The major manufacturers of cell phones and cell phone data providers have an obligation to provide censor free content to all their customers. Once that line is crossed, it's going to get real.

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I need to work on my diction.... I was never inferring you were a country bumpkin.

I was trying to diplomatically say that it is this aversion to foreign competition and foreign product options for Americans by the government that creates the exact problem you are rationally expressing.

 

[dnewps]

What should tech be for?

Productivity. A more efficient market. A better market allocation of resources.

 

[530RL]

What competent business owners would allow the other two stations to go out of business? You would see that your competition is out stepping you, and have to adjust prices accordingly.


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Fair point. But if everyone had that ability no business would ever go out of business and we would all achieve roughly equal economic results.

Not my experience thankfully.

 

[530RL]

Productivity. A more efficient market. A better market allocation of resources.

And what should they do that for? How should they be remunerated and who should decide that renumeration?

I do it for money. And I want the market to decide how much money I can get for that. And I want every penny the market will pay.

 

[dnewps]

What competent business owners would allow the other two stations to go out of business? You would see that your competition is out stepping you, and have to adjust prices accordingly.


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But you can’t. If the other 2 take turns having the better value...you never have the value. If both are also innovating...what do you do? You exit...sell your station on the cheap to the competition or just go out of business

 

[yz450mm]

Fair point. But if everyone had that ability no business would ever go out of business and we would all achieve roughly equal economic results.

Not my experience thankfully.

Every single business on the planet absolutely has the ability to adjust their pricing according to current economic conditions. The reason most businesses go out of business is because of owner greed, or lack of paying taxes, or the inability to actually run the business correctly.

As a contractor, if I started losing all of my bids or proposals, I would take a hard look at my pricing and figure out why. If I had tried to increase my price above the competition, that would be why. If I had stayed the course and my competition had lowered their price, then Bingo, there you go.

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[dnewps]

And what should they do that for? How should they be remunerated and who should decide that renumeration?

I do it for money. And I want the market to decide how much money I can get for that. And I want every penny the market will pay.

100% agree! You are describing economic freedom. I am asserting that when the governing body is colluding with the business or the governing body is not functioning as intended....you don’t have economic freedom. Monopolies and oligopolies collapse under free market conditions.

 

[yz450mm]

But you can’t. If the other 2 take turns having the better value...you never have the value. If both are also innovating...what do you do? You exit...sell your station on the cheap to the competition or just go out of business

Then you undercut both stations on gas price by a couple of cents, and run crazy specials on your merchandise and eat it. Then when your merchandising reps come to refill their stuff, you tell them you need to deal or they can take their shit and fuck off.

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[thetub]

100% agree! You are describing economic freedom. I am asserting that when the governing body is colluding with the business or the governing body is not functioning as intended....you don’t have economic freedom. Monopolies and oligopolies collapse under free market conditions.

yah he leaves pesky little details like that out..

not only governing body But other hostile/rival foreign bodies also

 

[dnewps]

Every single business on the planet absolutely has the ability to adjust their pricing according to current economic conditions. The reason most businesses go out of business is because of owner greed, or lack of paying taxes, or the inability to actually run the business correctly.

As a contractor, if I started losing all of my bids or proposals, I would take a hard look at my pricing and figure out why. If I had tried to increase my price above the competition, that would be why. If I had stayed the course and my competition had lowered their price, then Bingo, there you go.

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If the two biggest contractors that did great work decided to take turns doing it for free...you would be out on your ass. That is anti-trust and illegal. Govt needs to enforce or you don’t exist.

 

[530RL]

100% agree! You are describing economic freedom. I am asserting that when the governing body is colluding with the business or the governing body is not functioning as intended....you don’t have economic freedom. Monopolies and oligopolies collapse under free market conditions.

Exactly, which is why government should not force google or Apple to accept or provide parlor.

For if they do, the opportunity to provide a differentiated product which include parlor, unlike Apple and google, is precluded and the oligopoly of google and apple is continued by the government.

it works both ways. Both collusion as well as coercion by the government extends the life of oligopolies and preclude competition and product differentiation.

 

[yz450mm]

If the two biggest contractors that did great work decided to take turns doing it for free...you would be out on your ass. That is anti-trust and illegal. Govt needs to enforce or you don’t exist.

That doesn't really work, because nobody really does anything for free. I'm a service-based contractor, so I'm not sure it really applies in this case.

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