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I read somewhere that most of the power out if parker dam is used to run all those pumps.
 

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I read somewhere that most of the power out if parker dam is used to run all those pumps.
Parker dam can produce 120MW.

Using a rough figure of 800W / 1 HP, it takes 10MW to run those pumps and produce 12,500 HP.

Not counting losses, the pump plant should only consume about 10% of what the Parker dam is capable of generating.
 
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Parker dam can produce 120MW.

Using a rough figure of 800W / 1 HP, it takes 10MW to run those pumps and produce 12,500 HP.

Not counting losses, the pump plant should only consume about 10% of what the Parker damn is capable of generating.
I believe the Parker Hydro-Electric was built to serve the aqueduct main intake pumps (Lake Havasu) and the Gene Wash lift pumps. Also, that horsepower, which varies per pumping station, as do the number of pumps, plus how many are running, is for each pump, not a total.
Per the aqueduct maps, Eagle Mountain and Iron Mountain pumping stations appear to be fed from the Hoover dam transmission grid, although I'm sure they're all tied into the grid for power redundancy. MWD was a major funding source for the construction of Hoover Dam.
 

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I enjoy researching and reading these types of historical marvels built during an era when human's were creating the seemingly impossible using their brains and brawn.
Bolsters my confidence of what mankind is capable of, despite this nagging lack of optimism for future generations.
If anybody is interested, some great pictures and I think, a fascinating historical report on the California River Aqueduct, that made the three lakes we so enjoy possible.

The historical story and especially pictures on this site are very very cool.

This is the called the Colorado River Aqueduct " Recording Project " 64 PDF pages of a very detailed history and information.

I think this highly detailed map from around 1938, which on the link's site, can be zoomed in for much greater detail than the small example I'm posting, due to the size of the original document.


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who is polishing 90 year old generators, and the copper lines on the left, i never look forward to the boat polishing. :oops:
 

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Parker dam can produce 120MW.

Using a rough figure of 800W / 1 HP, it takes 10MW to run those pumps and produce 12,500 HP.

Not counting losses, the pump plant should only consume about 10% of what the Parker dam is capable of generating.
I believe there are at least 15 of those pumps.
 

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I believe there are at least 15 of those pumps.
Was told by a person working for mwd at these pump stations that roughly 25% of the power generated at Hoover is consumed by the pumps. I assume she meant the entire line but can't say for certain.
 

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Was told by a person working for mwd at these pump stations that roughly 25% of the power generated at Hoover is consumed by the pumps. I assume she meant the entire line but can't say for certain.
Was this on a boat ramp?
 

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met someone in town recently that works there, they told me you pretty much gotta know "somebody" to get your app pushed to the front.
It's probably just a dog and pony show listing. I'm sure they already have someone lined up.

My HS girlfriend's dad offered me a job at the LA DWP. Like an idiot, I turned my nose up at it.

What a complete dipshit I was. 🙄
 

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met someone in town recently that works there, they told me you pretty much gotta know "somebody" to get your app pushed to the front.
A member here works for them if I recall. @nordictom . Have a friend that works for them and a few friends family members if a member wanted the job and needs insight.
 

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It's probably just a dog and pony show listing. I'm sure they already have someone lined up.

My HS girlfriend's dad offered me a job at the LA DWP. Like an idiot, I turned my nose up at it.

What a complete dipshit I was. 🙄
yup, same with the city of havasu. interviewed with them a while back and immediately picked up on it that my interview was just a formality and they already had the position marked for someone "in the club"
 

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met someone in town recently that works there, they told me you pretty much gotta know "somebody" to get your app pushed to the front.
Guy who works for Misty at bob Moses works there, he goes in for like three days and lives there then has 5 or 6 days off I think is how it works.
 

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That ain’t shit.... Says the RDP crowd
It's really not. But, when you combine it with the unreal benefits package they provide, it would be hard to pass up a job like that if you could get it. You'd be set for life at that point. 👍
 

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met someone in town recently that works there, they told me you pretty much gotta know "somebody" to get your app pushed to the front.
Years ago I tried to get on with the State of CA dam crews and was told you start in the Prisons and wait your turn. I made it to Oakland Ca, CALTRANS but couldnt handle sitting around all day waiting for light bulbs to burn out.
 

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The company I work for was part of a shutdown on the pipelines coming out of Havasu and two of the other pump stations downstream in Feb this year. Those buildings are so bad ass, it's like walking into a time machine. They have marble or some other really expensive stone for flooring with brass inlay designs. It feels like you're walking through a museum. It was awesome watching the sun rise over Havasu while we worked.

The second picture is where the three pipelines going up the hill merge into one larger pipe. Really crazy how they used to build things back in the day! There is no weird division or combination of photos for this picture, those vertical dividers are the structure for the three-way wye into the larger pipe. All of these pipes coming out of the pump houses were originally riveted together at the joints. We reinforced all the riveted joints with internally welded buttstraps across the joints.

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Was told by a person working for mwd at these pump stations that roughly 25% of the power generated at Hoover is consumed by the pumps. I assume she meant the entire line but can't say for certain.
The original purpose of the Parker Dam hydro-electric plant was solely to power the pumps at the Lake Havasu pumping station. It originally wasn't even hooked up to any external power grid. It wasn't until 1954 that transmission lines were wired to the Dam for general power. Even today, 50% of the total power (120MW/457GWh annual) generated goes to power the Havasu MWD plant and the CAP Mark Wilmer pumping plant across the lake.
 

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I believe the Parker Hydro-Electric was built to serve the aqueduct main intake pumps (Lake Havasu) and the Gene Wash lift pumps. Also, that horsepower, which varies per pumping station, as do the number of pumps, plus how many are running, is for each pump, not a total.
Per the aqueduct maps, Eagle Mountain and Iron Mountain pumping stations appear to be fed from the Hoover dam transmission grid, although I'm sure they're all tied into the grid for power redundancy. MWD was a major funding source for the construction of Hoover Dam.
12,500 hp is per pump.


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Parker dam can produce 120MW.

Using a rough figure of 800W / 1 HP, it takes 10MW to run those pumps and produce 12,500 HP.

Not counting losses, the pump plant should only consume about 10% of what the Parker dam is capable of generating.
Right now, Eagle Mtn is using 77.2 MW 8 pumps running.

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I got in without knowing anyone, there were people hired from different states as they advertise positions nation wide when necessary.
Nobody works three days and gets five or six off, complete BS. Remote locations provide housing but you still are stuck there, I was lucky and had 4/10 schedule and office located above Parker dam but lots of OT and on-call even if you don't want it lol.
If someone doesn't make it past application process to interview process maybe they were not qualified?
 

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I got in without knowing anyone, there were people hired from different states as they advertise positions nation wide when necessary.
Nobody works three days and gets five or six off, complete BS. Remote locations provide housing but you still are stuck there, I was lucky and had 4/10 schedule and office located above Parker dam but lots of OT and on-call even if you don't want it lol.
If someone doesn't make it past application process to interview process maybe they were not qualified?
Above Parker dam?? As in, the windows you see above the flood gate chains??
 

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Above Parker dam?? As in, the windows you see above the flood gate chains??
Ha, no, at Gene the next pump plant up MWD road. I worked at a lot of the facilities and mountain tops on microwave, two way and network equipment. Always on the road.
 

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A member here works for them if I recall. @nordictom . Have a friend that works for them and a few friends family members if a member wanted the job and needs insight.
Thanks for Mentioning me NicPaus!

I think I can speak with experience (28 years at MWD). Sorry for the delayed response, just too busy to stay on RDP . I work at Lake Mathews, Const. Services Unit. For those that don't know, we are the MWD internal construction "company".

I looked at most of the responses, we do have different schedules, 4-10, 9-80, 5-8. Some classifications work 12 hour shifts, 24 /7. some the Desert Region jobs work: 4 on, 4 off, 4 on 2 off. e.g. M-Th: off Fri-Mon: Tue-Fri: of Sat - Sun: repeat...................

As far as getting hired, I think I have said this before, READ the job description. All applications are sent in via email, and then screened by HR Analyst(s), and I don't for sure; "computer Software" looking for key words. Knowing someone, and not knowing the job that you are applying for won't get you anywhere.

Oh, and BTW, the Supervisors Association in our last MOU, got MWD to implement a form all involved in the interview & testing progress need to sign, indicating that they are not related or other connection to the applicants. This was due to a ton of BS going on in the Desert Region.

Ok, NEXT; Benefits....... ours are pretty standard for working for a larger company. We do get sick time, vacation time, but as far as Medical, eye, dental; my daughter has better plans than me at the Corp where she works.


With the new CalPers retire plan (PEPRA) signed into law by Moon Beam, this doesn't make us very attractive, retirement wise.

If you really want to see some insight into MWD, read the LA Times articles that have been written about us. Follow that up with a report that was just released (can be found on the MWD Website) by the Shaw Law Group. And take it all for what's its worth.

Feel free to message me......................... NT
 

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Mike kern used to work there nuclear engineer title made great money he offered me a job some water tech job 1991
 

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Hey guys, I've always wondered...

How much liquid fills pipes like that?
Are the pipes 100% full of liquid, or 80% (?) full with an air gap between the liquid and the roof of the pipe?
Is there less liquid in pipes going up hill, like the pipes in the pics?
 

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Pushed only, or pushed and also pulled from the top?
 

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Just pushed to an open area at the top where the three lines combine and start flowing downhill to the next lift, after the last pump plant it’s downhill to is final destination for storage and then treatment. I did IT/comm stuff so not a water expert but listened to what was going on when I was working in the different plants. Depending on how many pumps are running 1,2 or all 3 of the lines could be in service.

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Thanks for Mentioning me NicPaus!

I think I can speak with experience (28 years at MWD). Sorry for the delayed response, just too busy to stay on RDP . I work at Lake Mathews, Const. Services Unit. For those that don't know, we are the MWD internal construction "company".

I looked at most of the responses, we do have different schedules, 4-10, 9-80, 5-8. Some classifications work 12 hour shifts, 24 /7. some the Desert Region jobs work: 4 on, 4 off, 4 on 2 off. e.g. M-Th: off Fri-Mon: Tue-Fri: of Sat - Sun: repeat...................

As far as getting hired, I think I have said this before, READ the job description. All applications are sent in via email, and then screened by HR Analyst(s), and I don't for sure; "computer Software" looking for key words. Knowing someone, and not knowing the job that you are applying for won't get you anywhere.

Oh, and BTW, the Supervisors Association in our last MOU, got MWD to implement a form all involved in the interview & testing progress need to sign, indicating that they are not related or other connection to the applicants. This was due to a ton of BS going on in the Desert Region.

Ok, NEXT; Benefits....... ours are pretty standard for working for a larger company. We do get sick time, vacation time, but as far as Medical, eye, dental; my daughter has better plans than me at the Corp where she works.


With the new CalPers retire plan (PEPRA) signed into law by Moon Beam, this doesn't make us very attractive, retirement wise.

If you really want to see some insight into MWD, read the LA Times articles that have been written about us. Follow that up with a report that was just released (can be found on the MWD Website) by the Shaw Law Group. And take it all for what's its worth.

Feel free to message me......................... NT
Awesome to have you post on this stuff.

What the latest on Diamond Valley? I hear that lake is FULL! Is Silverwood full as well? It supplies DV, correct??
 

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Lake Matthews is pretty full too, not spilling across the roadway as it does during a heavy rain season, but it's full.

Might need to dust off the saltwater rods for an evening catfish commando mission! The lake is full enough that we wouldn't get swallowed up by the muddy shoreline.
 

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Awesome to have you post on this stuff.

What the latest on Diamond Valley? I hear that lake is FULL! Is Silverwood full as well? It supplies DV, correct??
I see you got an answer on the Lake(s) situation.

In the last few years, & I will give some credit to the MWD Water Resource Teams, the shift of water deliveries is dynamic( I guess that would be a good word). Water is moved around due to the "allocations" from the Colorado River & the State Water Project. I can't even begin to explain the process. I used to have a few guys that worked the Distribution Center (they retired) & I could get all kind of info. Daughters teachers used to love when I would send all the data to school with her, for her science classes. talk about info overload.

NT
 

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I see you got an answer on the Lake(s) situation.

In the last few years, & I will give some credit to the MWD Water Resource Teams, the shift of water deliveries is dynamic( I guess that would be a good word). Water is moved around due to the "allocations" from the Colorado River & the State Water Project. I can't even begin to explain the process. I used to have a few guys that worked the Distribution Center (they retired) & I could get all kind of info. Daughters teachers used to love when I would send all the data to school with her, for her science classes. talk about info overload.

NT
I follow the MWD on Instaface. That's how I found the first post in this thread!

I'd LOVE to talk to you more about DV. I watched that whole deal from when they first imminent domained the properties to build Lake Domaigami, to when they changed it to DV and said sorry, no body to water contact.

Am I bitter? Yeah, a bit. But what's done is done. Would just love to know how it all played out. 😊
 

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Hey guys, I've always wondered...

How much liquid fills pipes like that?
Are the pipes 100% full of liquid, or 80% (?) full with an air gap between the liquid and the roof of the pipe?
Is there less liquid in pipes going up hill, like the pipes in the pics?
Full. Air is your enemy in pipe. There are auto air vents somewhere at the top to get out and turbulence which may have trapped some bubbles.
 
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