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If we made anything here this wouldn't be an issue, but no, everyone wants $75/hr and full benefits. Guess there's no choice.
Bingo. Or jobs at the union where they only have to work 1 day every 6 months as stated above. That crap blows my mind!

Someday we will run our economy into a ditch and foreigners will cry because we won't be able to buy their goods anymore and American citizens will learn to live without because our government won't allow us to produce our own stuff.
 

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Good thing that most of our raw material is sourced within the good old United States of America.
 

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Just to clarify.
The 1 day of work every 6 months will keep your union card active so you can work if desired. To qualify for insurance benefits you must work 800 hours in calendar year. I'm not a union member at the port. I work on the company side, so I don't know all the ins and outs, but I know enough. :p
 

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Just to clarify.
The 1 day of work every 6 months will keep your union card active so you can work if desired. To qualify for insurance benefits you must work 800 hours in calendar year.
That makes more sense. Thanks.
 

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Wow. In my union you have to work at least a 3-4 months to keep your insurance going. Not sure exactly. Never had to worry about it.

2040 hours is the average work year
So 800 hours (20 weeks) is equals to apx 3-4 months
 

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So I work in paper distribution. VAST majority of product comes in from foreign mfg - China, s Korea, Germany, s America. We can’t make it here - most US mfg was shut down and melted down years ago - many reasons - govt won’t let you build a new mill, not green ( like the pipeline thing ),—unions went crazy in the 80’-90’s, and when the 09 ression hit, profit went away ( paying $40,000 to sweep the floor, $120,000 to actually work in the mill killed the golden goose ), so a lot of those containers on BOTH coasts are full of paper. The few American mills left realize it, and are raising prices as i type, with an imminent shortage only months away. We’re seeing the exact same freight increases - containers WERE $1,100 now are $4,800 - cost of goods are going up regardless WHERE it’s made. Doesn’t help printers - market will only pay so much before using other means and media, so more small businesses will be destroyed. I’ll never understand how I can see the outcome, but the guys making the decisions and the bank can’t. This is the only reason I’m happy to be close to the end of caring.
 

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I read a story on gCaptain that said many ships are being diverted to Mexico's Lazaro Cardenas port. It's located about 1,500 miles south of Long Beach, and rail traffic from there to US destinations has increased some 500% in the last three months.

Regarding the container shortage, since US exports to China are insignificant, more money can be made shipping them back to China empty instead of waiting for cargo to fill them. Currently about 75% of containers shipped from LA to China are empty.

 

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Just curious. What does working 1 day every 6 months get them. 🤷‍♂️
A story in today's WSJ says that when the Democrat's Free Stuff for Everyone COVID legislation bill is passed into law, over 50% of workers receiving state and federal unemployment benefits will be making more money than they did working. Combining that with their moratorium on evictions, a lot of people are going to have a leisurely summer. Why work when money and rent are free?

Between that, the $15 minimum wage hike, and opening the floodgates at the border, American small businesses are going to begin failing like Hunter Biden taking a drug test.

Congratulations on that well thought out vote of yours.
 

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A story in today's WSJ says that when the Democrat's Free Stuff for Everyone COVID legislation bill is passed into law, over 50% of workers receiving state and federal unemployment benefits will be making more money than they did working. Combining that with their moratorium on evictions, a lot of people are going to have a leisurely summer. Why work when money and rent are free?

Between that, the $15 minimum wage hike, and opening the floodgates at the border, American small businesses are going to begin failing like Hunter Biden taking a drug test.

Congratulations on that well thought out vote of yours.
All 50 million votes
 

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A story in today's WSJ says that when the Democrat's Free Stuff for Everyone COVID legislation bill is passed into law, over 50% of workers receiving state and federal unemployment benefits will be making more money than they did working. Combining that with their moratorium on evictions, a lot of people are going to have a leisurely summer. Why work when money and rent are free?

Between that, the $15 minimum wage hike, and opening the floodgates at the border, American small businesses are going to begin failing like Hunter Biden taking a drug test.

Congratulations on that well thought out vote of yours.
Well hopefully these jobless numbers keep going down. :cool:

Stocks inch up as jobless claims drop (msn.com)
 

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So American manufacturing has been kneecapped by environmental regulations and overpriced wages? Gosh, who could have predicted that??? 😜 :rolleyes::mad:👎
 

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Well hopefully these jobless numbers keep going down. :cool:

Stocks inch up as jobless claims drop (msn.com)
Number can be made to tell any story you want.
Let looks at the data
1- CDC updates C19 testing protocol in January. Two things occurred in that update, who get tested and % of virus required to be positive
2 - With changes in testing less people are now being marked as positive, so cases go down
3 - cases go down, so states are reopening (or in CA - governor is about to be recalled and opens state up)
4 - business get to reopen and rehire staff
5 - unemployment goes down

Another point not discussed, the new bill democrats want, will increase unemployment benefits. folks are delaying claims until those benefits start. You only get so many weeks, so a % is delaying the claim so they can max out the benefits.

that bill includes $15 minimum wage as well. Look what went down in Long Beach. City council passes bill requiring large grocery chains to increase pay by $4 an hour. Kroger is now closing stores in Long Beach effective April 17.
 

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Number can be made to tell any story you want.
Let looks at the data
1- CDC updates C19 testing protocol in January. Two things occurred in that update, who get tested and % of virus required to be positive
2 - With changes in testing less people are now being marked as positive, so cases go down
3 - cases go down, so states are reopening (or in CA - governor is about to be recalled and opens state up)
4 - business get to reopen and rehire staff
5 - unemployment goes down

Another point not discussed, the new bill democrats want, will increase unemployment benefits. folks are delaying claims until those benefits start. You only get so many weeks, so a % is delaying the claim so they can max out the benefits.

that bill includes $15 minimum wage as well. Look what went down in Long Beach. City council passes bill requiring large grocery chains to increase pay by $4 an hour. Kroger is now closing stores in Long Beach effective April 17.
Good points. But like you say numbers can be made up to tell any story. Time will tell what actually happens. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Good points. But like you say numbers can be made up to tell any story. Time will tell what actually happens. 🤷‍♂️
This is going to sound bad, but I am saying it.
We can’t stop everyone from passing. This virus sucks and spreads quicker and causes harm to many. However we can’t save everyone. That is what select government officials are trying to do and it does not work. Trying to save 2% while hurting those that work pay check to pay check (these are the backbone of the economy) is not the right option.
 

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This is going to sound bad, but I am saying it.
We can’t stop everyone from passing. This virus sucks and spreads quicker and causes harm to many. However we can’t save everyone. That is what select government officials are trying to do and it does not work. Trying to save 2% while hurting those that work pay check to pay check (these are the backbone of the economy) is not the right option.
So selective demographic genocide, if it helps the economy is a viable solution ?

I do realize that's not exactly what you're suggesting, but it's a line that deserves careful consideration before crossing. I can think of numerous examples of certain groups or demographics of individuals who are costing the US economy vast amounts of money to keep alive.
What if there was genetic prediction testing, making it possible to simply eliminate these candidates prior to birth ? Imagine how much that would save ??
Not only that, but I'm sure it could be proved, that only birthing the best would produce superior future generations. Imagine how that would help society ??

Where do you start and where does it end ??

As I wrote, this isn't directed at your comment, because I clearly understand the sentiment you were conveying, this is a "What If" and "When".
 

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So selective demographic genocide, if it helps the economy is a viable solution ?

I do realize that's not exactly what you're suggesting, but it's a line that deserves careful consideration before crossing. I can think of numerous examples of certain groups or demographics of individuals who are costing the US economy vast amounts of money to keep alive.
What if there was genetic prediction testing, making it possible to simply eliminate these candidates prior to birth ? Imagine how much that would save ??
Not only that, but I'm sure it could be proved, that only birthing the best would produce superior future generations. Imagine how that would help society ??

Where do you start and where does it end ??

As I wrote, this isn't directed at your comment, because I clearly understand the sentiment you were conveying, this is a "What If" and "When".
Your 100% accurate. Not for that. But society better do a post virus debrief and figure out a better way next time.

Also - Some of those ‘what if’s’ are already possible. I worked at a place, we could take your DNA sequence and forecast your risk of disease. Then based some factors (diet, meds, etc), tell you want to do today to avoid that potential future issue. Cost per data run was over 500k
 

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Your 100% accurate. Not for that. But society better do a post virus debrief and figure out a better way next time.

Also - Some of those ‘what if’s’ are already possible. I worked at a place, we could take your DNA sequence and forecast your risk of disease. Then based some factors (diet, meds, etc), tell you want to do today to avoid that potential future issue. Cost per data run was over 500k
We'll be there for sure when AI starts making these decisions for us, thereby removing our burden of human guilt. The possibilities are endless and could be disguised in a multitude of ways, like a virus.
 

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I took this in Monday. I have a container has been sitting on the ship just outside the porch since January 21 we still can’t get it to a dock. That’s 100 grand in my money sitting there burning a hole in my wallet that I can’t collect on the worst part is I have 13 of them on the ocean. View attachment 969088
What do you do that requires that much inventory exposure?


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Why not ship your product through Port Hunemene in Ventura County. From what I understand there are much lower county fees there as well.
I have a friend in the crane business and when he buys a new crane always has it shipped into that port and he saves considerable amount of money.
 

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Because my container would have a considerable cost to go from Ventura to my freight forwarder in Gardena my material is in bundles and crates so it gets divan in Gardena then place on a flatbed to Las Vegas.
 

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Why not ship your product through Port Hunemene in Ventura County. From what I understand there are much lower county fees there as well.
I have a friend in the crane business and when he buys a new crane always has it shipped into that port and he saves considerable amount of money.
I was thinking the same thing but also realized that Hunemene is relatively small and probably not set up for those types of volumes. I would imaging It would be a bit of a challenge for multiple large ships and probably a traffic nightmare with the influx of Semi's and cargo trailers.
 

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News Flash !!! There were people dying before covid - just sayin - we need to establish the bottom acceptable number. or we'll never satisfy the left
 

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Havasu Surfer, we import and distribute aluminum patio cover material, all extruded and powder coated.

The main operation is in Las Vegas, NO taxes. So we will soon have over 1 mil in inventory, that will support this area including Havasu, and support three other distributors we have established. One in Reseda, Phoenix, Reno, and Ft. Worth TX.

So we planned on stocking 250K back in late 2019...Now we have to back fill the distributors when they run short most often due to this 3+ month lead time. It is a double edge sword. I am sure others on the boards have experienced the same. Growth is very rapid, but it will even out by late March. The distributors do container direct, so we do not touch it, but still sell it and as we are the licensed importing arm, have to deal with all of this.
 

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Wow how business has changed and evolved just to stay in business and remain competitive. Sounds like you got a strong stable business rolling along. Amazing what it cost the folks running these businesses just to stick around. I feel like that is entirely overlooked by employees as to how much owners are on the hook for. Wish you the best of luck!


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Why not ship your product through Port Hunemene in Ventura County. From what I understand there are much lower county fees there as well.
I have a friend in the crane business and when he buys a new crane always has it shipped into that port and he saves considerable amount of money.
Port Hueneme is mainly a RoRo (roll on roll off) Port not a container port. They mainly service car manufacturers and select heavy machinery customer's.
 
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