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Now we know your a drinker

No kidding I was going to ask when did that start.

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Damn thats crazy the car is overheating with a windshield in it just going 35 mph. Something doesnt seem right. They would have tested that you would think! Have you checked the fans to make sure they are all working and blowing the correct way?

P.S. Thats your oil tank in the right rear wheel well. Dont put coolant in there haha!
Whatcha talking about?
 

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It’s pretty apparent you don’t understand what integrity means.

Bending your principles for any reason especially financial gain is the opposite of integrity..

By you claiming I would change the outcome
Of a statement for financial gain is the very definition of you saying I lack integrity..

I don’t.
Dave, if i don’t like the seats in the new Toyota i just bought, I’m not going to list that in the for sale ad if it bothered me that much. The potential buyer has the opportunity to sit in the car and decide for himself. The seat may actually fit the new buyer better.
This has nothing to do with integrity or being honest.
 

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Right on, ya ive had the fan spinning the wrong way before on a vehicle cause it was wired wrong so wanted to make sure ya checked that haha.

I need to get out to Havasu sometime! Headed to Sand Hollow next week for a week!

What dates.. maybe I’ll bring it out there to finally end this madness.. lol
 

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Dave, if i don’t like the seats in the new Toyota i just bought, I’m not going to list that in the for sale ad if it bothered me that much. The potential buyer has the opportunity to sit in the car and decide for himself. The seat may actually fit the new buyer better.
This has nothing to do with integrity or being honest.

You probably wouldn’t put that in the for sale ad.. but if someone asked your honest opinions about something you should say it..

These posts are about opinions
 

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I went to the show for a bit today and checked out the cars. Once again they look really good. I like the look and really like the bed. Robby is ready to do some racing at NORRA with them and im excited to race against him at the 1000 next year. The 2 seat bandit or whatever it is looks good also.

I still have my same concerns as above as far as how reliable they are though. Time will tell and 30 people picked theirs up Saturday night he said as about half were gone today already.

One other major concern I have is how the whole front end is built into one big bulkhead. If you rip a a-arm mount off then you need to replace the whole bulkhead it seems, if your front diff explodes it could take out the whole bulkhead as well. While its a cool design having it all in one I dont know how thats gonna be for a large market vehicle.
The diff is modular, you don't need an entire new case, just what ever broke.
 

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Damn thats crazy the car is overheating with a windshield in it just going 35 mph. Something doesnt seem right. They would have tested that you would think! Have you checked the fans to make sure they are all working and blowing the correct way?

P.S. Thats your oil tank in the right rear wheel well. Dont put coolant in there haha!

I believe RG had stated in one of the videos if it is warm out you might want to remove the windshield to keep things cool. Windshields on hots days suck no matter what SXS you drive.
 

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Something’s I forgot..

The brakes are a joke.. that’s coming from a guy that had 34’s on a can am.. I thought those things were weak af..

Possible solution would be much softer brake pads? I dunno I’m gonna have pat take a look at it and see what he thinks. I’m not spending 4-5k on that brembo deal..

If I ordered one today I probably would.. but I’m balls deep into three of these things and that’s a lot of coin

RD

Do you know if your car has the different compound brake pads they tested that were allegedly better?
 

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Sept 24-30. Come on out! We are doing rides everyday to different spots!
A group of 10 of us will be in Settler's Point for the same dates. 1 speed car, a bunch of jeeps, and a couple of land cruisers.
 

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No time to give a quick review, just got home from AZ.

I will say though, there are a lot of pics and videos of folks riding this weekend. One guy put 100 miles on his already.

Also, that Gibson video that Lance posted is complete BS, read the comments, that guy never owned the car, Speed did not turn their backs on them, nor tell them their warranty was voided. I watched the car drive over to the Speed booth, and James Lin was all up in it.


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No time to give a quick review, just got home from AZ.

I will say though, there are a lot of pics and videos of folks riding this weekend. One guy put 100 miles on his already.

Also, that Gibson video that Lance posted is complete BS, read the comments, that guy never owned the car, Speed did not turn their backs on them, nor tell them their warranty was voided. I watched the car drive over to the Speed booth, and James Lin was all up in it.


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Great looking car, I like how you can choose color scheme. Question, are their nets SFI rated? I know theres guys wanting to race the 2 seaters, just wondering if they have a rating. I know at the Mint they check for the SFI label.
 

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Great looking car, I like how you can choose color scheme. Question, are their nets SFI rated? I know theres guys wanting to race the 2 seaters, just wondering if they have a rating. I know at the Mint they check for the SFI label.
No I did not see any SFI stickers on the nets.
 

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Do you know if your car has the different compound brake pads they tested that were allegedly better?

I don’t.. but we have a resident break guru right here on rdp.. I’m sure he’s got ten ways of fixing this problem easily..
 

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Well like I said that is the quick and dirty version. I forgot a lot of stuff in the video because I am
Holding the camera trying to remember everything hung over and late af to pickup the wife.. lol

If ya want to come drive it and give your honest opinions you are more than welcome

(fans are all working correctly by the way)
Hey Dave,
RG has stated that you will need to run with the windshield off when temps are over 75-80 degrees I believe.
Car looks sick!
Can't wait for mine!
 

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Great looking car, I like how you can choose color scheme. Question, are their nets SFI rated? I know theres guys wanting to race the 2 seaters, just wondering if they have a rating. I know at the Mint they check for the SFI label.
I did not see an SFI rating, and I seriously doubt they are.

Good news, is they velcro onto the frame, and I think it would be easy to have someone stich up some SFI rated nets.
 

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Here the best I can do because I’m really late to pick up stacy

Nice video. Sure seems like the real deal to me. And of all the “corrections” you pointed out nothing seems over the top to fix.

Btw weren’t you able to fit a schiada and pontoon in that a garage? What happened lol 😁
 

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Dude has a little bar in the middle of no where...nobody goes there looking for gourmet pizza...most people that go there are just going to drink beers...a warmed up frozen pizza is just a bonus....what are people gonna complain about next, the hotdogs are from a package?
No shit lol. And if they served real food they’d bitch about the price or crowds.

Personally I go for the beers if I go.
 

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Hey Dave,
RG has stated that you will need to run with the windshield off when temps are over 75-80 degrees I believe.
Car looks sick!
Can't wait for mine!

Dave musta missed that infomercial...

Prolly was at a poker run somewhere that day!

Me personally...

I don't get the windshield thing. Helmet and goggles has always worked fine for me off road.

Never needed a heated seat either.

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LOL! Over 50 cars delivered this weekend and only pictures are River Dave's and few of people with them on trailers. You would think after waiting several years for delivery they would all be posting pictures and taking them for rides.
Hahahahah I'd be on the 5 o'clock new,s while flying down Mccullock Blvd jumping over the London Bridge and landing on the Island. :D
 

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Windshield is a plus, I have one on my Tatum but do not on my SXS. Looking to put one on that before we start sand mountain trips unless I get a newer SXS and that will get one too.
 

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LOL! Over 50 cars delivered this weekend and only pictures are River Dave's and few of people with them on trailers. You would think after waiting several years for delivery they would all be posting pictures and taking them for rides.
A friend picked his up months ago. I haven't seen it since I shot this video. he is somewhat reserved and not looking for attention. I expect to see him any day now with the cooler temps here in Parker.

 

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You don’t need power windows or power steering in your car either but it’s nice when you do lol

Yeah well, I can tell you this much...

There is Nothing nice about them, when they are dirty (which is almost Always) and you're headed into the sun at the end of the day.

Maybe someday when they make tear offs for them, I could see having a windshield. 👍🏼😁

Muddy trails are fun as well! 🙄😜
 

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Personally I hate windshields as well in a SXS or buggy. The reverse vortex sucks, they make it way hot inside, the dust sticks to them all day, they get fogged up easily at night/early morning. Helmet and pumper FTW!
 

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LOL! Over 50 cars delivered this weekend and only pictures are River Dave's and few of people with them on trailers. You would think after waiting several years for delivery they would all be posting pictures and taking them for rides.
They’re out there you just got a look like all the other stuff we keep explaining to everybody on here

this guys already had two days Running at Johnson Valley Owenr is super happy says he has not a single complaint
 

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The only downside to the windshield in my Can-Am is the heat issue on warm days, but I left the bottom open so I get some airflow, but it still gets warm. I would not own another SXS without one though. In Havasu where we drive these things on the streets, the windshield makes driving at speed much more enjoyable.
 

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I don’t.. but we have a resident break guru right here on rdp.. I’m sure he’s got ten ways of fixing this problem easily..

Dave, when I was out the sand show Willwood brakes had the larger braking system at their booth and said they will be selling it for quite a bit less than what Robbie wants for it and in fact there words were he’s making it un affordable might wanna look into it although I would make sure you have the newer break compound pads before you do anything else it has been said that they are supposed to be coming with the cars but maybe not the batch of cars you were in at least that’s what I hope Hope.
 

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LOF when you coming back? What master number were you?Come join us the on the speed uTV .net site
 

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Dave, you should make your YouTube video a sticky or whatever you call those things where it’s always on the top of the screen it’s about as clear as you can make it to any of these people that still talk shit.
 

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Dave, when I was out the sand show Willwood brakes had the larger braking system at their booth and said they will be selling it for quite a bit less than what Robbie wants for it and in fact there words were he’s making it un affordable might wanna look into it although I would make sure you have the newer break compound pads before you do anything else it has been said that they are supposed to be coming with the cars but maybe not the batch of cars you were in at least that’s what I hope Hope.
The brakes are not good, they're manageable, and will stop the car just fine, but they "SHOULD" be better.
 

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Is it possible that the pads need to be broken in? My Can-Am out of the box had sketchy brakes but they got better with some miles on them.

Can am X3 brakes get marginally better. They have a mushy feel, but will stop you.
 

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Time for some stainless brake hoses maybe?

HoseMan can custom make them if you ask nicely. They made me some for my Harley. No more squishy feeling.

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Good start-
Two things here- how does it stop, and how does the pedal feel while stopping.
@lbhsbz can fill in the tech section, but here's the basics.

How does it stop-
Is there enough friction between pad and rotor, without killing the rotor or overheating parts.
Is there enough pressure applied to achieve above statement.
Is the clamping surface large enough to dissipate the heat expended during this action.
Is the clamping surface large enough to effectively control the inertia of the vehicle.

How does it feel-
Length and type of brake line-rubber is fine for short lines, not great for long lines.
Master dia. vs caliper volume. These need to be matched, with in reason.

Big one-Caliper flex. They all do, but how much.
No matter how good the rest of your stuff is, if you can input 1800psi, (brake line pressure) but your caliper flexes at 1200psi, you have a rising pressure graph, with a static braking force graph.
 

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Good start-
Two things here- how does it stop, and how does the pedal feel while stopping.
@lbhsbz can fill in the tech section, but here's the basics.

How does it stop-
Is there enough friction between pad and rotor, without killing the rotor or overheating parts.
Is there enough pressure applied to achieve above statement.
Is the clamping surface large enough to dissipate the heat expended during this action.
Is the clamping surface large enough to effectively control the inertia of the vehicle.

How does it feel-
Length and type of brake line-rubber is fine for short lines, not great for long lines.
Master dia. vs caliper volume. These need to be matched, with in reason.

Big one-Caliper flex. They all do, but how much.
No matter how good the rest of your stuff is, if you can input 1800psi, (brake line pressure) but your caliper flexes at 1200psi, you have a rising pressure graph, with a static braking force graph.
I do SS lines...I can make whatever as long as I have a sample to work from.
 

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Dave, when I was out the sand show Willwood brakes had the larger braking system at their booth and said they will be selling it for quite a bit less than what Robbie wants for it and in fact there words were he’s making it un affordable might wanna look into it although I would make sure you have the newer break compound pads before you do anything else it has been said that they are supposed to be coming with the cars but maybe not the batch of cars you were in at least that’s what I hope Hope.
Who was it that told you that? Reason I ask is I’ve talked with Mike multiple times(SEMA and SSSS) and he’s said that the Wilwood’s deal is that only RG can sell them. RG also has the same deal with Rugged as well. Both companies help with my vehicles tremendously and I’ve been told by both that getting parts from them is a big no no.
 

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Who was it that told you that? Reason I ask is I’ve talked with Mike multiple times and he’s said that the Wilwood’s deal is that only RG can sell them. RG also has the same deal with Rugged as well. Both companies help with my vehicles tremendously and I’ve been told by both that getting parts from them is a big no no.
When you are ready to step up to high quality coms lemme know :)
 

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When you are ready to step up to high quality coms lemme know :)
Come on Fish, how many people have I know that have worked there over the years and have Everyone has told me no deals whatsoever

Oh and EVERYONE at Rugged runs my mufflers 😂
 

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They are stainless flexible brake lines. It helps if you seat the pads. It’s got a solid pedal feel but just doesn’t seem to bite as good as you want. They are not horrible and not amazing in my opinion. I already called willwood and tried to piece the kit together which should cost ~$2,500 but they will not sell the caliper brackets. According to speed all the brake components come from willwood.
 
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