New shocks already!

[Rondog4405]

Ive only had this rzr for just under 2 months and the ride on this thing has gone to shit! I know most guys swap out the springs right? I figured i would eventually need to have the shocks worked...but, not this soon! They were pretty decent first few rides..but the last 2-3 have gotten worse and worse. Getting beat to hell in this thing now

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Ive only had this rzr for just under 2 months and the ride on this thing has gone to shit! I know most guys swap out the springs right? I figured i would eventually need to have the shocks worked...but, not this soon! They were pretty decent first few rides..but the last 2-3 have gotten worse and worse. Getting beat to hell in this thing now

They are cheap chinese springs on the OE shocks. If you get a set of sprigs from Eibach, PAC, Shock Therapy, etc. the ride will be much improved.

Expect between $750 and $850. This will be for 8 springs and all the hardware needed to make it a true dual rate setup. You’ll notice the small stock springs on top of the larger springs on your RZR are all totally collapsed. You are only using the larger spring.

You may be able to save a bit byuing the the springs separately yourself and/or doing it in stages.

 

[Bpracing1127]

They are cheap chinese springs on the OE shocks. If you get a set of sprigs from Eibach, PAC, Shock Therapy, etc. the ride will be much improved.

Expect between $750 and $850. This will be for 8 springs and all the hardware needed to make it a true dual rate setup. You’ll notice the small stock springs on top of the larger springs on your RZR are all totally collapsed. You are only using the larger spring.

You may be able to save a bit pieceing the components out yourself and/or doing it in stages.

What he said

 

[FlyByWire]

Just did mine (Eibach stage 3). Need a few more rides to see if I want to send them out to have them re-valved, but just the springs alone changed the car 1000% for the better.

 

[redone76]

Ive only had this rzr for just under 2 months and the ride on this thing has gone to shit! I know most guys swap out the springs right? I figured i would eventually need to have the shocks worked...but, not this soon! They were pretty decent first few rides..but the last 2-3 have gotten worse and worse. Getting beat to hell in this thing now

If it wasn’t for bad luck you’d have no luck at all man!!! Gonna follow this one closely as my brother needs to do the same


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[LargeOrangeFont]

Have you checked your ride height recently?
The rear springs sag pretty quick.
Guys have had good results with RZR AID. About $240.
https://www.rzrforums.net/rzr-xp-1000/534652-day-night-diff-120-a.html
https://allthingzutv.com/rzr-1000-xp-4-seater-tender-springs/

That is just a tender spring upgrade. It will give some ride height back, give you a useable first softer spring stage, and help the ride a bit.

Keep in mind that kit does not have crossover nuts, so you hit the 2nd spring stage when the first spring is fully compressed. There is no adjustment in that at all unless you add crossover nuts.

 

[lbhsbz]

I don't have a SxS...and probably never will, but it seems that for the prices these are going for, they're pretty shitty little cars. I couldn't imagine breaking tie rod ends, control arm bolts, and having springs go shitty in a short period of time on something designed as an off road car.

 

[milkmoney]

And we are off. Open that wallet [emoji39][emoji39]

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[Rondog4405]

Just did mine (Eibach stage 3). Need a few more rides to see if I want to send them out to have them re-valved, but just the springs alone changed the car 1000% for the better.

Right on.. Thanks. Did you order them online?

 

[Rondog4405]

If it wasn’t for bad luck you’d have no luck at all man!!! Gonna follow this one closely as my brother needs to do the same


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No shit right! Lol .. buy a 24k toy and have to change out everything but the engine. Nuts!!

 

[Rondog4405]

And we are off. Open that wallet [emoji39][emoji39]

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Seriously!! I gotta take out a rzr upgrade loan for this shitbox! Lol

 

[FlyByWire]

Right on.. Thanks. Did you order them online?

I got them on eBay during a sale. Looked up the part number on the Eibach site. The stage 3 is for 4 seaters with added loads.

 

[milkmoney]

Seriously!! I gotta take out a rzr upgrade loan for this shitbox! Lol

Ready to sell at 1/2 price lol [emoji39][emoji202]

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[was thatguy]

No shit right! Lol .. buy a 24k toy and have to change out everything but the engine. Nuts!!

Damn.

I paid $24K for this.

 

[Ziggy]

And we are off. Open that wallet [emoji39][emoji39]

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Can they just borrow yours since you don't have a wife spending it for you

 

[RVRKID]

Give my buddy Ed a call night and day difference.

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[HB2Havasu]

No shit right! Lol .. buy a 24k toy and have to change out everything but the engine. Nuts!!

Ha well the engines only last 10K-15K miles so there’s that, lol.

 

[t&y]

No shit right! Lol .. buy a 24k toy and have to change out everything but the engine. Nuts!!

But all the cool kids these days are rocking them.. so stop complaining and join the party. lol

 

[Havaduner]

X 2 for Ed. Talk to him about a re spring and re valve. You wont believe you're in the same vehicle.

 

[grumpy88]

I just did mine my self and I fucked up and went up to heavy a spring rate . Now I need to buy new springs again . Smh I should of just dropped them off somewhere .

 

[FlyByWire]

Damn.

I paid $24K for this.

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She’s pretty. Race you through the woops.

 

[was thatguy]

She’s pretty. Race you through the woops.

Lol!!

 

[milkmoney]

Can they just borrow yours since you don't have a wife spending it for you

Ummm. I have no money. Your two homies broke me the other day on tequila drinks [emoji39][emoji202]

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[02HoWaRd26]

If you have access to nitrogen check that. I’m still blown away by hat lack of proper charge from the factory. Worse yet that can cause the shocks to blow out prematurely as well.

 

[Rondog4405]

Ready to sell at 1/2 price lol [emoji39][emoji202]

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Gimme a month.. Lmao!

 

[Rondog4405]

Give my buddy Ed a call night and day difference.
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Thanks Chris! Will do for sure

 

[Rondog4405]

Ummm. I have no money. Your two homies broke me the other day on tequila drinks [emoji39][emoji202]

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Hopefully you do good in vegas so you can loan a homie a grand fo some sum new springs!!

 

[Ziggy]

Ummm. I have no money. Your two homies broke me the other day on tequila drinks [emoji39][emoji202]

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Holy cow! They got you using that Inland Empire speak
So you're saying that they're as expensive as wives? That's sweet

 

[redone76]

Damn.

I paid $24K for this.

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Nice! You and BobbyV can race for latte’s now!


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[was thatguy]

Nice! You and BobbyV can race for latte’s now!


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Lol
Mine was just a plain LS1 base.
C5

It’s sold now. Bobby’s is a whoopdedoo RAD Vette!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Give my buddy Ed a call night and day difference.
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Ed is great to work with. It will turn into a ~$3k endeavor though as he does not like the OE front shocks, and will urge you to buy the Walker 2.5 front shocks, revalve the new fronts and current rears, and buy all new springs.

Mine has his setup on it.. it’s awesome, however the springs are probably the biggest gain. The shock revalve compliments the springs, and the 2.5 front shocks are a performance gain if you drive hard for extended periods and on really large bumps.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I just did mine my self and I fucked up and went up to heavy a spring rate . Now I need to buy new springs again . Smh I should of just dropped them off somewhere .

What are your spring rates? What are the SXS details?

 

[grumpy88]

What are your spring rates? What are the SXS details?

A 2012 arctic cat wild cat . Stock rear lower springs were 400lb rate . I added spare tire carrier and tire and 5 gallons of fuel . a ton of tools . Ice , beer ,food ,clothes . I bought 500lb rate Eibach springs because when loaded up I would dam near bottom out at times . Unfortunately it raised the rear ride height 4" . That's just way to much .

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

A 2012 arctic cat wild cat . Stock rear lower springs were 400lb rate . I added spare tire carrier and tire and 5 gallons of fuel . a ton of tools . Ice , beer ,food ,clothes . I bought 500lb rate Eibach springs because when loaded up I would dam near bottom out at times . Unfortunately it raised the rear ride height 4" . That's just way to much .

Yea that is a big jump in spring rate. It sounds like you ordered the same length spring? Longer spring? Does the machine have adjustable spring preload? Were you able to get it back down a reasonable ride height?

You might try a 2 inch shorter 450 lb spring if the 500s feel too stiff, assuming there is some way to adjust the preload.

 

[Racer56]

Ive only had this rzr for just under 2 months and the ride on this thing has gone to shit! I know most guys swap out the springs right? I figured i would eventually need to have the shocks worked...but, not this soon! They were pretty decent first few rides..but the last 2-3 have gotten worse and worse. Getting beat to hell in this thing now

The nitrogen has leaked out of the shocks and they need to be recharged. If you keep having to add nitrogen, your seals are shot.

 

[Rondog4405]

The nitrogen has leaked out of the shocks and they need to be recharged. If you keep having to add nitrogen, your seals are shot.

In less than 2 months? 3 weekends of riding. Man if so... Shouldn't that fall under the factory warranty?

 

[Racer56]

In less than 2 months? 3 weekends of riding. Man if so... Shouldn't that fall under the factory warranty?

Yes, if the car rode well when you bought it and the ride keeps getting worse, then it needs a nitrogen recharge. I'm not sure what your warranty covers, but shock charge pressure is easy to check.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

In less than 2 months? 3 weekends of riding. Man if so... Shouldn't that fall under the factory warranty?

Yes. You could bring them in and have them looked at, probably a good first step. They will most likely say “Everything looks fine”.

Has the ride height dropped since you got it?

 

[Rondog4405]

Yes. You could bring them in and have them looked at, probably a good first step. They will most likely say “Everything looks fine”.

Has the ride height dropped since you got it?

Havent measured it exactly. But it does appear to be sagging a bit lower than new. Most noticeable in the rear.

 

[Rondog4405]

Yes, if the car rode well when you bought it and the ride keeps getting worse, then it needs a nitrogen recharge. I'm not sure what your warranty covers, but shock charge pressure is easy to check.

Yeah definitely getting worse each trip out. How do you check on the pressure?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Havent measured it exactly. But it does appear to be sagging a bit lower than new. Most noticeable in the rear.

Again that is likely the culprit. Springs sag, and put you in a “stiffer” part of the shock’s travel, killing the ride. Plus it bottoms out and drags more, making the ride worse still.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Yeah definitely getting worse each trip out. How do you check on the pressure?

There are schrader (tire) valves on the piggyback reservoirs. Pretty straightforward to check.

 

[Racer56]

Yeah definitely getting worse each trip out. How do you check on the pressure?

You can check with a tire pressure gauge, but you will loose pressure every time you check. A shock fill valve doesn't let any nitrogen out when you check pressure. The pressure should be 125 PSI and a lot of people run 150 PSI.

 

[Racer56]

https://www.kartek.com/parts-categories/shock-gauges-fill-kits.html

 

[ArizonaKevin]

No shit right! Lol .. buy a 24k toy and have to change out everything but the engine. Nuts!!

That's why I'm very seriously looking at the Textron XX when it comes time for me to take the plunge into the SxS world. Heimed pivot points, factory cage with good intrusion bars, true trailing arm rear suspension so no worrying about radius arms etc. They seem to be built like a brick shit house, they are about 500lbs heavier than the RZR's.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

That's why I'm very seriously looking at the Textron XX when it comes time for me to take the plunge into the SxS world. Heimed pivot points, factory cage with good intrusion bars, true trailing arm rear suspension so no worrying about radius arms etc. They seem to be built like a brick shit house, they are about 500lbs heavier than the RZR's.

I would buy that post haste for a 2 seat SxS. Tons of room inside for us taller guys. My friend worked at Textron and was on the design team, it is a nice piece.

Buy the base one, put in a GPS and intercom and go have fun. Maybe harnesses if you desire them. You don't really need to do anything to it. And yes the XX is heavier than my 4 seat RZR lol.

 

[ArizonaKevin]

I would buy that post haste for a 2 seat SxS. Tons of room inside for us taller guys. My friend worked at Textron and was on the design team, it is a nice piece.

Buy the base one, put in a GPS and intercom and go have fun. Maybe harnesses if you desire them. You don't really need to do anything to it. And yes the XX is heavier than my 4 seat RZR lol.

I still don't think I'm ready to go into a cage just yet, I'm young enough I want to ride out my 2 wheeled life as long as I can. I sat in the XX at the offroad expo the other weekend and was shocked how roomy it felt.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I still don't think I'm ready to go into a cage just yet, I'm young enough I want to ride out my 2 wheeled life as long as I can. I sat in the XX at the offroad expo the other weekend and was shocked how roomy it felt.

18 months

 

[HavaToon]

That's why I'm very seriously looking at the Textron XX when it comes time for me to take the plunge into the SxS world. Heimed pivot points, factory cage with good intrusion bars, true trailing arm rear suspension so no worrying about radius arms etc. They seem to be built like a brick shit house, they are about 500lbs heavier than the RZR's.

Sorry bud, they are all capable of failures. Just pick the one you like the most, drive it within you skill and fix what needs fixed when it comes up.

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[ArizonaKevin]

Sorry bud, they are all capable of failures. Just pick the one you like the most, drive it within you skill and fix what needs fixed when it comes up. View attachment 734669


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Oh for sure I'm not saying it's indestructible. Just seems like the one that is the most "ready" and needs the least aftermarket right out of the box. Between the XX and the X3 for sure in my head.