Pedal Commander

[Booshy]

Is anyone running one of these? I looked but could not find a thread about them. Interested in knowing if there all that and a bag of chips?

 

[senorpdog]

What kind of car? I have one on my raptor it makes it feel faster not sure if it is

 

[WhatExit?]

Pedal Commander is awesome! It's not a tune but it sure wakes my 2017 truck up and that's on Sport 1 setting - like a rocket!

If you read the reviews you'll what I saw - it's the highest rated product I've found online - nearly unanimous in likes. Well worth the $$$ (I got mine on sale for $250).

https://www.pedalcommander.com/

What is Pedal Commander?
Pedal Commander is a throttle response controller that removes response delays on your electronic accelerator pedal. Effectively, it allows your engine to respond faster so your car can accelerate faster! You paid lots of money for a serious vehicle; when you press your gas pedal, it shouldn?t feel like you are pressing a sponge. Haven?t you ever noticed that older cars tend to be more responsive, before digital pedals? We?re giving you that response back!
Pedal Commander has 4 different control modes: Eco, City, Sport, and Sport+ . Each control mode has 8 adjustable levels to work with. These different settings are what provide drivers with unique acceleration control in their vehicles.

Easy Installation (Plug & Play)
OEM Factory Plugs
Individual Programming
User-Friendly and Adjustable
Eco,City,Sport & Sport + Modes
Removes All Disadvantages of Electronic Gas Pedals
CE and TUV Certified
Never Voids Your Factory Warranty
Excellent Customer Service
100% Satisfaction Guaranteed or 14 Days of Money Back. No Questions Asked!

 

[Taboma]

Funny, but had a new battery installed in my 12' F150 EB recently. When I picked up the truck I found I was smoking and chirping the tires off the line ---WTF :thumbsup

Of course now it's returning back to a less responsive tip-in because after a few grins, I really don't want to be chirping tires all the time, so it's re-learned and returned to a more mild response.

Not only that, I don't want to be launching into the ass-end of the asshole in front of me who's still staring at his lap after the light turns green cuz he's preoccupied with texting. :grumble:

In my wife's Audi I can just change driving modes. What I am curious about is how this throttle control interacts with the vehicle's ability to learn your driving habits.

The only thing I really want, is when I mash the pedal, I want it to downshift now, not to act as if it's undecided. :thumbsdown

 

[WhatExit?]

Funny, but had a new battery installed in my 12' F150 EB recently. When I picked up the truck I found I was smoking and chirping the tires off the line ---WTF :thumbsup

Of course now it's returning back to a less responsive tip-in because after a few grins, I really don't want to be chirping tires all the time, so it's re-learned and returned to a more mild response.

Not only that, I don't want to be launching into the ass-end of the asshole in front of me who's still staring at his lap after the light turns green cuz he's preoccupied with texting. :grumble:

In my wife's Audi I can just change driving modes. What I am curious about is how this throttle control interacts with the vehicle's ability to learn your driving habits.

The only thing I really want, is when I mash the pedal, I want it to downshift now, not to act as if it's undecided. :thumbsdown

Pedal Commander has a range of settings from off to mild to wild and everything in between. You won't believe what it'll do for your truck

 

[Waffles]

Wait so these things actually work? Ive seen countless threads on the jeep forums about them but have always thought it was one of those snake oil mods like a CAI or exhaust.....

 

[Booshy]

2017 Ford F-250 is the truck. Since it isn't explained what it does I assumed it was also snake oil. A buddy got one and said it's butcher and works well. So I figured I would ask here.

 

[STV_Keith]

They've been around for a long time. Basically what they do is more aggressively feed the throttle input signal to the ECU, so the ECU thinks you've asked for more throttle than you really have. This makes the vehicle respond to smaller inputs as if they were bigger inputs.

For instance:

What you ask for	What you get
5% throttle	15% throttle
10% throttle	25% throttle
20% throttle	45% throttle
30% throttle	60% throttle
50% throttle	100% throttle

So it FEELS like you have more on tap, but actually, once you get to some point on the throttle where it's telling the ECU that you are at 100% throttle, from there on, there is no more. The ECU is already working as if the pedal was on the floor.

With drive-by-wire vehicles more the norm these days, this type of thing works. Any older vehicle with a cable controlled throttle will not be able to use something like this.

 

[Waffles]

I knew the concept of throttle maping and how it can work on certain applications, I was just apprehensive of it actually working on my V6 lol

 

[Taboma]

They've been around for a long time. Basically what they do is more aggressively feed the throttle input signal to the ECU, so the ECU thinks you've asked for more throttle than you really have. This makes the vehicle respond to smaller inputs as if they were bigger inputs.

For instance:

What you ask for	What you get
5% throttle	15% throttle
10% throttle	25% throttle
20% throttle	45% throttle
30% throttle	60% throttle
50% throttle	100% throttle

So it FEELS like you have more on tap, but actually, once you get to some point on the throttle where it's telling the ECU that you are at 100% throttle, from there on, there is no more. The ECU is already working as if the pedal was on the floor.

With drive-by-wire vehicles more the norm these days, this type of thing works. Any older vehicle with a cable controlled throttle will not be able to use something like this.

That, plus gathered from what I've read, by boosting the output signal relative to throttle position in a non-linear manner (Higher output initially), it can change the ECU throttle filter mapping by providing a faster signal (Voltage in this case) response time. Like mashing the throttle aggressively, versus pressing the throttle.

Essentially like a poor man's Dynamic Control (Or other fancy terms) available on many sportier vehicles. Those Dynamic systems however, provide much more control over the various ECU parameters then simply altering the throttle position curve.

For those of you really interested and with a few minutes to spare, here's a very interesting article and the follow up comments are extremely entertaining

Oops, forgot the link: https://outbackjoe.com/macho-divertissement/macho-articles/sprint-booster-is-it-worth-it/

 

[Bpracing1127]

Why not buy a programmer for a few hundred bucks more and get real hp out of it? Plus that will improve throttle response?

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

I have a new ram ecodiesel and the turbo lag is annoying as fuck, it goes nowhere and then it goes somewhere too fast when it does. It's impossible to be smooth with accelerating. I don't think the pedal dealio is it but turbo lag instead.

 

[STV_Keith]

I have a new ram ecodiesel and the turbo lag is annoying as fuck, it goes nowhere and then it goes somewhere too fast when it does. It's impossible to be smooth with accelerating. I don't think the pedal dealio is it but turbo lag instead.

Well, with a turbo diesel, fuel is power. If you "ask" for 30% throttle, the ECU looks at RPM and current boost to determine how much fuel you get. With little boost, you don't get much fuel, to keep smoke output low. As the boost comes up, the computer now gives more fuel to match your 30% throttle request, since now it has more boost. More fuel = more power, which makes more boost, which gives more fuel, to the point where the ECU determines max fuel delivery at that RPM based on boost at the desired throttle %. It's a vicious circle with boost onset.

 

[pronstar]

Devil's advocate:
I'm not a fan.

I find cars are too "jumpy" as it is in relation to the throttle, all to make them feel fast on the test drive.
When you're trying to drive slow (like parking), and especially for off-roading, too much throttle response isn't always a good thing.

And it's not too hard to for me simply press on the gas a little bit more

 

[rvrrun]

So, this thing is essentially a Sport button for vehicles not equipped with one?

 

[SBMech]

I would not use that item. Changing rate of throttle opening will fuck up stability control and any traction control systems, as well as ABS since they all depend on throttle input to determine if you are trying to steer through something vs reactionary brake/maneuvering.

I can't see how this would not fuck up your warranty, it's basically a tuner light....and in all modern vehicles that's a no no for warranty issues.

 

[Taboma]

So, this thing is essentially a Sport button for vehicles not equipped with one?

No, most dynamic or sport buttons alter the ecu program that controls more parameters (Throttle, transmission shiftpoints and vehicle dependent, steering ratio and suspension, etc) than throttle response. These things only change the voltage signal the ecu receives from your throttle.

 

[Bigbore500r]

Its the electronic equivalent of moving the seat closer to the steering wheel and installing a lighter return spring on the carb

 

[WhatExit?]

Why not buy a programmer for a few hundred bucks more and get real hp out of it? Plus that will improve throttle response?

Easy:
* No warranty issues
* Not a program but you get great performance (I know some who have returned their programmers when they got the Pedal Commander)
* It's less $$$

 

[WhatExit?]

I would not use that item. Changing rate of throttle opening will fuck up stability control and any traction control systems, as well as ABS since they all depend on throttle input to determine if you are trying to steer through something vs reactionary brake/maneuvering.

I can't see how this would not fuck up your warranty, it's basically a tuner light....and in all modern vehicles that's a no no for warranty issues.

Holy cow. Please tell me what facts you have to base all this on!

 

[WhatExit?]

They've been around for a long time. Basically what they do is more aggressively feed the throttle input signal to the ECU, so the ECU thinks you've asked for more throttle than you really have. This makes the vehicle respond to smaller inputs as if they were bigger inputs.

So it FEELS like you have more on tap, but actually, once you get to some point on the throttle where it's telling the ECU that you are at 100% throttle, from there on, there is no more. The ECU is already working as if the pedal was on the floor.

With drive-by-wire vehicles more the norm these days, this type of thing works. Any older vehicle with a cable controlled throttle will not be able to use something like this.

I've never heard of anyone using a PC say this has happened to them ("there is no more" pedal). Show me please.

Devil's advocate:
I'm not a fan.

I find cars are too "jumpy" as it is in relation to the throttle, all to make them feel fast on the test drive.
When you're trying to drive slow (like parking), and especially for off-roading, too much throttle response isn't always a good thing.

And it's not too hard to for me simply press on the gas a little bit more

Pressing on the gas more does not do what the PC does. The PC makes the truck respond faster.

So, this thing is essentially a Sport button for vehicles not equipped with one?

Yes!

Guys, before you doubt this thing give it a try. If you know someone who has one ask him how he likes it and see if he'll let you drive it.

 

[pronstar]

Pressing on the gas more does not do what the PC does. The PC makes the truck respond faster.

That's exactly what it does, faster than you can flex your foot, and potentially opening the throttle faster than the ECU will allow in relation to the pedal.

That's what their own site says, I don't know how this is even in question.

More response does not mean more power.

At any given commanded throttle opening - no matter where the pedal is in relation to overall travel - the amount of power is the same.

A more responsive pedal can often be more satisfying to drive. Depends on the driver.

 

[Taboma]

I thought this video from Sprint Booster gave a good representation of how these things work.

[video=youtube_https;1XVCYDNcwwY]https://youtu.be/1XVCYDNcwwY[/video]

 

[RitcheyRch]

Or removing the carpet under the gas pedal so the pedal goes further to the floor.

Its the electronic equivalent of moving the seat closer to the steering wheel and installing a lighter return spring on the carb

 

[WhatExit?]

I thought this video from Sprint Booster gave a good representation of how these things work.

[video=youtube_https;1XVCYDNcwwY]https://youtu.be/1XVCYDNcwwY[/video]

Thanks! That demonstrates it and as he says in the video, "The difference is how fast the throttle body is responding"

 

[STV_Keith]

I've never heard of anyone using a PC say this has happened to them ("there is no more" pedal). Show me please.

This stuff isn't rocket science and has been around for at least 15 years. When I worked for Diesel Dynamics, we tested one of these on the dyno using a scan tool. We tested power at 10% mechanical throttle increments, then installed one of these devices and tested again. At each mechanical throttle increment, there was a higher reported TP% to the ECU, and more power than before with the unit installed, as the ECU was told the throttle setting was higher than mechanically requested. Somewhere about 60% mechanical throttle, the ECU was told 100%, and made the same power on the dyno as the vehicle did when tested at 100% throttle before the unit was installed. From that point onward, additional pedal input did NOT increase power, as when the engine is at 100% output, that's all there is. No peak power gains are to be had, only getting to them quicker.

 

[SBMech]

Holy cow. Please tell me what facts you have to base all this on!

ASE Master Tech, Bosch certified Master Tech, 30 years experience in the field, as well as having been an insurance inspector for Warranty for all makes and models, aftermarket insurance and factory.

Changing the throttle angle speed and it's related feedback to the BCM, ABS, SLP, TCU and other associated controllers that rely on SPECIFIC instantaneous details to perform their job is not something to play around with.

You can see EVERYTHING in the control units now, they save all related data like flight recorders. Any tampering will void your warranty.

Like others have said, there is no real performance gain to be had with this type of mod, it only tricks the throttle body into opening full throttle at half throttle.

Electro-mechanical devices like drive by wire throttle body has it's durability and lifespan predicted upon certain parameters, if you double them or triple them , then you are just burning them out faster.

 

[lakemadness]

ASE Master Tech, Bosch certified Master Tech, 30 years experience in the field, as well as having been an insurance inspector for Warranty for all makes and models, aftermarket insurance and factory.

Changing the throttle angle speed and it's related feedback to the BCM, ABS, SLP, TCU and other associated controllers that rely on SPECIFIC instantaneous details to perform their job is not something to play around with.

You can see EVERYTHING in the control units now, they save all related data like flight recorders. Any tampering will void your warranty.

Like others have said, there is no real performance gain to be had with this type of mod, it only tricks the throttle body into opening full throttle at half throttle.

Electro-mechanical devices like drive by wire throttle body has it's durability and lifespan predicted upon certain parameters, if you double them or triple them , then you are just burning them out faster.

Look at the video posted above to see what it does. Doesn't appear that it is tricking the throttle body into opening full at half throttle. It just makes the throttle body respond faster to your input.

 

[lakemadness]

I want one of these. There is way too much throttle delay in today's vehicles. They're starting to feel like a video controller. I want a goddamn real throttle linkage.

 

[Taboma]

Here's what I would like to know from somebody who is already using one of these -- Throttle Response Enhancement devices.

I'm not into street racing or stop light drag racing my F150 EB. So rapid launch times really isn't a priority. I appreciate linear throttle response for most of my activities.

However, one of my top priorities is the ability to promptly and rapidly pass on 2 lanes roads when required. Passing at speed, say 60 +MPH is never a problem, but can prove frustrating if you get bogged down to 30 or 40, get your shot, mash the peddle and the ECU seems to start a downshifting debate --- "which gear, ho hum, 4th, well maybe 3rd, ok, well I guess I'll shift now, but gotta keep my EPA numbers up there", that drives me friggin insane.

Point is, my frustration isn't with throttle response it's with transmission response. I've read nothing in regards to how these devices alter shift patterns or the response time of the ECU in making it's determination.

What say ye ?

 

[ElAzul]

Get a tune and enjoy the other benefits with it if you don't have to worry about warranty

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Here's what I would like to know from somebody who is already using one of these -- Throttle Response Enhancement devices.

I'm not into street racing or stop light drag racing my F150 EB. So rapid launch times really isn't a priority. I appreciate linear throttle response for most of my activities.

However, one of my top priorities is the ability to promptly and rapidly pass on 2 lanes roads when required. Passing at speed, say 60 +MPH is never a problem, but can prove frustrating if you get bogged down to 30 or 40, get your shot, mash the peddle and the ECU seems to start a downshifting debate --- "which gear, ho hum, 4th, well maybe 3rd, ok, well I guess I'll shift now, but gotta keep my EPA numbers up there", that drives me friggin insane.

Point is, my frustration isn't with throttle response it's with transmission response. I've read nothing in regards to how these devices alter shift patterns or the response time of the ECU in making it's determination.

What say ye ?

You need an engine and transmission tune. Drive it in tow/haul mode in lieu of that.

A tune is the ultimate solution.

These pedal commanders are just a gimmick that move the throttle blade more for a given pedal position. The car is not any faster.

 

[Waffles]

Here's what I would like to know from somebody who is already using one of these -- Throttle Response Enhancement devices.

I'm not into street racing or stop light drag racing my F150 EB. So rapid launch times really isn't a priority. I appreciate linear throttle response for most of my activities.

However, one of my top priorities is the ability to promptly and rapidly pass on 2 lanes roads when required. Passing at speed, say 60 +MPH is never a problem, but can prove frustrating if you get bogged down to 30 or 40, get your shot, mash the peddle and the ECU seems to start a downshifting debate --- "which gear, ho hum, 4th, well maybe 3rd, ok, well I guess I'll shift now, but gotta keep my EPA numbers up there", that drives me friggin insane.

Point is, my frustration isn't with throttle response it's with transmission response. I've read nothing in regards to how these devices alter shift patterns or the response time of the ECU in making it's determination.

What say ye ?

BINGO! That is probably the only thing that bugs me about our JGC. Even with sport mode on the throttle delay was unbearable. Could i get the v6 tuned? Probably. Will i? Absolutely not. I have the personality that cant leave anything alone which is the reason i went with a V6 instead of the V8...
I had a Subaru STI once.....yeaaa never want to go down that endless mod road ever again lol.

The interesting thing about these throttle controllers is, the more i read into them, the more they remind me of the throttle profiles i was able to choose on my rc trucks. The throttle curves in relation to the trigger position is almost identical. Watching that youtube vid kind of convinced me.

 

[SBMech]

Here's what I would like to know from somebody who is already using one of these -- Throttle Response Enhancement devices.

I'm not into street racing or stop light drag racing my F150 EB. So rapid launch times really isn't a priority. I appreciate linear throttle response for most of my activities.

However, one of my top priorities is the ability to promptly and rapidly pass on 2 lanes roads when required. Passing at speed, say 60 +MPH is never a problem, but can prove frustrating if you get bogged down to 30 or 40, get your shot, mash the peddle and the ECU seems to start a downshifting debate --- "which gear, ho hum, 4th, well maybe 3rd, ok, well I guess I'll shift now, but gotta keep my EPA numbers up there", that drives me friggin insane.

Point is, my frustration isn't with throttle response it's with transmission response. I've read nothing in regards to how these devices alter shift patterns or the response time of the ECU in making it's determination.

What say ye ?

Transmissions currently have maps, like fuel maps in the injection ecu, that alter shift points based upon the way it's being driven.

If you want your vehicle to shift faster, feel more responsive etc, then drive it like you stole it, it will kick it into a performance map vs fuel economy/comfort.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

BINGO! That is probably the only thing that bugs me about our JGC. Even with sport mode on the throttle delay was unbearable. Could i get the v6 tuned? Probably. Will i? Absolutely not. I have the personality that cant leave anything alone which is the reason i went with a V6 instead of the V8...
I had a Subaru STI once.....yeaaa never want to go down that endless mod road ever again lol.

The interesting thing about these throttle controllers is, the more i read into them, the more they remind me of the throttle profiles i was able to choose on my rc trucks. The throttle curves in relation to the trigger position is almost identical. Watching that youtube vid kind of convinced me.

Exactly. This is all "throttle exponential" for an RC car.

DBW throttles are intentionally made to respond very little for the first 2/3 of pedal travel to make gas mileage better. All this does is add response in the first half, and anything above that is floored or nearly floored. If you want more response, push the pedal further. The trans response is a separate issue.

 

[Taboma]

You need an engine and transmission tune. Drive it in tow/haul mode in lieu of that.

A tune is the ultimate solution.

These pedal commanders are just a gimmick that move the throttle blade more for a given pedal position. The car is not any faster.

When time allows for preparation, Tow-Haul or I can use manual mode to drop a couple of gears, but there's always those times when you want and need it NOW, when the wait gets frustrating, occasionally SCARY :eek

I've been down the tuner route with other more sporty vehicles, but I've been hesitant to screw with my otherwise problem free (so far, knock on wood) trusty truck. In the past going that route I've always sacrificed one thing to gain another. Later when the tuner is questioned, the response is either --- "yup, that's normal" or "Damn, first time I've heard of that" which leads to tossing more $$ at it

Getting good feedback from others is the tricky part, everybody loves to brag about how awesome it turned out, without elaborating on any associated negatives.

 

[pronstar]

You can use a tuner to just alter the tranny response and nothing else [emoji106]

By reducing shift overlap, imho a tranny can benefit in durability and/or longevity.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

When time allows for preparation, Tow-Haul or I can use manual mode to drop a couple of gears, but there's always those times when you want and need it NOW, when the wait gets frustrating, occasionally SCARY :eek

I've been down the tuner route with other more sporty vehicles, but I've been hesitant to screw with my otherwise problem free (so far, knock on wood) trusty truck. In the past going that route I've always sacrificed one thing to gain another. Later when the tuner is questioned, the response is either --- "yup, that's normal" or "Damn, first time I've heard of that" which leads to tossing more $$ at it

Getting good feedback from others is the tricky part, everybody loves to brag about how awesome it turned out, without elaborating on any associated negatives.

The key is getting the proper custom tune, and in your case it would likely be mostly on the transmission side.

I test drove a new Yukon when the 2015s came out. I hated the throttle and transmission response. It was so slow delayed I could floor and quickly let off the pedal and the RPM would barely start to rise, trans did nothing at all.

 

[Bpracing1127]

The tune on the f150 EB solves all the delayed throttle response and transmission finding a year tomorrow problems. I step on the gas at 40 it shift hard and goes no delay about it. Tunes improve throttle response by doing the same thing while actually adding power. Why not do one. This gimic is stupid!

 

[Taboma]

The tune on the f150 EB solves all the delayed throttle response and transmission finding a year tomorrow problems. I step on the gas at 40 it shift hard and goes no delay about it. Tunes improve throttle response by doing the same thing while actually adding power. Why not do one. This gimic is stupid!

Oh I wasn't considering the throttle response booster --- I have no complaints with my more linear throttle modulation. My leg is well practiced at mashing the go pedal :thumbsup

But to clarify, several of you have suggested "A Tune" for throttle, trans shifting, or both. Were you suggesting taking it to a tuner or buying and installing a tuner ? Or both ?

When I had my Whippled Ford 5.0 Miata I had a great tuner, right up until the FBI hauled him off for murdering two previous wives :yikes

SBMech -- Does the "Drive it like you stole it" performance mode require 200 miles of spirited driving, or does it change modes based on more immediate driving style ?

 

[SBMech]

Oh I wasn't considering the throttle response booster --- I have no complaints with my more linear throttle modulation. My leg is well practiced at mashing the go pedal :thumbsup

But to clarify, several of you have suggested "A Tune" for throttle, trans shifting, or both. Were you suggesting taking it to a tuner or buying and installing a tuner ? Or both ?

When I had my Whippled Ford 5.0 Miata I had a great tuner, right up until the FBI hauled him off for murdering two previous wives :yikes

SBMech -- Does the "Drive it like you stole it" performance mode require 200 miles of spirited driving, or does it change modes based on more immediate driving style ?

It takes around 10 minutes for it to stick for any period of time, otherwise it will rapidly drop back into economy mode, the more often you drive it hard, the faster it will shift to the performance map and it will stay there longer.

Go back to driving like grandma, and it will drop out of performance maps in a few minutes. The benefit of it swapping maps faster is from repeated flogging, it kicks up to the performance map faster and stays longer as you change your driving habits.

If you frequently let your wife drive it, make sure she has her own key. They are transponders that preload the characteristics of who drove it last.

 

[Racey]

Pressing on the gas more does not do what the PC does. The PC makes the truck respond faster.

No, that's exactly what it does. Making the throttle respond "faster" is impossible as it would have to see into the future and anticipate you pressing the throttle before you actually did. And removing the delay from the PCM is not possible without reflashing the system. It does exactly what STV_Keith described.

I don't know why the OEMs have so much throttle attack delay built into their software, it's one of the dumbest things in my opinion. They dampen the output way too much and it causes dangerous situations when you are trying to make left yields or pulling out into traffic. True drive by wire is capable of processing and outputting pedal position to throttle position faster than an actual cable is, there is a reason formula 1 has been using it for decades. Not to mention all of the other additional benefits DBW has, including simplicity of installation.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Simple, emissions and nanny controls for cars sold to people who have no business driving them.

It is only thing I absolutely detest with my Magnum.

You aren't kidding about left yields, pulling out into traffic or overtaking someone.....

Give it a little gas, car doesn't respond, give it more and then it finally does respond, trouble is the car is now well over throttled for what you even wanted and then you are at 1/2 or 3/4, and the next thing you know the car is spinning the tires and sideways.....took a bit to "get used to" the tremendous lag in response.



Brian

No, that's exactly what it does. Making the throttle respond "faster" is impossible as it would have to see into the future and anticipate you pressing the throttle before you actually did. And removing the delay from the PCM is not possible without reflashing the system. It does exactly what STV_Keith described.

I don't know why the OEMs have so much throttle attack delay built into their software, it's one of the dumbest things in my opinion. They dampen the output way too much and it causes dangerous situations when you are trying to make left yields or pulling out into traffic. True drive by wire is capable of processing and outputting pedal position to throttle position faster than an actual cable is, there is a reason formula 1 has been using it for decades. Not to mention all of the other additional benefits DBW has, including simplicity of installation.

 

[SBMech]

No, that's exactly what it does. Making the throttle respond "faster" is impossible as it would have to see into the future and anticipate you pressing the throttle before you actually did. And removing the delay from the PCM is not possible without reflashing the system. It does exactly what STV_Keith described.

I don't know why the OEMs have so much throttle attack delay built into their software, it's one of the dumbest things in my opinion. They dampen the output way too much and it causes dangerous situations when you are trying to make left yields or pulling out into traffic. True drive by wire is capable of processing and outputting pedal position to throttle position faster than an actual cable is, there is a reason formula 1 has been using it for decades. Not to mention all of the other additional benefits DBW has, including simplicity of installation.

Industry standard since the Toyota debacle. They make extra sure you are REALLY MASHING IT before it makes an adjustment.

I was talking about performance maps earlier in this thread, they affect the DBW input as well once you get it into the performance maps. They affect a lot actually.

Shift points, firmness of shifts, throttle response, slip regulation, steering feel, suspension (if an active suspension) firmness and ride height, down to safety features like BAS and stability control by shortening the reaction time of the brake system, pre-scuffing pads in anticipation of a braking event etc, it is amazing how many things that can be modified now, all with a few hard stabs of the go pedal..

 

[Mikemc1269]

I have one in my 2500, i have it set to city and the throttle is more responsive. When it is set to sport+ or whatever the highest setting is, it runs like a raped ape. My buddy sells them at his shop, give him a call and he'll go over it with you. Jason at sxs unlimited in simi valley

 

[tunnel vision]

I have a 2012 jeep rubicon unlimited six speed, 35's with a tune and the lag is horrible. I willing to try anything so I just ordered one and used discount code "JEEPGARAGE40" and got it for $259 and free shipping, we'll see what happens!

 

[n2otoofast4u]

Bumping this. Anyone using one of these on a late model 6.7 Powerstroke?

 

[BHC Vic]

No but where has sbmech been?

 

[LazyLavey]

I had one for about 8 years. worked fine til it went tits up.... changed it out for the Banks.

Highly recommend the Banks Pedal Monster.... Check out his website video where he compares the 2 in detail....

 

[n2otoofast4u]

No but where has sbmech been?

There are 4-5 names in here that haven’t been seen in quite some time.