Lemoore California Explosion

[90 Laveycraft]

Damn...

 

[DRYHEAT]

Damn is an understatement.

 

[traquer]

What caused the explosion?

 

[HTTP404]

How does that happen with a water tank?

 

[c_land]

Welding inside?

 

[Icky]

I first thought it was waste water and maybe they had methane explode. But it sounds like it was fresh water in all the articles I saw, which confuses my small brain

 

[4Waters]

Fixed it because someone's feelings got hurt, that person should know that in reality I ment no harm in my post as I have been posting here for quite a while.

 

[4Waters]

If you look close there is fire inside that tank, you can see it just as it's flipping over. There are explanations as to how something flammable got into the water but what ignited it inside of the tank?

 

[outboard_256]

I heard they were welding on it

 

[4Waters]

I heard they were welding on it

Well that would explain the ignition.

 

[DRYHEAT]

I would imagine there’s an air space at the top of that water tank, just needs a little fuel and spark.

 

[DRYHEAT]

I guess I won’t park so close to the water tanks at work now.

 

[rrrr]

I would imagine there’s an air space at the top of that water tank, just needs a little fuel and spark.

I'm guessing from the presence of the boom lift, the welding was being done above the water level. I don't know how flammable gases became concentrated in the void space, but it's pretty clear that's what happened.

 

[4Waters]

I'm guessing from the presence of the boom lift, the welding was being done above the water level. I don't know how flammable gases became concentrated in the void space, but it's pretty clear that's what happened.

It's not unheard of for water that's pumped out of the ground to have methane in it.

 

[bonesfab]

It doesn't take much to blow up a tank. I blew up a gas tank in my face that had been empty for 3-4 months. Previous day I drilled and tapped the fuel outlet bigger. Next day installed the tank and took one 10/32 screw out of the sending unit to hook up a ground wire. Bbq lighter to the shrink tube and we had a big bang. No fire just kaboom. Blew the t-bucket body into pieces and I went to the er for some stitches. Fill the fucking things to the top with water now. No more boom,

 

[DRYHEAT]

It doesn't take much to blow up a tank. I blew up a gas tank in my face that had been empty for 3-4 months. Previous day I drilled and tapped the fuel outlet bigger. Next day installed the tank and took one 10/32 screw out of the sending unit to hook up a ground wire. Bbq lighter to the shrink tube and we had a big bang. No fire just kaboom. Blew the t-bucket body into pieces and I went to the er for some stitches. Fill the fucking things to the top with water now. No more boom,

Could you have purged the tank with Argon?
Actually after rereading that I guess I wouldn’t of thought any better just melting some shrink tube damn.

 

[bonesfab]

Could you have purged the tank with Argon?
Actually after rereading that I guess I wouldn’t of thought any better just melting some shrink tube damn.

I am sure that would have helped. Didn't think anything of it. It was empty for a while. First words out of my mouth were " There goes all the profit on this job."

 

[shunter2005]

My wife's cousin's husband was killed the same way. He was supposed to do some welding on the top of their church water tank. I never got all the details, but when he started welding, the entire top of the tank blew off. Tossed him over 300 ft. in the air. Methane is damn powerful.

 

[BHC Vic]

Brother Dion Jones. May he rip

 

[Flying_Lavey]

It kinda looks like the tank has a bladder inside it for the water (not unheard of in smaller tanks and I'd imagine has a lot of advantages to having such). If that's the case, it really makes you wonder how gas was in between the tank and bladder and how did it get there....

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[DRYHEAT]

Hopefully they’ll be able to piece together what happened and learn from it. Tough deal for the families involved.

 

[Howardflat]

Rumor I heard was the water in the area when treated with chlorine off gassed hydrogen sulphide which is flammable. Which has a very rotten egg smell in large PPM.

 

[BHC Vic]

Dion posted on the carpenters fb page a very short time before the accident. He had his 13 year old son on site in the trailer. It’s crazy how quickly a day can change. I have a lot of emotions going on today. Sucks

 

[Waffles]

I first thought it was waste water and maybe they had methane explode. But it sounds like it was fresh water in all the articles I saw, which confuses my small brain

This

It's not unheard of for water that's pumped out of the ground to have methane in it.

This is what im going to go with also. I know that some shallow wells pull methane from the ground (well house explosions). This may have been an accumulation of naturally occurring methane.

 

[BHC Vic]

Donate to Lemoore water tank explosion tragedy, organized by Mary Camacho

My sister Paulette Jones and her 3 kids (Vanessa, Lizzie , Phoenix) lost their husba… Mary Camacho needs your support for Lemoore water tank explosion tragedy

www.gofundme.com

 

[Big B Hova]

Very sad. Even more sad to have his son onsite when it happened.

 

[Waffles]

I can already see CAL-OSHA having a field day with this. It’s common practice to test the air before you enter or work on a tank. Really sad situation that could’ve been avoided with a sniffer

 

[Havasu blue label]

Always test air and ventilation now days everybody is a certified welder rip in peace

 

[FreeBird236]

It kinda looks like the tank has a bladder inside it for the water (not unheard of in smaller tanks and I'd imagine has a lot of advantages to having such). If that's the case, it really makes you wonder how gas was in between the tank and bladder and how did it get there....

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I'm going to guess that's a 3 -5 million gal. tank, not likely to have any kind of bladder, still it obviously had some kind of gas build-up.

 

[Looking Glass]

Somebody shook the can

So this is how you your Post Count is so High?

 

[4Waters]

So this is how you your Post Count is so High?

Actually when I posted that I didn't know anyone died. I'll fix it.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

So this is how you your Post Count is so High?

You have been here 6 months and have 3600... He's been here approaching 5 years with 16.5K. Do the = MATHS as to who actually posts more on a daily basis.

You actually post more than I do.

 

[Looking Glass]

You have been here 6 months and have 3600... He's been here approaching 5 years with 16.5K. Do the = MATHS as to who astually posts more on a daily basis.

You actually post more than I do.

Squeaky, it was All In Fun. Slow Down. Everything is under Control here.


You have your Hands Full Posting in every other Thread Out There.

 

[Looking Glass]

Actually when I posted that I didn't know anyone died. I'll fix it.

It was just Messing Around here, SORRY!


P.S. lof already has this Covered.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Squeaky, it was All In Fun. Slow Down. Everything is under Control here.


You have your Hands Full Posting in every other Thread Out There.

By yore post count it seems that you are doing a better job of that than me...

 

[HB2Havasu]

That’s what I call a “Bad Career Day” lol

 

[rrrr]

Rumor I heard was the water in the area when treated with chlorine off gassed hydrogen sulphide which is flammable. Which has a very rotten egg smell in large PPM.

Can't happen.

Chlorine treatment of hydrogen sulfide infused water destroys the chemical bond between hydrogen and sulphur. The hydrogen bonds to the chlorine molecule, and the result is elemental sulphur, which precipitates out of the water as a solid. The sulphur can then be removed by normal filtration.

Methane is the most likely cause of the explosion.

 

[Waffles]

So this is how you your Post Count is so High?

 

[riverroyal]

fellow pipefitter and welder. RIP.
No bladder, typical storage tank. Some type of gases inside. Could be ground methane, numerous things.

 

[SBMech]

Actually when I posted that I didn't know anyone died. I'll fix it.

He's a shit poster, who gives a fuck what he thinks.

Fucker is nothing but insults, accusations, and I believe he's confused about everything.

 

[4Waters]

He's a shit poster, who gives a fuck what he thinks.

Fucker is nothing but insults, accusations, and I believe he's confused about everything.

I wasn't worried but you know how callouts go

 

[rrrr]

I wasn't worried but you know how callouts go

Just what the hell are you insinuating?

 

[Waffles]

Interesting…..

Said Olson: “I can’t talk about what the welder did or didn’t do. That’s part of their investigation, but (the tank) definitely had some type of gas buildup.”

Olson added that city officials are now monitoring a nearby tank, but have not discovered any gas in that structure, although it held “the same water from the same well.”

https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article252338343.html?fbclid=IwAR22aYcdsXIz_h0UIQpe1_YOTyLi3O1cXxgKWID8IalwZcwyHR69U-O-nx0

 

[riverroyal]

what the welder did or didnt do? He is a welder, not a safety manager. It should say what the contractor did or did not do

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

what the welder did or didnt do? He is a welder, not a safety manager. It should say what the contractor did or did not do

They cant say, that is part of the investigation.