The Prisoner
Well-Known RDP Prisoner Inmate #283
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I would be pissed, not becuase it happened, but becuase of all the fed state and local agents that would be in my back yard for days.That happened a couple times when I lived in Anchorage. Dumped over neighborhoods. One time an engine fell off and landed in some dudes back yard. Dodged a BIG bullet that time!
Poor inner city yutes.
Only in CA where kids can play in a inner city playground that exposes them to human feces and used junky needles that might have Hep, TB or HIV and thats no big deal.
But someone dumps a little bit of jet A that disperses in the air and everyone loses their shit.
Only in CA.
It would be interesting to see the altitude and % of saturation that may have hit the ground.
They can't contaminate the ocean but inner city kids are OK,They used to go out to sea and dump fuel, I'm guessing that doesn't happen anymore.
Yeah...Plane has engine mechanical at 8k - last thing ATC is worried about is fuel falling to ground.
Sounds and looks like that plane needed to land ASAP and was dumping fuel until the last minute.
Better fuel then plane falling to ground - more people live that way
From the link in post #1Sounds like a shit design from the get go if it can't land with a full load of fuel because the landing gear is a piece of shit.
What the hell is the world coming to...
Still smells like kerosene in Whittier
I got to say...It was dumping fuel well before the turn over West Covina, spraying many schools.
That's what I heard. ATC asked the pilot if he needed to dump fuel, pilot replied no, then decides to dump anyways.Yeah...
Some one will not be flying for awhile. Ask if needed to dump fuel said no. No mention of dumping.
Yes i know aviate, navigate , communicate, but this time its going to hurt.
I read it. And I'm not a aviation expert. But as a human being with two eyes and fuckin brain, it seems pretty retarded to design a obviously necessary component to not be able to handle the entire load of the aircraft in the event of an emergency or any other reason.From the link in post #1
David Soucie, an aviation safety analyst, told CNN there are maximum takeoff and landing weights for aircraft, so in order for a plane with full fuel tanks to land, it must dump the fuel to avoid potentially crashing upon landing.
How fast do you ram the docks at Fox's. lolI read it. And I'm not a aviation expert. But as a human being with two eyes and fuckin brain, it seems pretty retarded to design a obviously necessary component to not be able to handle the entire load of the aircraft in the event of an emergency or any other reason.
Seriously, I don't feel the need to dump 3/4 of my boat fuel before I pull up to Fox's so my fenders don't explode...
Just my thoughts...
Hahahaha!How fast do you ram the docks at Fox's. lol
I'm pretty sure the plane can handle a landing fully loaded but not recommended as testing is done with all systems working normal and an actual emergency landing could be hard due to loss of an engine or hydraulics etc....I read it. And I'm not a aviation expert. But as a human being with two eyes and fuckin brain, it seems pretty retarded to design a obviously necessary component to not be able to handle the entire load of the aircraft in the event of an emergency or any other reason.
Seriously, I don't feel the need to dump 3/4 of my boat fuel before I pull up to Fox's so my fenders don't explode...
Just my thoughts...
Wieght on am airplane is huge. Every extra once is one you cant use to make money. So they design a plane to land at a given weight that would be an average of what a realistic landing wieght would be. It may seem stupid, but it saves millions over the life time of the aircraft.Sounds like a shit design from the get go if it can't land with a full load of fuel because the landing gear is a piece of shit.
What the hell is the world coming to...
I read it. And I'm not a aviation expert. But as a human being with two eyes and fuckin brain, it seems pretty retarded to design a obviously necessary component to not be able to handle the entire load of the aircraft in the event of an emergency or any other reason.
Seriously, I don't feel the need to dump 3/4 of my boat fuel before I pull up to Fox's so my fenders don't explode...
Just my thoughts...
That aint no bullshitBetter than having skydrol falling
Plane has engine mechanical at 8k - last thing ATC is worried about is fuel falling to ground.
Sounds and looks like that plane needed to land ASAP and was dumping fuel until the last minute.
Better fuel then plane falling to ground - more people live that way
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Also, it’s funny reading all these opinions on a boating forum. Until your are sitting in a seat in that cockpit and understand the details of what is happening at that moment, it’s best to reserve judgment until the facts come out.
What's the fun in that.This [emoji3595]
Also, it’s funny reading all these opinions on a boating forum. Until your are sitting in a seat in that cockpit and understand the details of what is happening at that moment, it’s best to reserve judgment until the facts come out.
They don't worry. If the load falls within MLW, (Maximum Landing Weight) the gear will support it as designed. The Military dumps fuel all the time as well. Besides tanks don't sue and one cannot sue the Military anyway.What I don't understand is why can our military fly tanks overseas, land and not have to worry about the fucking landing gear!?
It can land with a full passenger, cargo and fuel load and probably more as all designs and systems on aircraft are purposely over engineered and have multiple redundancies. If it did not conform to it's original Type Certificate of MTOW (Maximum Take Off Weight) MLW, The FAA would not allow it to fly. I have seen no record of the 777 having shitty landing gear, Airworthiness Directives, and/or Service Bulletins alluding to this currently or in the past.1. If an aircraft cannot land fully loaded under any circumstances due to shitty landing gear, why should the FAA allow it fly?
Aircraft wings/spars are extremely robust as well as extremely over engineered by design and undergo severe testing requirements to be certified involving stress tests to observe when and how much force they can withstand before snapping. To repeat these stresses, it would involve forces in nature that are so severe that rarely, if ever will the wings be subjected to these kinds of loads in it's normal lifespan. The severe weather events to exert these kinds of forces do happen, but are so rare as to be rendered negligible at best. Other than from corrosion and/or maintenance neglect, wings snapping off aircraft does not really occur.If the fuel in the wings is "Way too heavy" and they might snap off!