Magic boats, updates?

[riverroyal]

Its been quiet. Whats the latest, is it happening?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Its been quiet. Whats the latest, is it happening?

Lol and you were concerned Speed cars lost their hype?

 

[riverroyal]

Lol and you were concerned Speed cars lost their hype?

Im not concerned. Im not in the market for either.
Im am curious though

 

[JB in so cal]

Fag

 

[guest hs]

Come on now they were build a dozen a year

 

[RiverDave]

He sold all the ones he built. I think it’s hard to keep decent employees right now.

I will hit him up to see if there’s any news

 

[USMC2010]

He sold all he built yet no big photo spreads? That's weird.

 

[Bpracing1127]

He sold all the ones he built. I think it’s hard to keep decent employees right now.

I will hit him up to see if there’s any news

How many were built?

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

How many were built?

Saw a blue one being worked on at saleen last year, and visited the building Preston bought next to mvd that was going to be the showroom, have not heard anything since.

 

[AZLineman]

If you’re talking about Ron Moyes the wheels are turning. Just rounding up the right peeps.

 

[JFMFG]

I’d assume the labor shortage of good workers is what’s pumping the brakes.

 

[BUDMAN]

He sold all he built yet no big photo spreads? That's weird.

Or Heard about. Not even seen

 

[BUDMAN]

Maybe they call them magic, because nobody ever sees them

 

[USMC2010]

Maybe they call them magic, because nobody ever sees them

There was one teaser thread with barely a handful of pics then crickets. I don't get it.

 

[BUDMAN]

There was one teaser thread with barely a handful of pics then crickets. I don't get it.

Wasn’t that thread called “abracadabra“

 

[Ziggy]

Wasn’t that thread called “abracadabra“

Pooffffffff

 

[Wizard29]

They are taking deposits for new boats, but they still need to figure out their manufacturing process, address design issues (up to and including how the crankshafts are designed), and complete thorough long term testing. They'll be using those deposits to help fund all of the above efforts.

Who's in?

 

[Bpracing1127]

They are taking deposits for new boats, but they still need to figure out their manufacturing process, address design issues (up to and including how the crankshafts are designed), and complete thorough long term testing. They'll be using those deposits to help fund all of the above efforts.

Who's in?

I see what you did there

 

[Wizard29]

I see what you did there

A "pummeling" is on the way, I'm sure...

 

[riverroyal]

I talked with Horizon maybe 2 years ago on this, could have been longer. Id like to see what was delivered. When they got to 175k I lost interest in buying, but still wanted to see new ones on the water.

Crazy that you cant find labor in that town. I would think if the salary was high enough you could steal from others or bring in from out of town?

 

[Bpracing1127]

I talked with Horizon maybe 2 years ago on this, could have been longer. Id like to see what was delivered. When they got to 175k I lost interest in buying, but still wanted to see new ones on the water.

Crazy that you cant find labor in that town. I would think if the salary was high enough you could steal from others or bring in from out of town?

what i was thinking too, for the right money you can steal nordic, DCB, ect

 

[attitude]

With housing getting expensive in Havasu you would think it would be hard for workers to move to Havasu and afford it?

 

[RiverDave]

How many were built?

I want to say somewhere around ten or eleven actually.. it was more than I thought

 

[RiverDave]

There was one teaser thread with barely a handful of pics then crickets. I don't get it.

I don’t either..

 

[HCP3]

With housing getting expensive in Havasu you would think it would be hard for workers to move to Havasu and afford it?

Covid made working from home much easier and acceptable. In other words, not many people work in the city where they live.

 

[attitude]

Covid made working from home much easier and acceptable. In other words, many people don't work in the city where they live.

That is true and would only help to raise the Havasu home prices. However, I don’t think people building boats are working from home and I doubt the Havasu pay rate has risen as fast as the housing market.

 

[riverroyal]

On another note, when I drive by Ultra they seem to have some every nice looking hulls sitting there. Are they getting these out the door? A few looked great from the street as far as gel colors.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

On another note, when I drive by Ultra they seem to have some every nice looking hulls sitting there. Are they getting these out the door? A few looked great from the street as far as gel colors.

The problem is they have been sitting there for years

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

They are taking deposits for new boats, but they still need to figure out their manufacturing process, address design issues (up to and including how the crankshafts are designed), and complete thorough long term testing. They'll be using those deposits to help fund all of the above efforts.

Who's in?

Can you them in other colors than orange?

 

[185EZ]

If you’re talking about Ron Moyes the wheels are turning. Just rounding up the right peeps.

Something new?
Talk has been going on for years and even building them in mexico
Ron is a nice guy away from work, working for him is another story
Burned a lot of bridges on the way out. Getting product might be another issue

 

[riverroyal]

hulls laid up in mex,,,,hmmmm.. Not the worse idea

 

[185EZ]

hulls laid up in mex,,,,hmmmm.. Not the worse idea

When Magic was in Havasu half the labor force was from mexico lol
Only 3 hour drive from here to cross the border
I bet code restrictions for a shop would be a lot less there.
Fire department was always showing up at the old building. A lot of things were grandfathered in.

 

[D19]

Covid made collecting government checks and sitting at home much easier and acceptable. In other words, not many people work.

Fixed it for you. LOL

 

[Havasu blue label]

Shit the million dollar homes in havasu are Mexican built gunite guys come from Peoria az as well as lath and plaster guys meet the guys at chicos tacos .

 

[RiverDave]

If you’re talking about Ron Moyes the wheels are turning. Just rounding up the right peeps.

He doesn’t have anything to do with magic anymore to my knowledge?

 

[Gelcoater]

what i was thinking too, for the right money you can steal nordic, DCB, ect

From Nordic maybe. From DCB?

The whole moving to the armpit of hell not withstanding, there’s the concept of actually working in that kind of heat.
I know for a fact DCB has central heat and air conditioning in their spraybooth, and that’s to deal with So Cal heat.

Once we move to Havasu heat? Forgetaboutit.

8 minutes at 77degrees.
Guess what happens at 40 degrees above that 77 number

Havasu is without a doubt one of the most inhospitable places to do FRP construction.

Tony at DCB could offer me less than Preston and I’d be shooting DCBs!!

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

They are taking deposits for new boats, but they still need to figure out their manufacturing process, address design issues (up to and including how the crankshafts are designed), and complete thorough long term testing. They'll be using those deposits to help fund all of the above efforts.

Who's in?

Not to mention funding their off shore race team and building those first.
All in the name of R&D of course.

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

hulls laid up in mex,,,,hmmmm.. Not the worse idea

If Speed cars can be built in China, why not Magic boats in Mexico.

 

[RiverDave]

I talked with Horizon maybe 2 years ago on this, could have been longer. Id like to see what was delivered. When they got to 175k I lost interest in buying, but still wanted to see new ones on the water.

Crazy that you cant find labor in that town. I would think if the salary was high enough you could steal from others or bring in from out of town?

Very hard to find labor out here and historically if it landed here they’d all end up working for Nordic.

It’s been awhile since I have been close to the upper management of Nordic so I can’t say if it’s still that way. What I can say is virtually everyone is hiring out here without much luck..

 

[RiverDave]

From Nordic maybe. From DCB?

The whole moving to the armpit of hell not withstanding, there’s the concept of actually working in that kind of heat.
I know for a fact DCB has central heat and air conditioning in their spraybooth, and that’s to deal with So Cal heat.

Once we move to Havasu heat? Forgetaboutit.

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8 minutes at 77degrees.
Guess what happens at 40 degrees above that 77 number

Havasu is without a doubt one of the most inhospitable places to do FRP construction.

Tony at DCB could offer me less than Preston and I’d be shooting DCBs!!

And that.. lol

 

[retaocleg]

And that.. lol

where the big girls paint

housing prices kill the low wage havasu mentallity too.......

the heat while gelcoating is no joke, and while making busy graphics makes the customer happy, it doesnt seem to be an issue till there isnt anyone left to do it no more tough guys left willing to do it........gonna be interesting going forward

 

[RiverDave]

where the big girls paint

housing prices kill the low wage havasu mentallity too.......

Unfortunately that is very true..

 

[stephenkatsea]

Building boats in Mexico under a Maquiladora arrangement we once had the miscellaneous parts for the 31’ Innovator Sportfishers manufactured in Otay Mesa MX. Overall it was not a good experience. Huge amount of rework required, to the extent there was no savings. Also, getting our molds out of Mexico was not an easy process.

 

[530RL]

Brunswick has a 200,000 foot plant in Reynosa Mexico on the border with Texas that they are expanding to 385,000 feet.

Brunswick Corp. to Expand Mexico Facility

The builder will add 150,000 square feet of manufacturing space to its Reynosa plant, which will boost production by nearly 60 percent when completed in late 2023.

www.tradeonlytoday.com

 

[retaocleg]

On another note, when I drive by Ultra they seem to have some every nice looking hulls sitting there. Are they getting these out the door? A few looked great from the street as far as gel colors.

word has it they may or may not have help in the graphic dept, helping in the pattern making and layout...........might or might not have some experience in gel helping to eliminate repairs?

 

[retaocleg]

Brunswick has a 200,000 foot plant in Reynosa Mexico on the border with Texas that they are expanding to 385,000 feet.

Brunswick Corp. to Expand Mexico Facility

The builder will add 150,000 square feet of manufacturing space to its Reynosa plant, which will boost production by nearly 60 percent when completed in late 2023.

www.tradeonlytoday.com

they had a plant in kingman making bayliners in the 90's, now has an electic supply house and a bunch of divided, open sq feet

 

[retaocleg]

there is a boat/glass shop opening in kingman, az.....as of late last year, building is already a done deal....cooler temps, closer to attainable living costs for wages offerred...........building for more than one company now, about those cold temps..........

 

[RiverDave]

there is a boat/glass shop opening in kingman, az.....as of late last year, building is already a done deal....cooler temps, closer to attainable living costs for wages offerred...........building for more than one company now, about those cold temps..........

I would love to hear more about this!

 

[530RL]

they had a plant in kingman making bayliners in the 90's, now has an electic supply house and a bunch of divided, open sq feet

The President of both Bayliner and Sea Ray group at Brunswick is a great guy and former mod-VP driver.

His father was also President of Sea Ray in the late 70’s and early 80’s.

 

[retaocleg]

The President of both Bayliner and Sea Ray group at Brunswick is a great guy and former mod-VP driver.

His father was also President of Sea Ray in the late 70’s and early 80’s.

they were huge back in the 90's...........owned more than boat companies........OMC, no?

how about a bayliner offshore racing team? who knew about that? WTF?that is current, i think........

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