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New CDC mask guidelines set to be announced today.......is everyone ready to mask up?

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So, as of right now, no traveling to Cali or Vegas - carry on
 

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Well fuck me....

Here at my daughters gymnastics class.

Mask mandatory as of today. Ventura County has no mandate in place but owner must swing on the CDC’s nuts.

Looks like im gonna find another gym.....
 

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Peoria,Az , Lichfield Park is also an option. I can’t get her to a cooler climate. Too far from family.


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we have north Scottsdale on the list. I grew up in that area, my wife says she does not want the heat.
Prescott was an option, until I researched the school district
 

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we have north Scottsdale on the list. I grew up in that area, my wife says she does not want the heat.
Prescott was an option, until I researched the school district

I’d prefer to stay out of the heat. However, Santa Clarita has been creaping up into the low 100’s, what’s another 10-15 degrees. Lol

I’d love to be where Cole Trickle is or Idaho. But that’s not a. Option with the wife. It’s Nevada(Henderson) or Phoenix area. [emoji2369]


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I’d prefer to stay out of the heat. However, Santa Clarita has been creaping up into the low 100’s, what’s another 10-15 degrees. Lol

I’d love to be where Cole Trickle is or Idaho. But that’s not a. Option with the wife. It’s Nevada(Henderson) or Phoenix area. [emoji2369]


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We recently moved to Henderson and we really like it . We liked western Arizona too but las vegas has California income . Henderson is nothing like las vegas . Have no illusions its not utopia but its not california . I have zero regrets !
 

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We recently moved to Henderson and we really like it . We liked western Arizona too but las vegas has California income . Henderson is nothing like las vegas . Have no illusions its not utopia but its not california . I have zero regrets !

researched that area as well, once again schools became an issue.
Private schools were required, and the good ones were not cheap
 

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I don't think it will affect our trip.

Wife and I just went to Vegas this last weekend and all was good. No masks inside any of the casinos. [emoji1303]

EDIT….just saw Clark county is requiring people to where masks indoors as of 7/27. [emoji107]


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researched that area as well, once again schools became an issue.
Private schools were required, and the good ones were not cheap
I dont know where in america schools are worth a shit anyway . Atleast there social life is in a better enviroment .
 

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Wife and I just went to Vegas this last weekend and all was good. No masks inside any of the casinos. [emoji1303]


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Untill this Friday ! Ugh !!
 

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Gah…I have a business trip to New York City in 3 weeks.

I bet I’ll need to bring some masks.


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Wondering around Walmart in Winslow this evening all their employees are back to masked!
 
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My wife is in the same boat as yours, her Dr. even told her no way in hell are you getting the vaccine. Her and I both had Covid last year, she was in the hospital with double pneumonia, I was just had a very bad cold. We both believe we have a better immunity to the virus then some non-approved vaccine, that doesn't appear to even keep you from catching the virus.

We can survive without her paycheck, or she can move to the river and work in AZ, and travel back and forth or vice-versa until I retire in a couple years.
My wife commutes now, 4 days on, 10 off. She retires in January, havasu pay is ridiculous for nurses, my wife makes 5 times what they pay here.
 

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Fda approval of Pfizer is happening. My wife's hospital already said they will mandate the vaccine just like they mandate the flu shot. Anti vaxxers will always be antivaxxers.
Ya I don't see this happening either, Israel tried to ban vaccinated people coming in because they're the only ones getting covid and their front line doctors are claiming they will be banning Pfizer as it's going the way of zeneca in Europe. If the FDA gives an approval to bend to the leftist bullshit there's gonna be a whole new wave of civil unrest.
 

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This big bullshit push to take the experimental shot, not a vaccine btw, is because the left has no way to explain why covid dissappears the way it is disappearing...so push this experiment on the people so they can say there's the reason it's going away, otherwise the rest of the people will wake up and realize what's happening.
 

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Texas and Arizona seem to be doing pretty good compared to California, but California is a disaster anyway.

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Peoria,Az , Lichfield Park is also an option. I can’t get her to a cooler climate. Too far from family.


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Im in peoria wanted to be on the west valley side so we have a closer run to glamis or river.So far i like the location pleasant is 30 min away on non freeway drive and i have a spot to go shooting 25 min away.Lake is nice midweek too
 

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For me, one of the hardest things to do is bite my tongue and choose humor instead of telling friends to straight fuck off....like this poor sheep here
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My gawd...did these people ever watch ER 🤦‍♂️ I thought I had it bad, actually I got out clean by unplugging from all unsocial media and cleaning out my contacts 😆
 

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Peoria,Az , Lichfield Park is also an option. I can’t get her to a cooler climate. Too far from family.


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I would look at Scottsdale or maybe flag area
 

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For me, one of the hardest things to do is bite my tongue and choose humor instead of telling friends to straight fuck off....like this poor sheep here
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All my friends know exactly where I stand on almost everything and if one of them don't like it I tell them to FUCK OFF!!! Don't judge me and I won't judge you. If you want to judge me than I don't need you, PERIOD!!!!
 

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I would look at Scottsdale or maybe flag area

I don’t think she will do flag. She wants to be able to be in Palm Springs in 3 hours to visit her mom.


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We can call people sheep.. We can say masks are stupid.. We can say never on the vaccination.

The fact does remain that virus isn’t a flu.. We have lost members to it. There are members in ICU right now that may come out ok, others won’t come out at all.

Our hospital is full once again. There are several people in Havasu that have been shipped to Phoenix now..

I don’t care how red you are or how blue ya are.. This thing is fucking a lot of people up and it’s ramping up again out here..

I dunno if I’d survive it.. when I know what happened to Roy, and what is happening to a guy I know Paul, and when I’m talking to people and they are saying “hey did you hear xyz passed away?”

I have met two people in my life that were paralyzed from the flu shot.. I dunno anyone that died from the flu.

I am hearing more and more about people that are fairly close having some severe reactions to various vaccines.. ranging from losing fingers, to the shakes and collapsing and yes even death..

I dunno what the answer is.. but if you are basing your health decisions on politics…. That is a scary road.
I dunno if I’ll get a vaccine or not.. I can tell ya I’d rather not. But I know plenty of people that are a lot healthier than me that died of covid or are currently fighting for their lives.. it’s scary times we are living in.

doesn’t seem to be any right choices
 
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We can call people sheep.. We can say masks are stupid.. We can say never on the vaccination.

The fact does remain that virus isn’t a flu.. We have lost members to it. There are members in ICU right now that may come out ok, others won’t come out at all.

Our hospital is full once again. There are several people in Havasu that have been shipped to Phoenix now..

I don’t care how red you are or how blue ya are.. This thing is fucking a lot of people up and it’s ramping up again out here..

I dunno if I’d survive it.. when I know what happened to Roy, and what is happening to a guy I know Paul, and when I’m talking to people and they are saying “hey did you hear xyz passed away?”

I have met two people in my life that were paralyzed from the flu shot.. I dunno anyone that died from the flu.

I am hearing more and more about people that are fairly close having some severe reactions to various vaccines.. ranging from losing fingers, to the shakes and collapsing and yes even death..

I dunno what the answer is.. but if you are basing your health decisions on politics…. That is a scary road.
I dunno if I’ll get a vaccine or not.. I can tell ya I’d rather not. But I know plenty of people that are a lot healthier than me that died of covid or are currently fighting for their lives.. it’s scary times we are living in.

doesn’t seem to be any right choices

My exact thoughts Dave. This shit is hitting alot of my friends healthier then I am. Scary times. Luckily I have been staying pretty much at home myself since wifey is due pretty soon.

Im leaning towards the Johnson and Johnson shot.
 
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A lot of conservatives saying this is a push for mail in ballots on the recall.

that was decided a long time ago. If the election was after oct 1, it would of been normal, in sept still falls into mail.
they are using the c19 spike to try and push legislation that go forward all Ca elections will be mail based
 
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We can call people sheep.. We can say masks are stupid.. We can say never on the vaccination.

The fact does remain that virus isn’t a flu.. We have lost members to it. There are members in ICU right now that may come out ok, others won’t come out at all.

Our hospital is full once again. There are several people in Havasu that have been shipped to Phoenix now..

I don’t care how red you are or how blue ya are.. This thing is fucking a lot of people up and it’s ramping up again out here..

I dunno if I’d survive it.. when I know what happened to Roy, and what is happening to a guy I know Paul, and when I’m talking to people and they are saying “hey did you hear xyz passed away?”

I have met two people in my life that were paralyzed from the flu shot.. I dunno anyone that died from the flu.

I am hearing more and more about people that are fairly close having some severe reactions to various vaccines.. ranging from losing fingers, to the shakes and collapsing and yes even death..

I dunno what the answer is.. but if you are basing your health decisions on politics…. That is a scary road.
I dunno if I’ll get a vaccine or not.. I can tell ya I’d rather not. But I know plenty of people that are a lot healthier than me that died of covid or are currently fighting for their lives.. it’s scary times we are living in.

doesn’t seem to be any right choices

C19 is different due to being created in a lab (no one can prove it, but everything I read says yes)
This is from the CDC.
Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s. The seven coronaviruses that can infect people are:

Common human coronaviruses
  1. 229E (alpha coronavirus)
  2. NL63 (alpha coronavirus)
  3. OC43 (beta coronavirus)
  4. HKU1 (beta coronavirus)
Other human coronaviruses
  1. MERS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, or MERS)
  2. SARS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS)
  3. SARS-CoV-2 (the novel coronavirus that causes coronavirus disease 2019, or COVID-19)
People around the world commonly get infected with human coronaviruses 229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1. These 4 are referred to as the common cold / flu.

IMO, the flu shot and C19 are personal decisions.
The issue I have is the mandatory requirements we are seeing today. Will I get the shot (TBD), but I have always said, if it impacts my job status or ability to see my kids, I will most likely get it. BUT, only after I know if my preexisting condition is a risk to an adverse reaction to any vaccine. This is the data that keeps changing. new adverse reactions due to existing conditions are being identified daily based on my C19 covid research friend at HonorHealth and the head nurse I know at the SD VA.
 

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We can call people sheep.. We can say masks are stupid.. We can say never on the vaccination.

The fact does remain that virus isn’t a flu.. We have lost members to it. There are members in ICU right now that may come out ok, others won’t come out at all.

Our hospital is full once again. There are several people in Havasu that have been shipped to Phoenix now..

I don’t care how red you are or how blue ya are.. This thing is fucking a lot of people up and it’s ramping up again out here..

I dunno if I’d survive it.. when I know what happened to Roy, and what is happening to a guy I know Paul, and when I’m talking to people and they are saying “hey did you hear xyz passed away?”

I have met two people in my life that were paralyzed from the flu shot.. I dunno anyone that died from the flu.

I am hearing more and more about people that are fairly close having some severe reactions to various vaccines.. ranging from losing fingers, to the shakes and collapsing and yes even death..

I dunno what the answer is.. but if you are basing your health decisions on politics…. That is a scary road.
I dunno if I’ll get a vaccine or not.. I can tell ya I’d rather not. But I know plenty of people that are a lot healthier than me that died of covid or are currently fighting for their lives.. it’s scary times we are living in.

doesn’t seem to be any right choices

this is true that this thing is hitting some people hard. Also true that it barely effects other people. So what do you do? Wear masks that have proven to be pointless? Do we shut down again and continue this financial fiasco that we are in? You get the jab and risk side effects / still can get COVID?

This has gotten VERY political. People should be responsible for their own health! It shouldn’t be the governments problem. If you feel you are more at risk, you should do whatever you can to stay at home or keep away from crowds. You can be totally healthy and this thing can drop you on your ass.... but that is life. I am done letting the govt run this show, because they definitely do not know what the eff they are doing.
 

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Things that make you go hmmmmm.

Data point buried in a footnote of the LA County C19 update yesterday = Officials noted that while the C19 increase case count is concerning, only 0.21% of positive cases result in hospitalization, which is much lower than the winter surge that saw about 5.76% of illnesses requiring hospitalization.

So, delta is spreading, but only 0.21% end up in the hospital requiring care. MSM is making this delta look like death IMO, yet when you review real data, sure does not look like it.
 

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We can call people sheep.. We can say masks are stupid.. We can say never on the vaccination.

The fact does remain that virus isn’t a flu.. We have lost members to it. There are members in ICU right now that may come out ok, others won’t come out at all.

Our hospital is full once again. There are several people in Havasu that have been shipped to Phoenix now..

I don’t care how red you are or how blue ya are.. This thing is fucking a lot of people up and it’s ramping up again out here..

I dunno if I’d survive it.. when I know what happened to Roy, and what is happening to a guy I know Paul, and when I’m talking to people and they are saying “hey did you hear xyz passed away?”

I have met two people in my life that were paralyzed from the flu shot.. I dunno anyone that died from the flu.

I am hearing more and more about people that are fairly close having some severe reactions to various vaccines.. ranging from losing fingers, to the shakes and collapsing and yes even death..

I dunno what the answer is.. but if you are basing your health decisions on politics…. That is a scary road.
I dunno if I’ll get a vaccine or not.. I can tell ya I’d rather not. But I know plenty of people that are a lot healthier than me that died of covid or are currently fighting for their lives.. it’s scary times we are living in.

doesn’t seem to be any right choices
“But I know plenty of people that are a lot healthier than me”
No offense but that’s not saying much.
Health is subjective. Just because you perceive others to be healthier than you doesn’t mean they are.

Ex:
My chicks morbidly obese aunt with diabetes and early onset of dementia had covid and survived. Shes in her late 60's.
Im in my early 30's and run an average of 4 miles a day with 7min split.
If i die from covid, does that make her the exception or the rule?
If i keep living even after not masking up or taking the jab, does that make her the exception or the rule?
 
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I was under the impression that Vegas was under there own mandate like LA was and it happened at the same time..... Guess not.
Just for employees, now as of Friday midnight EVERYONE has to wear them....just amazing...
 

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Fu&king Prick and his sheep! View attachment 1030658
Another example of the “do as I tell you, not as I do”
While CA state required masks for indoor educational summer activities, this camp was ignoring the rule when idiots kids were registered (multiple news outlets have confirmed this). Day after his kids were pulled, everyone is wearing masks. So sick of this guy and his elite, above everyone else attitude
 

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We can call people sheep.. We can say masks are stupid.. We can say never on the vaccination.

The fact does remain that virus isn’t a flu.. We have lost members to it. There are members in ICU right now that may come out ok, others won’t come out at all.

Our hospital is full once again. There are several people in Havasu that have been shipped to Phoenix now..

I don’t care how red you are or how blue ya are.. This thing is fucking a lot of people up and it’s ramping up again out here..

I dunno if I’d survive it.. when I know what happened to Roy, and what is happening to a guy I know Paul, and when I’m talking to people and they are saying “hey did you hear xyz passed away?”

I have met two people in my life that were paralyzed from the flu shot.. I dunno anyone that died from the flu.

I am hearing more and more about people that are fairly close having some severe reactions to various vaccines.. ranging from losing fingers, to the shakes and collapsing and yes even death..

I dunno what the answer is.. but if you are basing your health decisions on politics…. That is a scary road.
I dunno if I’ll get a vaccine or not.. I can tell ya I’d rather not. But I know plenty of people that are a lot healthier than me that died of covid or are currently fighting for their lives.. it’s scary times we are living in.

doesn’t seem to be any right choices

Its tragic and I feel for everyone who has lost a loved one. My view isn’t politics, it’s personal and I’m tired of putting my life, and my families life on continual hold for shit that doest work and has no end on sight.

I agree with everything you said, but the damn masks don’t work and it won’t end until it runs thru the population and makes its rounds. The vaccine might help, hell it better if they’re now at the point where we’re seeing it be mandated for normal life. I haven’t gotten it because I’ve had covid, haven’t got it since despite being exposed like 5 times so I believe immunity is real. I’m in no rush to get it till it’s approved and vetted, there’s no need in my case.

Nothing but a 100% “no exceptions” lockdown will stop it and nobody is willing to do that, or enforce that, and that has already been tried twice in CA with “essential worker” exceptions for everything imaginable, which makes it a failure.

So if masks don’t work, and lockdowns can’t continue after 18 months....at what point do you have to let it run ?

When do we admit we can’t continue to throttle daily life with no end?
 
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Great point RD however, there is no science behind masks, there's no science behind social distancing, there's no science behind the experimental shot, and no science behind lockdowns. It's pretty political already.
 

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We can call people sheep.. We can say masks are stupid.. We can say never on the vaccination.

The fact does remain that virus isn’t a flu.. We have lost members to it. There are members in ICU right now that may come out ok, others won’t come out at all.

Our hospital is full once again. There are several people in Havasu that have been shipped to Phoenix now..

I don’t care how red you are or how blue ya are.. This thing is fucking a lot of people up and it’s ramping up again out here..

I dunno if I’d survive it.. when I know what happened to Roy, and what is happening to a guy I know Paul, and when I’m talking to people and they are saying “hey did you hear xyz passed away?”

I have met two people in my life that were paralyzed from the flu shot.. I dunno anyone that died from the flu.

I am hearing more and more about people that are fairly close having some severe reactions to various vaccines.. ranging from losing fingers, to the shakes and collapsing and yes even death..

I dunno what the answer is.. but if you are basing your health decisions on politics…. That is a scary road.
I dunno if I’ll get a vaccine or not.. I can tell ya I’d rather not. But I know plenty of people that are a lot healthier than me that died of covid or are currently fighting for their lives.. it’s scary times we are living in.

doesn’t seem to be any right choices
If you are in the “at risk” segment, I don’t see why you wouldn’t get the vaccine. I won’t get it, but I’m glad my parents did who are overweight, smoked the majority of their lives, and have diabetes. At 37, working out almost ever day, no underlying health complications, there isn’t much of a reason for me to risk it.
 

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If you are in the “at risk” segment, I don’t see why you wouldn’t get the vaccine. I won’t get it, but I’m glad my parents did who are overweight, smoked the majority of their lives, and have diabetes. At 37, working out almost ever day, no underlying health complications, there isn’t much of a reason for me to risk it.
The science does say you have a 99.9% survival rate if you did get the virus.
 

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You/we need to come to grips that this will never end and Covid isn't going anywhere. Even locking everyone in their house for a couple weeks is not going to stop it. Each mutation will make it less deadly, and more transmissible. Very few are actually dying in this new wave.

Anyone that is telling you this will end if "everyone" is vaccinated is dumb or lying, as the vaccinated are still getting covid. Wearing a stupid cloth mask to ward off covid is like trying to stop a flood with a chain link fence. If you don't want to get Covid, don't hang around people with Covid.

If you think you are at risk, go the the damn vaccine. Beyond that people need to mind their own business.

And if you watched the exchange between Fauci and Rand Paul last week, it is plain as day this leaked out of the lab in Wuhan, and Fauci was approving funding for Gain of Function research in Wuhan for years.
 
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