Speed UTV take 3

[Bpracing1127]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CsOfxBoujNH/

Video from guy riding with Nick and his initial thoughts on the speed utv.

Kinda what I have been saying the fit and finish isn’t there.

 

[rivrrts429]

Kinda what I have been saying the fit and finish isn’t there.

I can’t see them ever being the family vehicle. They appear to be set up for the enthusiast that rides hard and/or wants to try their hand at racing in the stock classes. If my significant other is involved in the decision of which car to buy I’m not taking her to see this car lol

 

[dirtslinger2]

From Nick (Chupacabra)

The first leak of fluid was indeed a loose hoes clamp on the coolant overflow, We lost maybe 2-3 ounces total and discovered when we removed the bed and rear side panel to access the PS reservoir.

Front diff has leaked since I took it, I think I know where it's coming from and I added a little Friday night.

PS system is self bleeding- but I have to mention RG, Brian and Daniel took all of my calls and gave me tips on how to help it self bleed, which we did, and ran all day Saturday with no leaks, on Double Sammy, and the dunes.

Steering feedback has been improved with the new servo, but they also have another item coming, I'll let them explain.

Had my spare axle so we installed the fresh unit, fairly simple and clever design, RG sent a CV boot kit Next Day Air to fix the damaged (now) spare.

I got a lot of questions about climbing performance, and I'm starting to put together my "240ish" mile review, which encompasses Havasu, local ride, and Sand Hollow weekend. Learned a ton.

Learned a ton! I lost the PS fluid, and discovered the right rear torn CV after the 20 minute ride I gave Jon Crowley. Originally we saw the pool of fluid and assumed the worst, but I lost the power steering at the end of the ride and didn't really realize. Hit 72 mph on that ride with him on the fence line, it's chewed up! I know my X3 is a 2 seater, but its laughable how much better the Speed is in that section, or any whoop section. And I LOVE that X3, its dialed as well.

Most importantly the suspension and handling:

Stock spring rate, crossover ring height, and Comp/ REB settings are FANTASTIC. Only downside is the stock springs loose height. RG told me we need to be at 16" WITH PEOPLE IN THE CAR, so we had it at 17-17.25" static when we loaded up for UTAH. The preload rings are beautiful, but also a huge pain in the ass. Give me the standard 2 rings, hammer and punch any day.

I'll put together a comprehensive video and have ready this week.

A YouTube video is going live tomorrow am regarding a "oh crap" moment I had climbing the Chute (2nd time, Saturday). The Speed can't be driven with 2 feet, I feel they created a safety setting to prevent people from blowing belts, but when you are half way up a rock slab, on the brakes for dear life, you cannot bump the RPM's and slowly proceed. I assume it's a simple ECU setting that hopefully I can have overridden, this will help immensely for crawling. I learned this the first day at Double Sammy, so the second time I ran it, I just got my lines and kept momentum on the few sections I needed to, so I wouldn't get into this pickle. I think the Speed has great crawling potential, a Diablo on 35" stickies and that magic 110" wheelbase would be sick!

Nick

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[ZSTIV]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CsOfxBoujNH/

Video from guy riding with Nick and his initial thoughts on the speed utv.

Guy cares more about stickers in the car than the performance. Typical SxS golf cart boys…

 

[outboard_256]

From Nick (Chupacabra)

The first leak of fluid was indeed a loose hoes clamp on the coolant overflow, We lost maybe 2-3 ounces total and discovered when we removed the bed and rear side panel to access the PS reservoir.

Front diff has leaked since I took it, I think I know where it's coming from and I added a little Friday night.

PS system is self bleeding- but I have to mention RG, Brian and Daniel took all of my calls and gave me tips on how to help it self bleed, which we did, and ran all day Saturday with no leaks, on Double Sammy, and the dunes.

Steering feedback has been improved with the new servo, but they also have another item coming, I'll let them explain.

Had my spare axle so we installed the fresh unit, fairly simple and clever design, RG sent a CV boot kit Next Day Air to fix the damaged (now) spare.

I got a lot of questions about climbing performance, and I'm starting to put together my "240ish" mile review, which encompasses Havasu, local ride, and Sand Hollow weekend. Learned a ton.

Learned a ton! I lost the PS fluid, and discovered the right rear torn CV after the 20 minute ride I gave Jon Crowley. Originally we saw the pool of fluid and assumed the worst, but I lost the power steering at the end of the ride and didn't really realize. Hit 72 mph on that ride with him on the fence line, it's chewed up! I know my X3 is a 2 seater, but its laughable how much better the Speed is in that section, or any whoop section. And I LOVE that X3, its dialed as well.

Most importantly the suspension and handling:

Stock spring rate, crossover ring height, and Comp/ REB settings are FANTASTIC. Only downside is the stock springs loose height. RG told me we need to be at 16" WITH PEOPLE IN THE CAR, so we had it at 17-17.25" static when we loaded up for UTAH. The preload rings are beautiful, but also a huge pain in the ass. Give me the standard 2 rings, hammer and punch any day.

I'll put together a comprehensive video and have ready this week.

A YouTube video is going live tomorrow am regarding a "oh crap" moment I had climbing the Chute (2nd time, Saturday). The Speed can't be driven with 2 feet, I feel they created a safety setting to prevent people from blowing belts, but when you are half way up a rock slab, on the brakes for dear life, you cannot bump the RPM's and slowly proceed. I assume it's a simple ECU setting that hopefully I can have overridden, this will help immensely for crawling. I learned this the first day at Double Sammy, so the second time I ran it, I just got my lines and kept momentum on the few sections I needed to, so I wouldn't get into this pickle. I think the Speed has great crawling potential, a Diablo on 35" stickies and that magic 110" wheelbase would be sick!

Nick

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someone asked about the dash issue and nick responded:

 

[dirtslinger2]

 

[rivermobster]

From Nick (Chupacabra)

The first leak of fluid was indeed a loose hoes clamp on the coolant overflow, We lost maybe 2-3 ounces total and discovered when we removed the bed and rear side panel to access the PS reservoir.

Front diff has leaked since I took it, I think I know where it's coming from and I added a little Friday night.

PS system is self bleeding- but I have to mention RG, Brian and Daniel took all of my calls and gave me tips on how to help it self bleed, which we did, and ran all day Saturday with no leaks, on Double Sammy, and the dunes.

Steering feedback has been improved with the new servo, but they also have another item coming, I'll let them explain.

Had my spare axle so we installed the fresh unit, fairly simple and clever design, RG sent a CV boot kit Next Day Air to fix the damaged (now) spare.

I got a lot of questions about climbing performance, and I'm starting to put together my "240ish" mile review, which encompasses Havasu, local ride, and Sand Hollow weekend. Learned a ton.

Learned a ton! I lost the PS fluid, and discovered the right rear torn CV after the 20 minute ride I gave Jon Crowley. Originally we saw the pool of fluid and assumed the worst, but I lost the power steering at the end of the ride and didn't really realize. Hit 72 mph on that ride with him on the fence line, it's chewed up! I know my X3 is a 2 seater, but its laughable how much better the Speed is in that section, or any whoop section. And I LOVE that X3, its dialed as well.

Most importantly the suspension and handling:

Stock spring rate, crossover ring height, and Comp/ REB settings are FANTASTIC. Only downside is the stock springs loose height. RG told me we need to be at 16" WITH PEOPLE IN THE CAR, so we had it at 17-17.25" static when we loaded up for UTAH. The preload rings are beautiful, but also a huge pain in the ass. Give me the standard 2 rings, hammer and punch any day.

I'll put together a comprehensive video and have ready this week.

A YouTube video is going live tomorrow am regarding a "oh crap" moment I had climbing the Chute (2nd time, Saturday). The Speed can't be driven with 2 feet, I feel they created a safety setting to prevent people from blowing belts, but when you are half way up a rock slab, on the brakes for dear life, you cannot bump the RPM's and slowly proceed. I assume it's a simple ECU setting that hopefully I can have overridden, this will help immensely for crawling. I learned this the first day at Double Sammy, so the second time I ran it, I just got my lines and kept momentum on the few sections I needed to, so I wouldn't get into this pickle. I think the Speed has great crawling potential, a Diablo on 35" stickies and that magic 110" wheelbase would be sick!

Nick

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I didn't realize he's friends with Jon. Jon is Good people. I'm far more interested now!

 

[rivermobster]

I really don't get the rubber band thing...

I suppose if they made it a 3 pedal car, a whole lot less people would buy it?

But then you'd have a car for real drivers. I like Honda's approach MUCH better.

 

[rivrrts429]

I really don't get the rubber band thing...

I suppose if they made it a 3 pedal car, a whole lot less people would buy it?

But then you'd have a car for real drivers. I like Honda's approach MUCH better.

Nobody wants to be shifting. It’s the last thing you want to be doing riding fast and/or in the technical.

We raced 1007 miles of wild terrain last week in Mexico. Everything from rock crawling to silt beds to mud and not so much as a single slip of the belt. Belt actually still looks new today.

I’ll take the rubber band over shifting all day.

 

[rivermobster]

Nobody wants to be shifting. It’s the last thing you want to be doing riding fast and/or in the technical.

We raced 1007 miles of wild terrain last week in Mexico. Everything from rock crawling to silt beds to mud and not so much as a single slip of the belt. Belt actually still looks new today.

I’ll take the rubber band over shifting all day.

Sissy.

 

[rivrrts429]

Sissy.

Tell that to the Trophy trucks

 

[rivermobster]

Tell that to the Trophy trucks

Right??

Like I said. I like Honda's approach. They need to step up their HP game though! That turbo kit just ain't enough.

 

[rivrrts429]

Right??

Like I said. I like Honda's approach. They need to step up their HP game though! That turbo kit just ain't enough.

I was talking to a guy with the Honda. Actually a nice car. I like the Kawasaki too. Neither are going to be the fastest but 99% of buyers purchase a car above their capabilities.

 

[Badchoices03]

Right??

Like I said. I like Honda's approach. They need to step up their HP game though! That turbo kit just ain't enough.

They need to step up their HP and suspension game....

 

[rivermobster]

They need to step up their HP and suspension game....

Im thinking that Fox live valve deal is head and shoulders above the rest.

 

[RiverDave]

Nobody wants to be shifting. It’s the last thing you want to be doing riding fast and/or in the technical.

We raced 1007 miles of wild terrain last week in Mexico. Everything from rock crawling to silt beds to mud and not so much as a single slip of the belt. Belt actually still looks new today.

I’ll take the rubber band over shifting all day.

I’d rather shift

 

[Heylam]

Auto trans with paddle shift would be awesome

 

[rivermobster]

Auto trans with paddle shift would be awesome

That's sorta what the Honda Talon has. Dual clutch system that can be run in full auto OR paddle shifted.

Similar to the SMG set up BMW and VW run.

Along with g force sensors and all that sorta jazz tied into the live valve system.

Not sure the ProR has all that extra tech built into their live valve system. I haven't read up on that.

 

[Badchoices03]

That's sorta what the Honda Talon has. Dual clutch system that can be run in full auto OR paddle shifted.

Similar to the SMG set up BMW and VW run.

Along with g force sensors and all that sorta jazz tied into the live valve system.

Not sure the ProR has all that extra tech built into their live valve system. I haven't read up on that.

The only thing that sucks about the paddle shifting on the Talon, is that the paddles do not rotate with the steering wheel, I found myself missing the paddle with my finger during cornering...you kind of get the hang of it, but seems like it would be alot easier if the paddles rotated with the wheel...

 

[rivermobster]

The only thing that sucks about the paddle shifting on the Talon, is that the paddles do not rotate with the steering wheel, I found myself missing the paddle with my finger during cornering...you kind of get the hang of it, but seems like it would be alot easier if the paddles rotated with the wheel...

Totally agree. What year was that car?

I sat in a new one and it seemed like everything moved with the wheel/column.

Was I on drugs or something??

 

[Badchoices03]

Totally agree. What year was that car?

I sat in a new one and it seemed like everything moved with the wheel/column.

Was I on drugs or something??

Mine is a 2021, they didn't change on the newer model, but what they did do was make the paddles bigger so that they are easier to reach while turning...

 

[rivermobster]

Mine is a 2021, they didn't change on the newer model, but what they did do was make the paddles bigger so that they are easier to reach while turning...

Copy that. On drugs. Noted.

I really liked how the instrument cluster moved with the steering column. I thought that was a nice touch.

 

[Badchoices03]

Copy that. On drugs. Noted.

I really liked how the instrument cluster moved with the steering column. I thought that was a nice touch.

Yeah my 2021 has to have a kit to relocate the gauge cluster to the steering column....anyways, back to Speed....

 

[sandshark1]

Most cars ordered were 4 seaters, so I don’t think many cars ordered are planned to be raced. If you’d be pissed to buy a UTV and have issues that take months to fix. Then don’t buy a Polaris. A friend bought a new XP Pro in October. It’s only been out twice and he got his Stop Ride recall notice for the fuel line/o ring etc.. failure. He called the dealer and was told he was around car 100 on their list, and there was still no ETA on a fix or when parts would be available. If he abides by the Recall he will not be driving his new car for months.

I have to give you credit for being so desperate to use my screen name and sign up on this forum. Hope your having fun.

None of my friends have dealt with stop rides or had any issues with their Pro Rs. Sorry the Pro R is a sweet ride and it hurt you.

Sorry Can Am makes a badass X3 with the most reliable engine available.

Signed

“The Real Sand Shark”

 

[sandshark1]

Due to your industry connections, you probably got a special price on all your upgrades, and probably on the car too. But if you had to pay retail price for all the upgrades you have made to your Pro R. How much do you think you would have spent? I know I’ve spent e significant amount upgrading on the Can Am, but it’s great now.

Wow you have done some good work. I can promise you I have not spend as much as you think on my Can Am.

 

[rivermobster]

 

[sandshark1]

Well lets see, here is MSRP for it all haha

CageWRX Cage - $2700
CageWRX Front Bumper - $350
Morgan Motorsports Rear Butt/Storage Bumper - $5500
KMC Wheels - $650 x 6 = $3900
BFG Tires - $350 x 6 = $2100
Kenwood NX5700 Radio, PCI Intercom, PCI Pumper - $4000
Baja Designs 40" OnX6, 10" OnX6, Headlight Kit, RTL - $3500
ZRP Radius Rods, Tie Rods, Sway Bar Links, Bolt Kit - $3000
Viper Shifter - $600
Metal Head Grab Handle - $400
SPod 8 Panel Switch - $900
Hostyle Door Bags - $1000?

$27,950

Thats everything on the car right now, then I have these items on order or waiting to be installed:

Sparco EVO Seats and Belts - $5100
ZRP Toe Links - $1200
Lone Star Upper Arms - $1800

Total - $36,050 In aftermarket stuff. Plus about $4000 in labor (not including all the stuff installed myself) so right at 40K MSRP with labor.


HOWEVER. You do not NEED to do most of this stuff lol. You can just take the car and do a couple of the items and enjoy it everywhere and be totally happy if you don't know the difference!

Oh ya add another 3K or something lol!

In the end its all priceless when you are in the desert having a good time! YOLO!

I would never ask you these questions.

 

[sandshark1]

Had no clue until someone let me know. Lol!

 

[DWC]

Holy hell. Looks like there’s a few cars on the way.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Holy hell. Looks like there’s a few cars on the way.

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So looking at the photo going off the front row let’s just assume 4 rows of 6 cars in each row. Now I’m no math expert but thats 24 cars. Rumor had it 500 on the ship already so if we add these cars to the 500 already shipped then they’re up to 524 cars. No if we then add the 70 said to already have landed in Long Beach then they’re up to 594 cars. So the 15000 on order should be filled in the next couple days.

 

[topdog521]

I have to give you credit for being so desperate to use my screen name and sign up on this forum. Hope your having fun.

None of my friends have dealt with stop rides or had any issues with their Pro Rs. Sorry the Pro R is a sweet ride and it hurt you.

Sorry Can Am makes a badass X3 with the most reliable engine available.

Signed

“The Real Sand Shark”

What in the schizophrenia is going on here?

 

[RiverDave]

What in the schizophrenia is going on here?

Apparently someone used a screen name that is a well known name on other offroad forums.

I’m not sure if it was intentional or not?

 

[Icky]

I have to give you credit for being so desperate to use my screen name and sign up on this forum. Hope your having fun.

None of my friends have dealt with stop rides or had any issues with their Pro Rs. Sorry the Pro R is a sweet ride and it hurt you.

Sorry Can Am makes a badass X3 with the most reliable engine available.

Signed

“The Real Sand Shark”

I can solve this one

 

[DoughBallin14]

Hey pass some over here!

Are we to assume Sand Shark identifies as 1 and 2 now? Arguing against himself? Lets observe

 

[sandshark1]

Apparently someone used a screen name that is a well known name on other offroad forums.

I’m not sure if it was intentional or not?

Can I DM you?

 

[sandshark1]

I can solve this one

What in the schizophrenia is going on here?

Someone decided to have some fun and act like it was me by using my screen name.

 

[sandshark1]

Hey pass some over here!

Are we to assume Sand Shark identifies as 1 and 2 now? Arguing against himself? Lets observe

I thought I was taking my meds and they were working. Apparently not.

Just me, myself, and I having fun

Well and that other person pretending to be me.

 

[Outdrive1]

I’m so confused. Maybe WSG can pontificate and clear it all up

 

[RiverDave]

Can I DM you?

Can I DM you?

I sent you a dm. I think you need 10-15 posts to initiate a dm

 

[RiverDave]

I thought I was taking my meds and they were working. Apparently not.

Just me, myself, and I having fun

Well and that other person pretending to be me.

What page did he start posting on?

 

[sandshark1]

What page did he start posting on?

Race Dezert and GD

 

[RiverDave]

Race Dezert and GD

No I meant in this thread lol

Or what was the post number you quoted? Is he really pretending to be you? And not some guy that just picked a similar screen name?

 

[sandshark1]

What page did he start posting on?

Sorry I have only seen it on this thread

 

[sandshark1]

No I meant in this thread lol

Or what was the post number you quoted? Is he really pretending to be you? And not some guy that just picked a similar screen name?

Yes he is pretending to be me. Not random he uses the screen name and owns a Can Am and uses other information.

 

[RiverDave]

Yes he is pretending to be me. Not random he uses the screen name and owns a Can Am and uses other information.

I sent you a dm..

 

[Justsomeguy]

What in the schizophrenia is going on here?

 

[RVR SWPR]

 

[MonkeyButt70]

 

[Mr. C]

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I was thinking

 

[RiverDave]

With regards to whether people want to shift or not.. komot made a sequential six speed for the cab am x3’s!

They are insanely expensive but I don’t expect building something like this from
Scratch would be cheap.