Old Texan
Honorary Warden #377 Emeritus - R.I.P.
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Fuck Mitt Romney...... Just showed who he is
Lol, you didn't already know?Fuck Mitt Romney...... Just showed who he is
Fuck Mitt Romney...... Just showed who he is
Yes when it's based on a fake sham, all orchestrated by the W. Blower and his and Shiffs buddies.So voting to call witnesses at a TRIAL makes one a traitor now...
You had 17 witnesses, why do you need more? Republicans had 0 (ZERO) and were not allowed to even speak. Get over it Portland, your team LOST again. WINNING WINNING WINNING Damn us AMERICANS love winning.So voting to call witnesses at a TRIAL makes one a traitor now...
Yes when it's based on a fake sham, all orchestrated by the W. Blower and his and Shiffs buddies.
OFFS...
The whistle blower is irrelevant, along with Schiff and any of his buddies you might name. None of them were part of a poorly executed plan to extort the Ukrainian President into announcing an investigation into Trumps political rival.
You Biff are completely ate up with Trump hatred to the point any iota open mindedness to what is happening is completely gone. That was no trial, it was the culmination of the biggest sham in the history of the USA. A complete and utter shit on the Constitution.So voting to call witnesses at a TRIAL makes one a traitor now...
Good fucking grief!!!!!!! The investigation of Biden is warranted. In his own words, Joe bragged on with holding aid to get a Ukranian AG fired who had the goods on his worthless kid.....OFFS...
The whistle blower is irrelevant, along with Schiff and any of his buddies you might name. None of them were part of a poorly executed plan to extort the Ukrainian President into announcing an investigation into Trumps political rival.
Uhhhh… What?Objectively here what is interesting to me is that without “direct first hand witnesses” Trump must be innocent of all charges. And any such witnesses should not be allowed to testify.
What makes that most interesting to me is that is not only the position of trump supporters but of T & A a law enforcement official.
Based upon that standard OJ as well as the vast majority of accused and convicted criminals for murder and many other charges must be innocent.
As there are rarely direct witnesses as the Victims are dead and only second hand witnesses exist.
It is an interesting standard and contrary to existing case law and the necessary standards for a lawful society.
Um.....doesn’t DNA play a significant role in determining innocence or guilt in murder cases? Kind of a leap from a phone call that’s been released to the public and a murder conviction, no?
I'm really not even sure if you are trying to reference me with your T & A then Law Enforcement Officer... But I'll give it a shot.DNA is not a first hand witness. It should be excluded under the T & A first hand knowledge standard.
Same play book they tried against Kavanaugh. Last minute requests of further investigation just to stir up the village idiots. Working like a charm in here so I'm assuming we should see some action from the tolerant side starting Monday.The Dems had the power to call any of these witnessed earlier on when they were controlling the show, they didn't, too bad so sad. Saying they need to hear from them now is laughable, why didn't they call them in December? Because this is nothing more than a political side show, a bluff hand that the Dems played way too early in the game and lost big on.
Just not true. Like your President, your best argument is a bunch of lies. History will judge those Senators who voted to help Trump in his coverup.You had 17 witnesses, why do you need more? Republicans had 0 (ZERO) and were not allowed to even speak. Get over it Portland, your team LOST again. WINNING WINNING WINNING Damn us AMERICANS love winning.
They did- and Trump obstructed Congress by blocking that testimony.The Dems had the power to call any of these witnessed earlier on when they were controlling the show, they didn't, too bad so sad. Saying they need to hear from them now is laughable, why didn't they call them in December? Because this is nothing more than a political side show, a bluff hand that the Dems played way too early in the game and lost big on.
Is there also a crime called ATTEMPTED murder?I'm really not even sure if you are trying to reference me with your T & A then Law Enforcement Officer... But I'll give it a shot.
Like I've explained a millions times already to your other Trump Haters, this case would not have passed a prelim in any court I've been in. And trying to compare this to a murder case is really stupid considering for there to be murder, the victim has to die. Well guess what super sleuth, the alleged victims in this particular case are alive and well. In fact, so alive and well that they have explained over and over again that the Quid Pro Quo didn't exist.
Maybe it's time to put the bottle down for the night, or just log off for a bit. I'm sure your boy flake could use a hug right now.
Yes. And if that attempted murder victim said.. "Don't know what you are talking about. We were hanging out having a good ol time, and he never tried to kill me" I'm assuming you would still try to charge them.Is there also a crime called ATTEMPTED murder?
The Dems had the power to call any of these witnessed earlier on when they were controlling the show, they didn't, too bad so sad. Saying they need to hear from them now is laughable, why didn't they call them in December? Because this is nothing more than a political side show, a bluff hand that the Dems played way too early in the game and lost big on.
Well gee, if that is now going to be the case you will go with, then I guess the Libturds running the show should have waited for a ruling before they rushed their investigation through.... No.... actually showing up prepared for a case is just crazy talk.And they did and it went to court this week.
And the Trump justice department stated that the president has the right to prevent them to defy the subpoena.
And when the judge asked the DOJ lawyer what would them be the remedy.....the trump DOJ said impeachment.
That is the fact. And that is why we are here now.
You ever have a DV where the wife is covered in bruises but denies her husband was using her for a punching bag?Yes. And if that attempted murder victim said.. "Don't know what you are talking about. We were hanging out having a good ol time, and he never tried to kill me" I'm assuming you would still try to charge them.
Your condition really is getting worse. Please turn in all your guns before they harm someone.
I'm really not even sure if you are trying to reference me with your T & A then Law Enforcement Officer... But I'll give it a shot.
Like I've explained a millions times already to your other Trump Haters, this case would not have passed a prelim in any court I've been in. And trying to compare this to a murder case is really stupid considering for there to be murder, the victim has to die. Well guess what super sleuth, the alleged victims in this particular case are alive and well. In fact, so alive and well that they have explained over and over again that the Quid Pro Quo didn't exist.
Maybe it's time to put the bottle down for the night, or just log off for a bit. I'm sure your boy flake could use a hug right now.
Oh, you mean a case actually built off of tangible real life evidence, instead of interpretations of what someone was thinking. Yes I have, several. Can you say the same?You ever have a DV where the wife is covered in bruises but denies her husband was using her for a punching bag?
Well this should be fun.Maybe we should meet in person.
Well this should be fun.
I've actually attended RDP functions. Met some nice people. So sure, I'll gladly meet up with you someday. But I gotta ask, what do you think is going to happen when we meet?
I gotta ask. Do you really think utilizing our court system and the rules surrounding Presidential Privileges is a crime? That really is scary to hear.They did- and Trump obstructed Congress by blocking that testimony.
Look forward to it. Should be fun.
They did- and Trump obstructed Congress by blocking that testimony.
And they did and it went to court this week.
And the Trump justice department stated that the president has the right to prevent them to defy the subpoena.
And when the judge asked the DOJ lawyer what would them be the remedy.....the trump DOJ said impeachment.
That is the fact. And that is why we are here now.
Impeachment is the direct result of the trump administrations legal strategy as they knew the republican senate would fear for their reelection.
Trumps deep state reigns. Just as previous administrations deep state worked equally well.
Now I gotta ask you, in your experience when someone hides behind the 5th Amendment or claims spousal or some other privilege, do you generally interpret that as evidence of their innocence?I gotta ask. Do you really think utilizing our court system and the rules surrounding Presidential Privileges is a crime? That really is scary to hear.
It can go either way. I do not automatically assume it is guilt or innocence. But we can play hypotheticals all day long and we will have the same results. Facts are really simple, the Libturds have wanted to impeach Trump from the moment he won the nomination. They have wasted almost his entire first term trying to find a way to get him out, and they have failed again and again. Maybe it's time to suck it up and accept that Trump won the election and move on.Now I gotta ask you, in your experience when someone hides behind the 5th Amendment or claims spousal or some other privilege, do you generally interpret that as evidence of their innocence?
Another question I gotta ask you, when was the last trial you were involved in where the prosecution wasn’t allowed to introduce a single witness or document?It can go either way. I do not automatically assume it is guilt or innocence. But we can play hypotheticals all day long and we will have the same results. Facts are really simple, the Libturds have wanted to impeach Trump from the moment he won the nomination. They have wasted almost his entire first term trying to find a way to get him out, and they have failed again and again. Maybe it's time to suck it up and accept that Trump won the election and move on.
As the meme says, Adam Schiff has secret info he hasn't even made up yet.Time to spin the democraps wheel of lies.. Where will it land..
Whats the barber say?
NEXT!!
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You are pretty dense, it only becomes a trial when it fits your needs. It is a congressional impeachment where the witnesses are brought in during the house portion, there is precedent for this. Your democrat side ran a one sided sham and are incompetent, get over it.Another question I gotta ask you, when was the last trial you were involved in where the prosecution wasn’t allowed to introduce a single witness or document?