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Car & Driver compares the top 3 brands: Ford, Chevy & Ram

If you're a Chevy fan put on your seatbelt - the review is pretty poor for "your brand"

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2019-ford-f-150-vs-chevrolet-silverado-vs-ram-1500-pickup

 

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Some Chevy lowlights: It's staggering just how stark the difference is between the Silverado and the two other trucks here. One logbook note called the Chevy "a $70,000 kick in the nuts." Technical editor David Beard wrote, "I like the engine in this truck, and that's it."

Our frustration with the Silverado is rooted in its ride and the noodly feel of the structure. Chevy followed its crosstown rival down the aluminum road only a short way, stamping the hood, doors, and tailgate from aluminum. The body and box are still steel. Chevy manages to undercut the Ford by 90 pounds just the same, though after driving the Silverado, we wished Chevy had put a little more beef into its structure. Those 22-inch wheels are the hammers, and the body is a dulcimer string. This truck shakes and vibrates so much that, bombing down a rough road, we expected to get a call from OnStar asking if we'd been in an accident. (We've had that experience before off-pavement.)

There's nothing like a $70,000 Silverado to prove just how far GM hasn't come with its interiors. The plastics look and feel cheap, and the design, even in this High Country model, feels phoned in. Our jurors all agreed that few things about this truck feel new; Tingwall decreed it "a throwback to the days when pickup trucks were not family transportation." It's a far cry from the luxury toy-hauler experiences offered by Ford and Ram.

 

[RiverDave]

I'm curious if those reviews carry over to the GMC brands as well?

RD

 

[Yellowboat]

I would assume the complaints about the chassis would hold over.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

I'm a GM guy, have been as long as I can remember. Even I'll admit it really seems as though GM shit the bed on this generation. It's too bad. They have a great 1/2 ton drive train but they can't manage to wrap up the rest of the package. If I were able to buy new, Ram would be my choice.

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[LargeOrangeFont]

I'm curious if those reviews carry over to the GMC brands as well?

RD

The trucks are the same, so yea. The GMC looks better though.

 

[Runs2rch]

We have a 17 LTZ. Best mod was the coilovers and shocks. GM needs to stop running shitty coil over struts. The valving is horrible. Stiff/no rebound.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

And honestly most of the ride harshness is in the stupid 22 inch wheel/tire setup.

That and a shock change will likely fix everything.

The interior is what it is though.

 

[Runs2rch]

And honestly most of the ride harshness is in the stupid 22 inch wheel/tire setup.

That and a shock change will likely fix everything.

The interior is what it is though.

That too. 17/18's correct tire psi is a huge difference.

 

[Rogers Hopeful]

Man step?

 

[RiverDave]

Man step?
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With all the functions that thing does I thought it was pretty damn cool. That said I remember them making fun of ford for their step ladder deal. LOL

RD

 

[Bpracing1127]

The Chevy has poor marks in driving and power train tests. Ford wins and performance and dodge not close behind!

 

[bowtiejunkie]

So because the RAM has a better interior and ride quality, it wins? It lost everywhere (or nearly) it counts for a TRUCK. The reviewers couldn't get past the interior, stereo, and infotainment system of the RAM. it's no wonder why I don't read Car and Driver anymore.

The 22 wheel/tire combo is ridiculous. I can't imagine that's a good combo should you find yourself in the dirt.

 

[Rogers Hopeful]

With all the functions that thing does I thought it was pretty damn cool. That said I remember them making fun of ford for their step ladder deal. LOL

RD

Thought it was a cool design but they ripped on ford for the man step for what seemed like a year. After shoveling rock out of my F350 4x4 I wish I would have gotten it. It’s a big step to get on the tailgate at stock hight and I’m 6’1”. Lol

 

[j21black]

My brother has an 18 GMC with the 22" wheels. The wheels look cool, but that's about it.

 

[ElAzul]

We have a 17 LTZ. Best mod was the coilovers and shocks. GM needs to stop running shitty coil over struts. The valving is horrible. Stiff/no rebound.

Same in my 17 Z71 the rancho's were horrible

 

[ArizonaKevin]

sounds like we want the 6.2 in the F150 chassis with the Ram interior.

 

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Here's Edmunds' review of the 2018's...

Best Full-Size Trucks
For many, the conversation about which pickup truck to buy starts and ends with the full-size segment. Balancing utility and practicality with ease, these pickups have greater towing and hauling capacities than midsize pickups, while they're generally both more comfortable and less expensive than heavy-duty workhorses. With seemingly infinite trim, powertrain and feature configurations, these are some of the most versatile vehicles on the market. Here are three standouts.

2018 Ram 1500

Front and rear seats are exceptionally comfortable and never get tiring, even on long road trips.

With its Bilstein shocks and all-terrain tires, the Ram 1500 Rebel is undoubtedly the choice for drivers looking for a little adventure.

The Ram comes in a wide variety of trims, ranging from the bargain-priced Tradesman to the swanky Limited.

Even though this Ram generation is nearly a decade old, the interior has been refreshed over time to maintain a modern look.

Front and rear seats are exceptionally comfortable and never get tiring, even on long road trips.

With its Bilstein shocks and all-terrain tires, the Ram 1500 Rebel is undoubtedly the choice for drivers looking for a little adventure.

The Ram comes in a wide variety of trims, ranging from the bargain-priced Tradesman to the swanky Limited.

Even though this Ram generation is nearly a decade old, the interior has been refreshed over time to maintain a modern look.

Front and rear seats are exceptionally comfortable and never get tiring, even on long road trips.


Edmunds Rating: 8.4 out of 10

It may have debuted all the way back in 2009, but the current Ram 1500 still feels like a revelation on rough roads. Instead of a traditional leaf-spring suspension in the rear, the Ram uses coil springs that yield an exceptionally comfortable ride. This setup also allows for an optional air suspension that not only makes the ride even cushier but also levels the truck out while towing or when the bed is weighed down. A replacement is due soon for the 2019 model year, but the current Ram 1500 is still fully competitive in its class. Read Full Review

Starting price (including destination fee): $28,490
Fuel economy: 14-23 combined mpg
Maximum towing capacity: 7,600 pounds (3.6L V6) to 10,620 pounds (5.7L V8)
Maximum payload capacity: 1,880 pounds
Horsepower: 240-395
Truck bed length: 5.6 feet-8.2 feet


2018 Ford F-150

Like all full-size trucks, the F-150 provides an absolutely cavernous interior in its crew-cab configuration.

The Ford F-150 has been slightly refreshed for 2018. While the biggest changes lie underhood, it makes a strong first impression thanks to a bold new grille.

Some trims feature a damped tailgate that can be lowered by pressing a button on the key fob.

The cabin is identical to that of pre-2018 models, which is a good thing since we liked the design and materials quality.

Like all full-size trucks, the F-150 provides an absolutely cavernous interior in its crew-cab configuration.

The Ford F-150 has been slightly refreshed for 2018. While the biggest changes lie underhood, it makes a strong first impression thanks to a bold new grille.

Some trims feature a damped tailgate that can be lowered by pressing a button on the key fob.

The cabin is identical to that of pre-2018 models, which is a good thing since we liked the design and materials quality.

Like all full-size trucks, the F-150 provides an absolutely cavernous interior in its crew-cab configuration.

Edmunds Rating: 8.1 out of 10

It doesn't have the Ram's exceptional ride quality, but the Ford F-150 has its own unique selling point: The bed and body panels are made of high-strength aluminum, resulting in a much lower weight than the segment norm. Not only does this advantage help give the F-150 class-leading tow ratings, it also pushes the maximum payload capacity well past 3,000 pounds. But the F-150 isn't just about workaday versatility. Both twin-turbo V6 engines offer great performance and solid fuel economy, while the Raptor's 450-horsepower motor is truly awesome. The clear differentiation between trim levels ensures that there's something for everyone in the F-150 range. Read Full Review

Starting price (including destination fee): $29,100
Fuel economy: 16-22 combined mpg
Maximum towing capacity: 7,700 pounds (3.3L V6) to 13,200 pounds (3.5L V6)
Maximum payload capacity: 3,270 pounds
Horsepower: 290-450
Truck bed length: 5.5 feet-8 feet


2018 Chevrolet Silverado 1500

The High Country will make you the envy of your Stetson-wearing friends. Embroidered headrests are just the start of this trim's additional luxuries.

Those who want maximum muscle should be quite pleased with the Silverado 1500's available 420-horsepower 6.2-liter V8.

The Silverado's popular Z71 package adds eye-catching 18-inch wheels and mechanical upgrades for off-road action.

Designed with passengers in mind, the Silverado's cabin features a considerable number of pockets and bins for storing items.

The High Country will make you the envy of your Stetson-wearing friends. Embroidered headrests are just the start of this trim's additional luxuries.

Those who want maximum muscle should be quite pleased with the Silverado 1500's available 420-horsepower 6.2-liter V8.

The Silverado's popular Z71 package adds eye-catching 18-inch wheels and mechanical upgrades for off-road action.

Designed with passengers in mind, the Silverado's cabin features a considerable number of pockets and bins for storing items.

The High Country will make you the envy of your Stetson-wearing friends. Embroidered headrests are just the start of this trim's additional luxuries.


Edmunds Rating: 7.2 out of 10

As with the Ram, there's a new Chevrolet Silverado 1500 just around the corner, but don't let that prevent you from checking out one of the best pickups on sale today. The 2018 model year is especially notable since a few desirable features — including a rearview camera, a touchscreen interface and Apple CarPlay/Android Auto functionality — are now standard across the board. Combine those items with an available 4G LTE Wi-Fi hotspot and it's clear that this burly truck can do more than just haul bales of hay, although it's also plenty good at that. Read Full Review

Starting price (including destination fee): $29,695
Fuel economy: 17-20 combined mpg
Maximum conventional towing capacity: 7,600 pounds (4.3L V6) to 12,500 pounds (6.2L V8)
Maximum fifth-wheel towing capacity: 7,500 pounds (4.3L V6) to 11,600 pounds (6.2L V8)
Maximum payload capacity: 2,250 pounds
Horsepower: 285-420
Truck bed length: 5.7 feet-8 feet


https://www.edmunds.com/truck/articles/best-pickup-trucks/

 

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sounds like we want the 6.2 in the F150 chassis with the Ram interior.

I wanna see the new 7.3-liter V-8 in the upcoming 2020 Super Duty trucks (should be revealed this year)...


Rumors have been swirling about a new engine from Ford to replace the aging 6.2-liter V8 and the 6.8-liter V10, and now an inside source has confirmed to TFLTruck that it will be a new 7.3-liter gas engine.

Well now a trusted source has put that to bed, telling TFL that the information leaked out at a UAW union meeting.

This will serve in Ford’s Super Duty and Medium Duty line of pickup trucks, stretching from the F-250 up to the F-750. Of course, nothing is known of the powerplant at this time, though it would be easy to assume that it will make more than the 385 horsepower and 288 hp found in the 6.2-liter and 6.8-liter respectively.

Somewhere close to 400 hp feels ideal for this engine, and we bet that is what Ford is aiming for.

The 10-speed automatic that has already spread throughout the F-150 lineup is another possible option, one that makes sense to help Ford’s Super Duty trucks with fuel economy.

Timing for the new engine is unknown, though we would bet that it will arrive sometime in early 2019.

Update: Our source, who chooses to remain anonymous, sent over a photo to confirm the news. It also mentions timing, saying that the new 7.3 will arrive in 2020.

https://www.tfltruck.com/2018/09/rumor-confirmed-a-new-7-3l-gas-v8-is-coming-to-the-ford-super-duty/

 

[ArizonaKevin]

I wanna see the new 7.3-liter V-8 in the upcoming 2020 Super Duty trucks (should be revealed this year)...


Rumors have been swirling about a new engine from Ford to replace the aging 6.2-liter V8 and the 6.8-liter V10, and now an inside source has confirmed to TFLTruck that it will be a new 7.3-liter gas engine.

Well now a trusted source has put that to bed, telling TFL that the information leaked out at a UAW union meeting.

This will serve in Ford’s Super Duty and Medium Duty line of pickup trucks, stretching from the F-250 up to the F-750. Of course, nothing is known of the powerplant at this time, though it would be easy to assume that it will make more than the 385 horsepower and 288 hp found in the 6.2-liter and 6.8-liter respectively.

Somewhere close to 400 hp feels ideal for this engine, and we bet that is what Ford is aiming for.

The 10-speed automatic that has already spread throughout the F-150 lineup is another possible option, one that makes sense to help Ford’s Super Duty trucks with fuel economy.

Timing for the new engine is unknown, though we would bet that it will arrive sometime in early 2019.

Update: Our source, who chooses to remain anonymous, sent over a photo to confirm the news. It also mentions timing, saying that the new 7.3 will arrive in 2020.

https://www.tfltruck.com/2018/09/rumor-confirmed-a-new-7-3l-gas-v8-is-coming-to-the-ford-super-duty/

That would be fun to stuff in an F150, especially if it has the fancy cylinder deactivation like the Chevy does.

 

[rivrrts429]

I just got a 2019 1500 Silverado for my daily driver. It now has 2k miles and I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone.

If I could take it back and get my 2015 back I’d be much happier.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I just got a 2019 1500 Silverado for my daily driver. It now has 2k miles and I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone.

If I could take it back and get my 2015 back I’d be much happier.

Maybe the roof will go bad and the dealer will unwind the deal?

 

[spectras only]

Some comments in the article are funny, calling the Chevy 'Shitterado'

 

[Uncle Dave]

So the "new" 7.3 not available in 1/2 ton truck then.

UD

 

[Xring01]

I dont think I could buy a new truck, even if I had to...

Maybe a used one that I got a smoking deal on...

New trucks, none of them are truly worth what you pay for them.

In the past 6-20 years ago...from the trucks my family has owned...
Seen brand new Fords, burn to the ground in our drive way. The replacement truck, tranny failed in under 40,000 miles. Lets not forget about the 6 liter debacles. A buddy of mine had 6 of them Lemon Lawed.. But he owns a large company.

Seen 3 year old Dodges practically fall apart, that was a diesel dually... Open the door and the rear of the door would drop 3 "... the same truck, the entire front wheel hub, came off while driving down the freeway at 65mph... It was a ranch truck, was used hard, but really, that truck was practically worthless in 5 years. Dodge has come along way since then.

All the Chevy's/GMC's we owned, held up well, and had great resale value... Which is why I prefer a GMC. The interiors/exteriors have held up very good. Chevy Power Plants have done us right.

I have two Bro In Laws that have owned Tundras in the past... The first one put over 350,000 miles on his, and sold it, bought a new one. Think he had to replace a Throttle Sensor which was expensive.. That was it, drove the heck out of it... The second put over 300,000 miles on his, and gave it to my nephew who drives it today. He had the same Throttle sensor issue on his...

But saying that, I wouldnt buy a new Chevy today.. New ones are just ugly. The designer that likes the front fender body line, needs to be slapped... Fit/Finish/Details... I am not impressed...

A buddy of mine borrowed my 2002 GMC 4door Long Bed 4x4 Diesel to tow a Bull Dozer to AZ about 3 weeks ago. My truck has held up very well for its age and 195,000 miles. No its not for sale. My buddy loved my truck, and offered to buy it, when he returned it. He left his 2016 Toyota Tundra for me to use while he had mine.

I liked the Toyota, felt like a solid truck, good power, handled very well, horrible fuel economy... I think it averaged 16.5... Ugggg

If I was forced to buy a new half ton truck today, it would be a Toyota... but I would have to be forced into it... Cause my 2002 GMC will most likely last me another 15 years.

If I had to buy a 2500 or larger diesel, then I would probably buy a Dodge...
After all the negative issues we have had with Fords, I will never own any Ford (Truck or Car) again.

BUT THATS MY OPINION.. take it or or leave it.

 

[brgrcru]

I cant believe men complain about how a truck rides?
A truck is still a truck, no matter what badge it has. and pretty much all the new trucks have plenty of lip stick and tampons.

but hey! if those fart smell prolonger heated seats floats your boat , then so be it.

 

[Uncle Dave]

Ride and interior the most important things? No

If im going to the lake or river I'm towing 4-5 hours each way.

All other things being equal - does how it rides hitched up to a boat matter to me?

Towing in the right two lanes towing over California increasingly shitty disaster they call a highway/freeway - hell yes it does especially on the trip home

Some section of my tow will about knock your teeth out in a good riding truck.

UD

 

[pronstar]

Man step?
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Seems redundant to the bumper steps.
I’m wondering how many people are gonna ding it on their trailer hitch...

GM’s research showed that current owners wanted minimal changes to the interior.

Why any company would basically carryover the interior for what is supposed to be an all-we truck is beyond me...this is what happens when you’re protecting market share and listen to focus groups and bean counters too much, which is what got GM into trouble pre-BK


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[pronstar]

So because the RAM has a better interior and ride quality, it wins? It lost everywhere (or nearly) it counts for a TRUCK. The reviewers couldn't get past the interior, stereo, and infotainment system of the RAM. it's no wonder why I don't read Car and Driver anymore.

The 22 wheel/tire combo is ridiculous. I can't imagine that's a good combo should you find yourself in the dirt.

Consider the source:
Car and Driver
Not Truck and Driver


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[pronstar]

So the "new" 7.3 not available in 1/2 ton truck then.

UD

I don’t think so.
2500 and up trucks have different emission classifications, and aren’t part of CAFE numbers.


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[RiverDave]

So because the RAM has a better interior and ride quality, it wins? It lost everywhere (or nearly) it counts for a TRUCK. The reviewers couldn't get past the interior, stereo, and infotainment system of the RAM. it's no wonder why I don't read Car and Driver anymore.

The 22 wheel/tire combo is ridiculous. I can't imagine that's a good combo should you find yourself in the dirt.

I'm pretty sure they gave the Honda Ridgeline best truck of the year once.. So there's that?

RD

 

[River Lynchmob]

That would be fun to stuff in an F150, especially if it has the fancy cylinder deactivation like the Chevy does.

It's going to a bad ass mother in the Raptor!

 

[Uncle Dave]

I'm pretty sure they gave the Honda Ridgeline best truck of the year once.. So there's that?

RD

Be Nice!

I love my Ridgeline.....

UD

 

[pronstar]

Same in my 17 Z71 the rancho's were horrible

So because the RAM has a better interior and ride quality, it wins? It lost everywhere (or nearly) it counts for a TRUCK. The reviewers couldn't get past the interior, stereo, and infotainment system of the RAM. it's no wonder why I don't read Car and Driver anymore.

The 22 wheel/tire combo is ridiculous. I can't imagine that's a good combo should you find yourself in the dirt.

My 2015 Z71 that I recently bought CPO was absolute crap with the Ranchos, even with factory tires.

It’s a creampuff with the Kings I installed, even with 33” E-rated LT tires.
Way better than stock.

I’d never buy a new truck or car again.
3-year old CPO for 50 cents on the dollar, and a better warranty than new, is how I’m rolling now (and will continue moving forward).


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[RiverDave]

Be Nice!

I love my Ridgeline.....

UD

It's true they awarded it truck of the year.. and it couldn't do any "truck" shit 1/4 as good as a truck! LOL Ya know like Hauling / Towing / etc.. It was when it first came out

RD

 

[hallett21]

It's true they awarded it truck of the year.. and it couldn't do any "truck" shit 1/4 as good as a truck! LOL Ya know like Hauling / Towing / etc.. It was when it first came out

RD

It’s on the mini van frame. Be nice


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It's going to a bad ass mother in the Raptor!

Guaranteed that ain't happening!

 

[WhatExit?]

Car and Driver is just one source for vehicle info. If you don't agree with them look around there are plenty of other reviews showing the Chevy as the 3rd place finisher in the full-size pickup reviews.

As for their review of the Honda Ridgeline, they do pick it as the mid-size pickup and they explain why/how: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2019-honda-ridgeline-long-term-test-intro-review

I wouldn't buy one if I NEEDED a truck but if I was looking at SUVs and didn't need to tow more than 5,000 lbs. I'd be all over it - it does everything else really well including MPGs

 

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FCA Unveiling Heavy Duty Version Of Red-Hot Ram Pickup At North American Show In Detroit

About a quarter of the full-size pickup business is heavy-duty trucks, which are able to carry and tow larger loads and often preferred by those who are using them for more than personal transportation.

In 2017, Ford owned 38% of the full-size pickup business in the US with its F-Series; GM had 34% with its Silverado and GMC Sierra; and FCA’s Ram was a distant third with 21%. Still, given the average Ram retail transaction price, as calculated by Kelley Blue Book, FCA’s big pickup represented nearly $23 billion worth of business for dealers.

The latest Ram has been thoroughly redesigned, with a look that is quite different than the truck it replaces. The previous version had pronounced front fenders, giving it a distinct and deliberate resemblance to the cab of a semitrailer rig. The new one sheds the big-rig persona and projects a much more sophisticated mien. Also gone is the cross-hair grill, which recalled the cross hairs of a weapon sight.

As FCA ramps up production of the new Ram, the automaker will continue to sell the previous model until the changeover is complete.

Last month, spy photographers operating in the vicinity of FCA’s Chelsea, Michigan captured what appeared to be camouflaged versions of the three-quarter ton heavy-duty (HD) versions of the new Ram. Large, muscular and favored by extremely macho types as well as by farmers, ranchers and others needing to haul or tow heavy loads.

Rumor is it will have an updated CUMMINS (no 'G')...

 

[Bigbore500r]

Maybe the roof will go bad and the dealer will unwind the deal?

Only if they delivered and took back a 2019 ram the day before

 

[bk2drvr]

I purchased a 2018 Sierra 1500 CC std 6.5’ bed Z71 on Christmas of 2017 and I love it. I’ve put 26k miles on it since and it’s super comfortable for long drives of which I’ve taken many so far. I will level it eventually with coilovers and UCA’s and bigger tires. It drives very smooth, a real road machine.

Was in mammoth last week and the roads were snowy and icy and i ran around in auto 4wd and Im amazed how well Auto 4wd works. The transition from 2wd to 4wd is undetectable but the more impressive part about it is the immediate engaging of 4wd when slipping occurs. There is no sensation of wheel spin prior to 4wd engaging. This tech has been around for a long time but I’m still impressed how well it works.

A lot of people poo pooing the new GM trucks. I’m not sure what to make of it. I’m a big GM fan owned several the past 20 years. Need to see how the next couple of years pan out hopefully they can make improvements in the areas that people are complaining about.

 

[Xring01]

View attachment 716796 I purchased a 2018 Sierra 1500 CC std 6.5’ bed Z71 on Christmas of 2017 and I love it. I’ve put 26k miles on it since and it’s super comfortable for long drives of which I’ve taken many so far. I will level it eventually with coilovers and UCA’s and bigger tires. It drives very smooth, a real road machine.

Was in mammoth last week and the roads were snowy and icy and i ran around in auto 4wd and Im amazed how well Auto 4wd works. The transition from 2wd to 4wd is undetectable but the more impressive part about it is the immediate engaging of 4wd when slipping occurs. There is no sensation of wheel spin prior to 4wd engaging. This tech has been around for a long time but I’m still impressed how well it works.

A lot of people poo pooing the new GM trucks. I’m not sure what to make of it. I’m a big GM fan owned several the past 20 years. Need to see how the next couple of years pan out hopefully they can make improvements in the areas that people are complaining about.

I am GMC kinda guy myself, but the new ones are FUGLY... that front fender... wtf where they thinking?

I agree they are reliable, agree they ride pretty good, agree they have a great resale value..

After about 2008, they just dont appeal to me...

 

[Yellowboat]

The resell value of trucks is do too the insane asking prices for new ones. 70k is the better part of a year for me.

 

[Uncle Dave]

As for their review of the Honda Ridgeline, they do pick it as the mid-size pickup and they explain why/how: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2019-honda-ridgeline-long-term-test-intro-review

I wouldn't buy one if I NEEDED a truck but if I was looking at SUVs and didn't need to tow more than 5,000 lbs. I'd be all over it - it does everything else really well including MPGs

Im lucky enough to have 2 vehicles and rather than a truck and a car I have a full size and mid-sized truck.

My life mirrors the Pareto principle nearly identically 80/20

80+% of the time I'm towing air or have 5K or less on the hitch.
20% of the time I need and take the bigger truck.

The Ridgeline does this duty beautifully and rides like a performance sedan.

Drive it easy on cruise and it will get amazing MPG. Stomp on it and it goes 0-60 in 6.4 - pretty stout for an NA/V6 AWD vehicle that gets this mileage.

This was heading to Glamis from West LA mostly 70 on the freeway and 67 on the 2 lane blacktop stretches where I'm basically stuck between a string of trucks .

UD

 

[Chili Palmer]

The High Country interior? Yuck! That's baby shit brown!

I too have been a GM guy since I started driving 40 years ago, but they shat the bed on the new truck design. It's butt ugly and the dash doesn't blend well - it's all flat.

My daily driver is a 2011 Silverado with the Duramax, I've tuned it up to about 550 hp and about 900 ft/lbs. torque. It hauls ass, it's comfy for a 3/4 ton truck, it's got about a quarter million miles on it and it's still on the original brakes. If I had to replace it I'd probably look for a 2016 Denali HD, if I went to a 1/2 ton I'd seriously look at a Raptor, I just wish they offered them with a 6-1/2 foot bed. I've got to have my get-up and go. I hate a slow vehicle.

 

[milkmoney]

I have 17 Z71 chevy and it seems to run and ride good. Comfortable and does what I need it to do ....drove all over the western United states.

All these things you guys talk about , I don't see or feel them [emoji106][emoji202]

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Edit. God damn pic is sideways. Fuck me.

 

[River Lynchmob]

Guaranteed that ain't happening!

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there are a dozen articles like this that say the same thing...https://speedtwitch.com/report-2019-f-150-raptor-to-receive-fords-new-7-0l-dohc-v8-motor/

 

[Danger Dave]

Motor Trend also picked the Ram for their truck of the year.

 

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SPIED: 2020 Ford F-Series Super Duty in F-250 and F-450 Forms
Aug 6, 2018 View Photo Gallery | 18 Photos



Ford will comprehensively update the 2020 F-Series Super Duty to match incoming competition from the all-new Chevy Silverado HD and Ram Heavy Duty. Mirroring many of the updates made to the 2018 Ford F-150, expect the new Super Duty to receive altered exterior styling and new powertrains to keep the big truck relevant.



The Super Duty’s skin isn’t readily visible under Ford’s stippled powertrain, but we can clearly make out an updated grille that abandons the current truck’s twin-bar design. The 2020 Super Duty will replace that styling feature with a much more open grille, adorned with a big Ford logo in the middle. We also expect a new headlight design, and the rear end will receive a more sculpted tailgate and more modern taillights.






Above: 2020 Ford F 450 Super Duty Front Grille





Spy photographers spotted the 2020 F-Series Super Duty testing in two variants: An F-250 crew cab and an unusual 10-lug dualie wearing 19.5-inch wheels and a regular cab body. Its hub and wheel layout would suggest this is an F-450, but we’re thrown off by the small cab—currently, the F-450 is available to private customers in crew cab form only. Of course, the vehicle could be a test mule for the fleet F-450, which is available with a regular cab and no cargo box. Or it could presage a retail-ready F-450 regular cab, destined for privateers who want big towing capability but don’t need seating for five.



Above: 2020 Ford F 250 Super Duty Front Quarter 01
Under the hood of the 2020 Super Duty will likely be updated versions of the lineup’s current engines: a 6.2L gasoline V-8 and a 6.7L turbodiesel V-8. Expect the former to get a big power boost over its current 385 hp and 430 lb-ft (we wouldn’t be surprised to see it hit 400 hp and 500 lb-ft), and the diesel will likely receive another 15 lb-ft, for a total of 950.




There are also rumors Ford will introduce a new 7.3L V-8 to replace the thirsty 6.8L V-10 available in fleet configurations, which only produces 288 hp and 424 lb-ft. Expect the new V-8 to make a diesel-rivaling 475 hp, along with 550 lb-ft or so.

What’s more, the new 2020 Super Duty will be Ford’s first big truck to receive its 10-speed automatic transmission. The gearbox, jointly developed with General Motors, is already available in the 2018 F-150 and Expedition, as well as the Lincoln Navigator, Chevrolet Suburban RST, GMC Yukon Denali, and Cadillac Escalade. It’ll also make an appearance in the 2019 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 and is expected for the 2020 Chevrolet Silverado HD.

Ford isn’t likely to reveal much about the new Super Duty until closer to its on-sale date late 2019. Expect a full reveal of the new truck at the 2019 North American International Auto Show in January.




Above: 2020 Ford F 250 Super Duty Front Grille

 

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