If that deck were a bit more shallow, losing that first step above the gunnel, it would be very similar to my old Cole Super Hawk deck design.
Nope. I'm roofing the out building and needed to move the boat to a safe place..OH OH, hope it's not on it's way to it's final resting place
I tried giving it to @cofooter but he doesn't like the looks or style of the boat.Oh so it's still on the "Things I'm going to restore" list ? I've got one of those in my Havasu garage too, yup, any day -- or year or decade now
But, it's on the list.
Yep. I'm serious. I've since become accustomed to her looks so I've made plans for the old battle ship. I only hope I live long enough to ge her done.You can't be serious, that's an awesome looking boat and if I were ---- Nope, no way, not even
Yep. I'm serious. I've since become accustomed to her looks so I've made plans for the old battle ship. I only hope I live long enough to ge her done.
Did this have a turbo motor and get insurance totaled at some point? I think I did interior work on it.
Yes on the turbo I'll find pix.
Charly Ward said the time frame puts Brent at 16 years of age for this boat when first finished.. Lee agreed but what do I know. Also heard a story of a shot gun used on the mold or two hulls that were at the shop. Then again. this is what was said at the ski races several years ago. IDK.
She's a great looking ride and not yet another 70-80's clone of a clone and I'd love to see that gal back on the water, hope it works out for you.
Has @cofooter sought help ?
I'm wanting to get my Cole Night Hawk wet again too, figured it would be a retirement project --- Oh My, and here I am 10 years retired and --- time sure does fly
It’s a cool boat and the mystery gives us more to talk about which makes it cooler. I do know it used to say Fast Company on the transom.Yes on the turbo I'll find pix.
Charly Ward said the time frame puts Brent at 16 years of age for this boat when first finished.. Lee agreed but what do I know. Also heard a story of a shot gun used on the mold or two hulls that were at the shop. Then again. this is what was said at the ski races several years ago. IDK.
Interior such as seats? When the boat was painted by Paint 'n place in Placentia they left the seats sit outside and the fbric is ruined / sun burnt . So much for being the painters to the stars or so that was their claim to fame.!
The boat had a bow rail on it and as I recall it was a brownish color before the repain.
As much as your presence is appreciated here on rdp. at some point it's time to step away from the key board. and get things done.
And to prove how much I appreciate your participation along with your humor, not to mention your above average knowledge of electricity. I found some more pro am / eliminator pix 4 your viewing pleasure.As much as your presence is appreciated here on rdp. at some point it's time to step away from the key board. and get things done.
Never heard about it being totaled or about insurance but did hear it lifted it's tail during deceleration and rolled over at castaic. Most of it time was spent at pine lake I hear.
You are not the only one to have driven it or had a story to tell. @ djunkie said he drove it at Elsinore and river dave claimed that he saw it for sale in the trader at some point in time which never happened.
Yes that’s the boat and story. A guy bought it I think as a total ( I think) and put it back together. He took it to Ambrose for interior and he called me. Because of the carbs and or exhaust it was a busy cover but there was no money in it and I got them to leave the flame arrestees and carbs exposed.
I know (Well my eyes tell me anyway) damn well Cole copied that upper deck step for the Super Hawk, then just ditched the lower step. There's my old SH below, the Night Hawk edges are more "Euro" rounded.
Matt Rose is the guy I bought it from and is or was a friend of Djunkies. Matt had a shop across from ours off of Miller and Mira Loma and the boat sat out front for the longest time before he got it going. I remember my brother commenting on how ugly it was and we should tow it to the scrap yard across the way.
Ambrose is a hot rod trimmer. He would do boats sometimes and would sub some work to me.Matt Rose is the guy I bought it from and is or was a friend of Djunkies. Matt had a shop across from ours off of Miller and Mira Loma and the boat sat out front for the longest time before he got it going. I remember my brother commenting on how ugly it was and we should tow it to the scrap yard across the way.
Who is Ambrose? I'm guessing paint 'n place?
If my memory serves me, Matt bought the boat in the mid '90's and I from him in '02 it's been sitting covered up in a hangar other than the 6 months when it was sent off to a Havasu boat shop to get it running and on the water. this never happened so back in a hangar it went.
It would be after north ridge earthquake so mid 90s would be correct. This Matt guy could have bought it from the flipper. Sorry I can’t tie it to a specific event that would narrow it down. Sean might be a little more Specific. Seems I had knowledge of the boat before it got there or it went somewhere and I knew it. Could it have been at Burbank Custom Marine during this period?post so cal earth
If my memory serves me, Matt bought the boat in the mid '90's and I from him in '02 it's been sitting covered up in a hangar other than the 6 months when it was sent off to a Havasu boat shop to get it running and on the water. this never happened so back in a hangar it went.
Do you recall the year that you worked on it? I'll call Matt when I get the chance to see what he remembers. Thanks for your time and the information that you've provided.
If anyone ever asks me again I'm just gunna punch 'em in the nose.
I sent Matt a text this morning and have yet to here back. Since the original, original owner in the second sense owned Burbank fence company that might make sense. i'll wait for Matt to call or try getting hold of Steve Brakett that is if he is still with us.
Now that I think about it. All the time I've spent yappin 'bout this damn boat I could have finished it up and been on the water.
To review --- oh never mind, I lost track of which of the two you still have
Who raced the 236 Pro-Am ? You don't have that one anymore or never did right ?
So you're going to restore the Schi-Am, the one that will toss you on your head when you let off ?
Being a bit more serious, I really think the lines on the Schi-Am are cool, different, but stylish, I can't figure out what others don't like about it.
I think that boat is a head turner, I see Schiadas and Howards and Spectras, all very nice boats, all rather (This will get me slayed where I sleep) boring.
Besides, some times the ugliest boat sets records and wins a trophy. Take the case of Bill Cooper, who in 1967 took a 17' Formula Jr., a model I was very familiar with, as it was my 2nd boat I'd bought right after High School, and made it famous --- or made people realize just how crazy he was.
Wonder if this is where Reggie got the idea for the nose on his Fountains ?
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How in the hell did you find my family photos?Not sure which year Formula, but the boat was racing with that configuration by 1966 at least. If you look at the other pics of that boat I posted in the "When crazy men raced ugly boats" thread, you'll notice the engine is right over the top of that skeg ahead of the driver. That boat is essentially a straight inboard, what you're seeing isn't so much a surface drive as just strut supports for the long shaft. The rudder is aft of the prop.
The idea of the driver sitting so far back and the hapless co-pilot riding semi-submerged was to keep the prop in the water going over the waves.
Now here's an example of a very early surface piercing props, used in the early 1900's to navigate the Colorado river.
OK, I'm going to leave now before Wheeler shoots my aging ass for making a train wreck of his thread.
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Just stumbled across them while researching my own roots. All these members going bragging about Mayflower this and Pilgrims that, well I found mine too, so HA. This explains a lot and suddenly I have the urge for grass-hoppers.
To review --- oh never mind, I lost track of which of the two you still have
Who raced the 236 Pro-Am ? You don't have that one anymore or never did right ?
It's in Parker sitting in a hangar. Been clearing out another hangar to make room for the Eliminator and what ever else I find in or behind the truck when I get home each day.Oh very cool, that explains the more curved deck at the bow, not Howard but Schiada.
Now with the side view you can see how much shorter it is, now you show that card.
So where is it today --- I hope you don't say it's another Lanart
I almost asked ...fuc off paul! that's danas ...oh forget it.So is the car a Henway or a Dickfor? Whatever it is, great thread.
The only reason that I've kept it is 'cause no body else has onel.
Damn straight, I think it has a very modern look that will turn some heads, horizontally, not vertically of course
Wait till fo’sitty sees those faded red A-N fittings.
I'll be going with black fitting along with the hoses if I ever get around to re plumbing it. I'll fed ex him all of the faded red that he needs to complete his colllection.Wait till fo’sitty sees those faded red A-N fittings.
New Turbos and waste gates from turbonetics. one of the ray-jays self destructed.
Ya boat and cars guys can’t remember a name but “you’re the guy with the Hallet with the Mopar”
