grumpy88
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Why dont they close the border and stop increasing housing ?why doesn't cal use salt water for pools and to flush toilets???
Why dont they close the border and stop increasing housing ?why doesn't cal use salt water for pools and to flush toilets???
it's more that we waist water,... shower water and laundry water should go into a tank , that water should be used to flush toilets... with a couple ounces of wash wax you can wash a car...you never know what you have till it's gone..... toilet paper for instanceBecause apparently that isn't enough since people are told they can only shower so many times a week and should limit their laundry, which no one is doing obviously.
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/06/08/new-california-water-law-restrictions-shower-laundry/
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-10/can-california-dramatically-cut-water-use-again
it's more that we waist water,... shower water and laundry water should go into a tank , that water should be used to flush toilets... with a couple ounces of wash wax you can wash a car...you never know what you have till it's gone..... toilet paper for instance
there idea is to have as many homeless as they can get....... when I was a kid, I seen a bum once... but he was gone the next day....but that was in the 50'sWhy dont they close the border and stop increasing housing ?
you're way better off not using soap on your skin,,,,,I know of some people who have Plumbed grey water and black water lines in their homes. Holding tanks for grey that get used for agriculture etc. Black goes to septic/sewer.
Problem is that you have to use hippie soaps etc lol.
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you're way better off not using soap on your skin,,,,,
There’s NO way that figure is accurate. Why would the EPA of all people or agencies grossly over exaggerate “typical” household daily usage? Straight up fear mongering.The Environmental Protection Agency reports that the typical American household uses over 300 gallons of water per day. To some people, that amount might not seem like a lot, but when you consider that there are over 130 million households in America, the combined usage is massive!
There’s NO way that figure is accurate. Why would the EPA of all people or agencies grossly over exaggerate “typical” household daily usage? Straight up fear mongering.
Exactly! Explosive China Buffet induced diarrhea aside, I’m not buying that figure.Eighty to one hundred gallons per day PER PERSON??? Seems crazy!
Water Q&A: How much water do I use at home each day? | U.S. Geological Survey
Learn how much water the average person uses every day, and what activities use the most water.www.usgs.gov
Exactly! Explosive China Buffet induced diarrhea aside, I’m not buying that figure.
not hard to check if you are on city water...just look at the bill, it tells water usage in gals.Eighty to one hundred gallons per day PER PERSON??? Seems crazy!
Water Q&A: How much water do I use at home each day? | U.S. Geological Survey
Learn how much water the average person uses every day, and what activities use the most water.www.usgs.gov
why doesn't cal use salt water for pools and to flush toilets???
The Environmental Protection Agency reports that the typical American household uses over 300 gallons of water per day. To some people, that amount might not seem like a lot, but when you consider that there are over 130 million households in America, the combined usage is massive!
No you cant use reclaimed water to fill your pool. Reclaimed or recycled water generally comes from wastewater treatment plants and contain contaminates(ie nitrates, phosphates, etc usually found in fertilizers) that wouldnt meet the EPA primary drinking water standards. Not only that, but youd be constantly chasing algae blooms because of the elevated levels of contaminates. And no, adding a ridiculous amount of chlorine wont decontaminate it. Your city should have a Consumer Confidence Report published on their website that outlines the water quality of said city.also out in that area of az, people that have lived there for years are having their wells dry up,... the farmers keep sucking the water table down with no stop in sight.... something has to happen,... one thing is AZ is gonna loose 40% of their water rights from the river... I bet you see a stop to lawns and pools soon to come... havasu has a 2 meter system,... house water is more than irrigation water right now, because irrigation water returns to the ground..... not positive on pool water if it can be filled with irrigation water though....some one who knows can chime in,... I've been in a constant battle with my wife about putting a pool at our new home, she said either you put the pool in or I will.... I said the day I see a permit for a pool...... the house goes up for sale...she said,... you sell everyting anyways , so why blame it on the pool....
The current infrastructure wouldnt support it. Major metropolitan cities have a hard enough time budgeting to replace +90year old mains.......why doesn't cal use salt water for pools and to flush toilets???
There’s NO way that figure is accurate. Why would the EPA of all people or agencies grossly over exaggerate “typical” household daily usage? Straight up fear mongering.
You guys cant be that dense lolEighty to one hundred gallons per day PER PERSON??? Seems crazy!
Water Q&A: How much water do I use at home each day? | U.S. Geological Survey
Learn how much water the average person uses every day, and what activities use the most water.www.usgs.gov
You guys cant be that dense lol
I used 5,000 at my primary and 18,000 on my second home (for compaction on my shop foundation). That's 383 gallon per person!.. The 5K in AZ cost me $73.92 and the 18K in UT cost $44... What do I win?
Hey, I resemble that remark!You guys cant be that dense lol
it's more that we waist water,... shower water and laundry water should go into a tank , that water should be used to flush toilets... with a couple ounces of wash wax you can wash a car...you never know what you have till it's gone..... toilet paper for instance
We should just send it to Mexico asap instead of storing it. if we owe them 100 gals and 10% evaporates on us while we hold it we still owe them 100 gal.Actually, it ends up in Mexico at the Morelos dam and gets dispersed from there. As far as I'm aware there is a certain amount of water that is mandated to cross the border.
I know Mead did a heavy release some 10 or so years ago and eventually it did reach the gulf but literally was just a trickle(was a tv show on it). There was a lot of controversy about the water released however it was water supposedly owned by Mexico being stored in Mead.
We should just send it to Mexico asap instead of storing it. if we owe them 100 gals and 10% evaporates on us while we hold it we still owe them 100 gal.
You ever seen how much river makes it to the sea of cortez?
They have only done it a couple times since 2014. It aint enough to even put a dent in the lake here
The wifey took us down this route and i can honestly say im so glad.I know of some people who have Plumbed grey water and black water lines in their homes. Holding tanks for grey that get used for agriculture etc. Black goes to septic/sewer.
Problem is that you have to use hippie soaps etc lol.
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I said this last month..the river is flowing to the sea of cortez again. Its planned, been a plan. There is a area of the desert down there that is dying.Did you notice all the tractor work done in this video? All most like they expected it.
I have a lot invested here and depend on the local water supply for my business, but Ill be honest with you im kinda glad to see this. I know a lot about farming and ranching and 98% of farms and ranches are being done wrong and wasting a lot of water. They can reduce approx. 80% with better profitability, how ever it takes more brain power and management skills. They farm the lazy way and its costing all of us.
Whats more important? Water or up to 10% ethanol in our fuel? Water so stop sucking our aquifers dry to irrigate the dam corn.
why doesn't cal use salt water for pools and to flush toilets???
Salt water is very tough to deal with at the treatment facilities. It would just take higher water bills to cover the cost to byuild new treatment facilities. Water softeners are a Big issue for treatment plants.
As little as possible, basically i sit back and let people pay me to store liability's. its an interesting business when my closest competitor is the dumpster.I'd sure like to know more about what you do...
Sounds like a lot of blah blah stroke stroke
LOL, I've had him on ignore for 10 years,,he's like the neighbors dog...BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK.................................rrrr is for some unknown reason, acting like a complete douche here. He's normally not like that. Maybe too much to drink?
He's not posting anything that hasn't already been said. He's not bringing anything new to this thread.
Echo 4x4 needed.whats the ramp situation at mead now,....
You can Gray water all you want, and probably should. But The fact still remains that it has been half a century since CA built its last storage and distribution capability. And it’s population has nearly tripled. And the southwest in general (adding in Vegas and Phoenix) has quintupled. Failing to keep your infrastructure in line with your population growth is a a failure of governance and a criminal misuse of tax monies.
you think we have it bad? In the PNW they have just approved a program to start tearing down their dams. While that doesn’t affect us much directly, the original bureau of reclamation and Central Valley water authority plan for southern cal was to send excess water from the flood prone farmlands of southern and central Oregon down to SoCal. They got as far as phase 1 or three planned phases when jerry brown scrapped the rest of it back in 1970 because he thought by canceling the infrastructure it would slow down the growth in CA. Anyway, with the PNW tearing down it’s dams, it would make it even harder to re instate and finish building the original phase 2 and phase 3 projects from bureau reclamation and Central Valley authority.
not sure how this is going to play out but you can’t water 60M people with infrastructure built for 20M. Even with gray water.
-Peter
Your "facts" are a bit off...
Diamond Valley was completed in 2002.
So even though CA has added to it's water storage, it's probably still not enough.
We could definitely use more storage, but the enviro nuts make it real hard to do.
The left wants to tear down dams, but you can bet they will still be washing their cars.
It's ok. It will rain and snow and fill everything back up again. It's kinna the whole purpose of the system, to have water in reserve for dry spells.
It's worked for close to 100 years so far. I'm sure it will work until mother nature takes us out, and the next generation of humans has to start all over again. [emoji6]
Kinda like the Dinosaurs ????Your "facts" are a bit off...
Diamond Valley was completed in 2002.
So even though CA has added to it's water storage, it's probably still not enough.
We could definitely use more storage, but the enviro nuts make it real hard to do.
The left wants to tear down dams, but you can bet they will still be washing their cars.
It's ok. It will rain and snow and fill everything back up again. It's kinna the whole purpose of the system, to have water in reserve for dry spells.
It's worked for close to 100 years so far. I'm sure it will work until mother nature takes us out, and the next generation of humans has to start all over again.
Kinda like the Dinosaurs ????