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I would go with Camburg UCA’s. Look at their “Kinetic” series. Machined cap over the uniball. Functional and looks nice.


I don’t even have the truck yet but I’ve ordered the Kings LOL, since there’s 4-5 week build time. I guess I’ll suffer in the meantime

Going to go with King 2.5 coilovers up front, 2.5 piggybacks in the rear on stock leaf packs.
Standard King valving.
2.5” lift in front, minimal in rear, want to level it out and not lift it unnecessarily.

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Depending on the UCA’s my truck came with, I’m going with Icon Deltajoint UCA’s, or Camburg Uniballs.

The brand snob in me wants Camburg.

But the Deltajoints are sealed and don’t require maintenance (or make noise) like uniballs.

I’ll run the factory wheels with 285/65-18 (33”) Nitto Trail Grappler MT tires. They’re the closest thing to Toyo Open Country MT’s...which is basically the same tire. Toyo MT’s aren’t available in this size.

What do you guys think?


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Call Ryan at Kibbetech. He’s a good buddy of mine. His stuff is top notch. He’s done some work for me on my toys, and he does all the fab work on my work trucks.
 

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Moderate off road, nothing really high speed out here. Getting to hunting spots. Lots of clay and mud. And epically shitty roads LOL

I had deavers on my 3/4 ton.

This is a half ton with way softer springs, I’m gonna see how it is with the factory springs before I decide to do deavers.


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You can also buy new sliders and polish the pads on the stock leafs to gain some free movement of them. I’ve done it in the past and keep saying I’m going to do to my truck now but always have thirty other things to do.
 

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Looks like I have factory stamped steel control arms, so I can run Icon Delta Joint UCA's.

Apparently GM offered these trucks with aluminum arms also.
And beginning in 2016, they added forged steel arms to the mix.
From what I gather, there's no rhyme or reason on which arms your truck was built with.

You're restricted to running Icon Uniball UCA's if equipped.
The Camburg kits are all uniball, and they come with adapters no matter what arms your truck has.
Different UCA companies vary in what they offer, so do your homework.

This is all new to me...why does GM make shit so complicated LOL
 

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Looks like I have factory stamped steel control arms, so I can run Icon Delta Joint UCA's.

Apparently GM offered these trucks with aluminum arms also.
And beginning in 2016, they added forged steel arms to the mix.
From what I gather, there's no rhyme or reason on which arms your truck was built with.

You're restricted to running Icon Uniball UCA's if equipped.
The Camburg kits are all uniball, and they come with adapters no matter what arms your truck has.
Different UCA companies vary in what they offer, so do your homework.

This is all new to me...why does GM make shit so complicated LOL
Exactly. Fox had a ton of issues. Aluminum arms would gain a 1/2 inch more lift with 2.0's being cast thicker. I have a 17 with stamped arms.

Did you check out Total Chaos uca's?
 

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Exactly. Fox had a ton of issues. Aluminum arms would gain a 1/2 inch more lift with 2.0's being cast thicker. I have a 17 with stamped arms.

Did you check out Total Chaos uca's?
I want to give Icon’s Delta Joint a try


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Im cuious how the UCA construction has anything to do with which aftermarket arm you can run? They should all use the same frame mounts (GM leanred their lesson from the early 2000's when they built their 2wd with coils and 4WD and some other packages with torsion bars), and I cant imagine knuckles being much different if at all.

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Im cuious how the UCA construction has anything to do with which aftermarket arm you can run? They should all use the same frame mounts (GM leanred their lesson from the early 2000's when they built their 2wd with coils and 4WD and some other packages with torsion bars), and I cant imagine knuckles being much different if at all.

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From icon and what I’ve found:

This system ONLY fits vehicles equipped with the large spindle taper bore (.783"). For models equipped with small spindle taper bore (.6875") see part #K73002

The stamped steel arms have a smaller spindle taper bore.
The aluminum arms have a larger spindle taper bore.

So I guess it’s the spindle?


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From icon and what I’ve found:

This system ONLY fits vehicles equipped with the large spindle taper bore (.783"). For models equipped with small spindle taper bore (.6875") see part #K73002

The stamped steel arms have a smaller spindle taper bore.
The aluminum arms have a larger spindle taper bore.

So I guess it’s the spindle?


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Exactly. Thanks GM!!! Hahaha
 

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I’m not hating these tires.

I’m thinking about keeping them and saving a grand...

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From icon and what I’ve found:

This system ONLY fits vehicles equipped with the large spindle taper bore (.783"). For models equipped with small spindle taper bore (.6875") see part #K73002

The stamped steel arms have a smaller spindle taper bore.
The aluminum arms have a larger spindle taper bore.

So I guess it’s the spindle?


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Very interesting. I wonder if you could just have it bored out to the larger diameter taper? Or, I bet you can find some take off factory knuckles (they aren't spindles. I hate when companies use the incorrect terms then they get adopted by the masses that dont realize better).

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Very interesting. I wonder if you could just have it bored out to the larger diameter taper? Or, I bet you can find some take off factory knuckles (they aren't spindles. I hate when companies use the incorrect terms then they get adopted by the masses that dont realize better).

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I forget which arms they were but in the instructions you drill the knuckle if needed.
 

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From Camburg:
We now include 2 sets of uniball adapter spacers and bolts to fit all years since Chevy has a small and large tapers in the spindles/knuckles. This way you’ll have every part needed regardless of your year and build date.


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I’m not hating these tires.

I’m thinking about keeping them and saving a grand...



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I ran them on my truck until they were wore out. Quiet and did well in all different scenarios we see up here in North Idaho(mud, dirt, snow, and ice)
I replaced them with Nitto Terra Grappler G2's 275/70/18. A bit more noise, better looking, and eats into my mileage (not a huge concern as I drive an average of 50-60 miles a week)

Looking forward to hearing how the Kings work out for you.
 

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Icon UCAs are at the shop. Still waiting on my Kings...

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Kings have been built and just need to be picked up...then shipped out to me.

This wait is killing me but I should have everything by early next week


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I don’t even have the truck yet but I’ve ordered the Kings LOL, since there’s 4-5 week build time. I guess I’ll suffer in the meantime

Going to go with King 2.5 coilovers up front, 2.5 piggybacks in the rear on stock leaf packs.
Standard King valving.
2.5” lift in front, minimal in rear, want to level it out and not lift it unnecessarily.

View attachment 675651

Depending on the UCA’s my truck came with, I’m going with Icon Deltajoint UCA’s, or Camburg Uniballs.

The brand snob in me wants Camburg.

But the Deltajoints are sealed and don’t require maintenance (or make noise) like uniballs.

I’ll run the factory wheels with 285/65-18 (33”) Nitto Trail Grappler MT tires. They’re the closest thing to Toyo Open Country MT’s...which is basically the same tire. Toyo MT’s aren’t available in this size.

What do you guys think?


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Nice looking truck right out of the box, except for the white lettering on the outside of the tires....when is Detroit going to figure out that looks like shit......or maybe a lot of dorks in Ohio like it.
 

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Everything’s been shipped, should arrive Monday.

Install suspension Tuesday.
Install tires Wednesday (if I can’t get squeezed-in Tuesday).

Truck should be ready to rock by the middle of next week


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Brown Santa paid my truck a visit today!

Install is set for tomorrow.
Hopefully will have brought time to get my tires mounted as well.

Really looking forward to how these Delta Joint upper arms fare over time. I haven’t read many reviews but CJC says they’re the ticket for good strength combined with no squeaks and overall longevity.

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You have enough metal in those boxes to send a kid to college for a year. Or feed a Ethiopian kid for the rest of his life.

Nice choice :)
 

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Tires and shocks installed.

Tires are noisy/bumpy at walking speeds, then smooth right out.
Surprisingly quiet for an MT, just a gentle hum that’s barely audible.

The OEM shocks were toast, so hard to compare to a true stock truck.

So far the ride quality is no worse, rebound is a million times better, and the ride is compliant and well-damped.

Hit some train tracks at speed and the truck just shrugged.
I dunno if it will be as capable and composed off-road as my custom Carli-suspended Ram 2500 was, time will tell.

But the ride on-road is awesome, which is expected when comparing a 1500 to a 2500.

I’ll post up when I get more seat time, but so far I’m in love.

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There’s some dips near my house that I usually have to slow way down for.

Took them at speed today, put some energy into the shocks.

They sucked it up, super composed.

I’m definitely impressed.


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So the shop that did the install did cut the service perch/stop off. I have about a half inch between the arm and stop. Haven't made contact with it yet. Might cut it off also.

Looks great. My stock struts and shocks were done also. 17k miles.
 

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So the shop that did the install did cut the service perch/stop off. I have about a half inch between the arm and stop. Haven't made contact with it yet. Might cut it off also.

Looks great. My stock struts and shocks were done also. 17k miles.
Yeah I had the service perches cut off. Everyone online and at the shop calls them bumpstops even tho they limit down travel...go figure.

Here’s some moar pics.

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Keep me posted on the Trail Grapplers wear/noise wise.
 

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Those stock wheels are killing the look.
Wheels will make a huge difference.
Here is one if the many trucks I should have kept.
 
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I don’t even have the truck yet but I’ve ordered the Kings LOL, since there’s 4-5 week build time. I guess I’ll suffer in the meantime

Going to go with King 2.5 coilovers up front, 2.5 piggybacks in the rear on stock leaf packs.
Standard King valving.
2.5” lift in front, minimal in rear, want to level it out and not lift it unnecessarily.

View attachment 675651

Depending on the UCA’s my truck came with, I’m going with Icon Deltajoint UCA’s, or Camburg Uniballs.

The brand snob in me wants Camburg.

But the Deltajoints are sealed and don’t require maintenance (or make noise) like uniballs.

I’ll run the factory wheels with 285/65-18 (33”) Nitto Trail Grappler MT tires. They’re the closest thing to Toyo Open Country MT’s...which is basically the same tire. Toyo MT’s aren’t available in this size.

What do you guys think?


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they sure have been good for me
 

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Great stance Pronstar!! I would kill to have a truck that rides that nice. The majority of the guys I ride with have the Trail Grapplers and happier with those than anything that they have run in decades.
 

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Truck looks good. Sounds like the kings were money well spent.
 

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Keep me posted on the Trail Grapplers wear/noise wise.

Slightly bumpy at a walking pace, but they smooth right out when driving.
Noise is much less than anticipated, just a barely audible hum on the highway.
And they track straight, unlike Toyo MTs that have a slight radial pull.

The tire are HEAVY...they feel twice as heavy as the P-rated tires the truck came with.
Slight decrease in felt power, and its downshifting on highway grades that it held in 6th gear previously.
I want to program for tire size, but need an aftermarket tuner to do it, and I like my warranty...

Considering how much stiffer the sidewalls are, I honestly didn't expect it to ride this good.
The Kings obviously play large roll in that.
 

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Slightly bumpy at a walking pace, but they smooth right out when driving.
Noise is much less than anticipated, just a barely audible hum on the highway.
And they track straight, unlike Toyo MTs that have a slight radial pull.

The tire are HEAVY...they feel twice as heavy as the P-rated tires the truck came with.
Slight decrease in felt power, and its downshifting on highway grades that it held in 6th gear previously.
I want to program for tire size, but need an aftermarket tuner to do it, and I like my warranty...

Considering how much stiffer the sidewalls are, I honestly didn't expect it to ride this good.
The Kings obviously play large roll in that.
The 33" Toyo's shouldn't have any radial pull, maybe in a 37"+ tire but that is going to be damn near most every manufacture.
 

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You better rotate those tires more frequent then you change your oil, I've had much better luck with the Toyo R/T's or even M/T's for that matter. I'd say you wont get more then 25-30k of life out of them.
I will give Nitto some props on the new Ridge Grappler, it has held up on our chase truck pretty well.
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Toyo MT's are my favorites, but they didn't make them in the size I wanted.
The Nitto construction specs are the same as the Toyos, made at the same plant, so I'm hoping for the best.
 
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