From the pics they look like they were returned then lost.
From what I could understand, they are "unaccounted for" which could mean that they either came in and are not associated with a real person, or who knows.Saw an article this morning.
California lost 10.9 million of the 22million mail-in ballots they sent out.
Gee, wonder who those 10 million ballots were for?
Think of it as a donation to preserving democracy
Holy shit. How many total voters does California even have???????
There’s like 6.5 million licensed drivers in LA county alone. I know some will be under 18, but gives an idea that it’s quite a lot
Sorry, not following this logic. How could that possibly accomplish anything ?
That was my exact thinking as well. What the theory was, basically, was only worry about the fed. I don't know how the technicalities were supposed to work. In my mind, I figured they were like the old ScanTron tests from when I was a kid, just fed through a machine. The machine would register which bubble was filled in for what question. "If" the ballots were set up the same, they could be "scored", as the machine itself doesn't care what bubble corresponds to what name. The signature verification and such are all human things.
Close to 22 million, hence the over 21 million main in ballots. Of those by the way, about 15.4 million of those were received and accepted, with less than 90K being rejected for a multitude of reasons, like non-matching signature and no signature at all being the top 2.
So there's nothing on these ballots that identify them as even being from Arizona ? Or any particular location ?
In Arizona you need to show physical proof of US Citizenship to be eligible to vote in a state or local election.
azfree.org
Yep, I can imagine with the shit at stake, there are forgeries that are impossible to detect, and for all we know the fucking CIA and FBI could be making them by the millions.Close to 22 million, hence the over 21 million main in ballots. Of those by the way, about 15.4 million of those were received and accepted, with less than 90K being rejected for a multitude of reasons, like non-matching signature and no signature at all being the top 2.
Given that 17.8 million voted total, some still voted in person, I can't make any math works that gets close to 10 million were missing and unaccounted for.
But that's the extent of the effort I'm going expend on this topic.
In Arizona you need to show physical proof of US Citizenship to be eligible to vote in a state or local election.
The federal government, due to a ruling by the Supreme Court, only requires one to swear under penalties of perjury that they are a US Citizen to vote in a Federal Election. Physical proof of US Citizenship is not required under this ruling.
Arizona has Federal only ballots for those who have registered to vote using the Federal voter registration form, but have not provided physical proof of US Citizenship, a requirement to vote in Arizona elections.
The Proliferation of the “Federal Only Voter” List: How Arizona Ended up with 11,600 Voters in 2020 Who Have Never Proven Their Citizenship - Arizona Free Enterprise Club
A look at the the complicated history of how we began bifurcating our voter registration system, leading to where we are today
With respect to military personnel being given a Federal only ballot, they are either 1) non-citizens (you do not need to be a US Citizen to enlist) and illegally registered to vote for Federal races in Arizona using the Federal form, or 2) they are US Citizens yet chose not to, or failed to show proof of Citizenship and are satisfied with just voting in Federal races. There is no “Federal Only“ ballot for non-residents for if you are not a resident, you can not vote in Arizona under any circumstances.
16-101 - Qualifications of registrant; definition
www.azleg.gov
The military needs to provide a means to vote from whatever base they are at. Obviously there will be a few that would have issues like when on missions, but that's just the way it is.
Given all the different county, school district, improvement district and city jurisdictions per state out there, the number of ballots would be unfathomable to print, track and process. There were over 100 different ballots in Arizona alone depending upon where one lived in the state. I suspect there are 3 or 4 hundred different ballots in California. Now if a large base has soldiers from all 50 states it would be rife for failure.
We wire millions of dollars, deposit checks, file taxes and do all sorts of safe and secure transactions online every day. Why are we still using a paper and a pen which has proven throughout history to be less safe and more easily manipulated than modern technology? People assume that any non-instantaneous result must be full of fraud, yet those same people want to implement in person hand counted voting procedures that would take weeks if not months to tally?
Why go backwards?
The military does make it very easy for deployed personnel to vote.
You Can Vote From Anywhere
Service members, eligible family members and U.S. citizens overseas have the right to vote, and DOD has the tools and resources to help them do so — from anywhere in the world.www.defense.gov
and yet...millions of dollars are stolen via cyber crime daily as well. Secure my ass!
I say closing the doors that invite fraud as we implement measures to secure our elections is moving Forward, NOT Backwards.
Voters in Arizona have been voting without having to be present in a specific location for thirty years. In 2020 it was 89 percent of all votes cast.and yet...millions of dollars are stolen via cyber crime daily as well. Secure my ass!
Cybercriminals Stole $6.9 Billion In 2021
All I ask is that you cast your vote in person with an I.D......maybe vote weeks in advance........scanning ballots via "secure" scanners is Ok by me........some of us believe that securing voting integrity is well worth the wait..matter of fact, Priority One.......what's the hurry when the final impact has such profound impacts on the future of our nation.
I say closing the doors that invite fraud as we implement measures to secure our elections is moving Forward, NOT Backwards.
Honest people strive for honest elections. That's why.
"secure as possible"...... this is rich coming from the one who advocates voting via the internet.Voters in Arizona have been voting without having to be present in a specific location for thirty years. In 2020 it was 89 percent of all votes cast.
Going back in time to in-person only voting is not going to happen as a majority of voters will reject candidates who back that.
Given that fact, seems to me one can die on the sword of the past or embrace what the citizens want and make voting more accessible and as secure as possible.
Unless of course the real goal is not honest elections, but voter suppression by creating false barriers to vote under the guise of “security”.
Demanding in person only voting is a barrier."secure as possible"...... this is rich coming from the one who advocates voting via the internet.
Spoken like the true Liberal you are. ..... "False Barriers" LMFAO......you Libs and your non-substantiated excuses and fantasy's really crack me up!
Verified for qualified absentee's no problem...
So you now admit voting via mail is not secure? Agreed, security with each is non existent.
Voters in Arizona have been voting without having to be present in a specific location for thirty years. In 2020 it was 89 percent of all votes cast.
Going back in time to in-person only voting is not going to happen as a majority of voters will reject candidates who back that.
Given that fact, seems to me one can die on the sword of the past or embrace what the citizens want and make voting more accessible and as secure as possible.
Unless of course the real goal is not honest elections, but voter suppression by creating false barriers to vote under the guise of “security”.
This is how they push the boundaries. Move the Goalposts. Make the new abnormal, normal/acceptable. Ballot harvesting/Mail in ballots. Steal the living shit out of everything not nailed down, Move on to the next grift. "Secure online technology..."
