The 21' and under 70+ mph Boat pic thread

[DUN]

different from the rest. It was always at the races so I paid attention to it but not real close as I was young. I might have some 8mm with the witch in it. someday I need to break out the projector and take a look.

It looks like something Nick Barron and Sanger analyzed while building their hydros. Though my timeline might way screwed up... don't know who built what first but pretty sure this was earlier than all of em.

 

[Wheeler]

There were a couple of 100 mph outboards. Here's one of em.

Ken Baker and his Ron Jones outboard drag hydro
Would you believe 100.55 mph in the quarter mile? On gasoline? Believe it!

It looks like something Nick Barron and Sanger analyzed while building their hydros. Though my timeline might way screwed up... don't know who built what first but pretty sure this was earlier than all of em.

Harlin Orin would know. I don't remember his screen name or I'd tag him.

Hallett was state of the art then and the record holder

Banzai
Barry McCown Blown fuel Hallet hydro hull. Made many passes over 150 mph.
Set the NDBA record at 161 and change. Engine builder - Bobby Sykes, Sr. worked for Keith Black & built the engines for Banzai.

Clank123 in Banzai three years ago or so.

 

[DUN]

That is a badass fishing boat holy shit.


I've been around Banzai and Steve towed me back to the beach in his Howard once lmao. Banzai was the first thing I thought of when seeing The Witch's transom. Though Banzai is all wood, the witch is glass?(my timeline is fubar)

Cool history Wheeler Ray

 

[Wheeler]

Super cool piece

As I recall this black one was the first boat then a new one was built.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Happy Birthday Ironside!

 

[Deangang]

 

[Clank123]

There were a couple of 100 mph outboards. Here's one of em.

Ken Baker and his Ron Jones outboard drag hydro
Would you believe 100.55 mph in the quarter mile? On gasoline? Believe it!
View attachment 1237305



Harlin Orin would know. I don't remember his screen name or I'd tag him.

Hallett was state of the art then and the record holder

Banzai
Barry McCown Blown fuel Hallet hydro hull. Made many passes over 150 mph.
Set the NDBA record at 161 and change. Engine builder - Bobby Sykes, Sr. worked for Keith Black & built the engines for Banzai.


View attachment 1237302 View attachment 1237303

Clank123 in Banzai three years ago or so.

View attachment 1237306

The above pictures of the Banzai were when just like the NHRA, Nitro was banned for about a year.
Keith Black wanted to try the “new” Hilborn 4 hole injector.
Boat ran well on gas.
Set the record in the high 130’s.

 

[Clank123]

Dad testing the unlettered Landy Dodge/Hondo Magic Dragon at the Oakland Estuary in 1975.
Went 129 off the trailer.
I flew up with him for the test…my first plane ride!

 

[Wheeler]

Saturday morning on the Parker Strip!

 

[Wheeler]

That is a badass fishing boat holy shit.


I've been around Banzai and Steve towed me back to the beach in his Howard once lmao. Banzai was the first thing I thought of when seeing The Witch's transom. Though Banzai is all wood, the witch is glass?(my timeline is fubar)

Cool history Wheeler Ray

These photos were shot by Bob Foley in 1965 which is evident by this photo with the Mustang in it. I was there that day as I recall the VW in the photos. A bunch of bikers showed up that day and left in a hurry as they piled into it. one of the shitters was pushed over by a couple of guys while their friend was in it, face down! Such good times to be young. I was eight years of age.

@twocents might have been there this day or might remember the day that Ted Phillips (mixed emotions threw the NDBA official

into the water while earning a year long banning from racing.

 

[Wheeler]

Cool tow vehicles.

 

[Clank123]

This was the one thing I couldn’t bring myself to do on the Banzai project.
The post through the bow.
Dig the lettering on the wagon.
I’ll have to ask Barry about that.
Gotta love goin Blown Fuel Hydro racing out of the back of a station wagon

 

[Wheeler]

This was the one thing I couldn’t bring myself to do on the Banzai project.
The post through the bow.

Good call Dave!

The Gig is wondering how one would look poking out the deck of Linders Schiada.

@SKIA36

 

[Lucky Larry]

Lol!! @Lucky Larry thinks you take all those pics.

Wait . . . what???

“Mrs.”

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Dad testing the unlettered Landy Dodge/Hondo Magic Dragon at the Oakland Estuary in 1975.
Went 129 off the trailer.
I flew up with him for the test…my first plane ride! View attachment 1237754

In color. Red Bluff 1975 Rand Tambert photo,

 

[Clank123]

In color. Red Bluff 1975 Rand Tambert photo,

View attachment 1237853

Wow!
Never seen that picture!

 

[boatnam2]

Saturday morning on the Parker Strip!

View attachment 1237757

He got the worm today for sure.

 

[sintax]

Dad testing the unlettered Landy Dodge/Hondo Magic Dragon at the Oakland Estuary in 1975.
Went 129 off the trailer.
I flew up with him for the test…my first plane ride! View attachment 1237754

Damn 130 out of an iron head twin carb setup?

Sounds super healthy

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Wow!
Never seen that picture!

Dave, check out the twin plug unblown set up on Black Rushin. Mike Stevens drove it to low 130's in '74. I'm not sure why I'm telling you this as you obviously already know these things. Rand Tambert photos.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Oakland May '75 Rand Tambert photo.

 

[Clank123]

Damn 130 out of an iron head twin carb setup?

Sounds super healthy

Different era.
Unlike today the boats didn’t start from an idle at the hold rope.
When you got the solid amber you would acknowledge your competitor and fire in gear. Who ever moved first had to wait for the other boat.
Once you both were on plane you entered the “commitment area” and you had to pair with your competitor at that time. If the officials thought you were “charging the lights” they would flash the amber light in your lane. You needed to slow your boat down and even up. Most guys would back off the throttle. I was taught to bury the down pedal a little more. Usually as long as you made a visible move they’d let you go. As soon as they deemed you paired, you could get the green at any time.
Point is you were running 20 to 30mph when you started your run and it was a full quarter mile. Also you could have 20 feet to the beam or 70 feet to it.
I remember running 29’s, 35’s and sometimes 38’s in that boat(I was the v-drive gear changer).
72-7600 with those gears(depending on prop choice) puts the boat in that 128-134mph range.
And don’t forget it was a “Dandy” Dick Landy Dodge. As were the Black Rushin and Hot Damn Hondo.

 

[Clank123]

Dave, check out the twin plug unblown set up on Black Rushin. Mike Stevens drove it to low 130's in '74. I'm not sure why I'm telling you this as you obviously already know these things. Rand Tambert photos.

View attachment 1237912

When Stevens started he had a single plug Dodge in a Sanger bubble deck. He set the Unblown Gas record with it.
I am sure Hondo made him an offer he couldn’t refuse. Once he made the switch he was nearly unbeatable.

Ted Faggart in the “SuperStar” in the far lane. Hardest running Chevy of the time built by Ken’s Automotive.

The Black Rushin “Hondo” getting the win over my Dad in the Magic Dragon.

 

[Deangang]

 

[76 Hondo]

These photos were shot by Bob Foley in 1965 which is evident by this photo with the Mustang in it. I was there that day as I recall the VW in the photos. A bunch of bikers showed up that day and left in a hurry as they piled into it. one of the shitters was pushed over by a couple of guys while their friend was in it, face down! Such good times to be young. I was eight years of age.

@twocents might have been there this day or might remember the day that Ted Phillips (mixed emotions threw the NDBA official View attachment 1237761 View attachment 1237763 View attachment 1237765 into the water while earning a year long banning from racing.

El Tigre, was driven by my auto shop teacher I believe, what a prick!

 

[Sharp Shooter]

 

[warpt71]

Dave, check out the twin plug unblown set up on Black Rushin. Mike Stevens drove it to low 130's in '74. I'm not sure why I'm telling you this as you obviously already know these things. Rand Tambert photos.

View attachment 1237912 View attachment 1237913

@Sharp Shooter @Clank123

Those Hemi headers are very close to the hull in those Hondos huh? Im pretty sure my boat was clearance or got real hot a time or two! There is funny divot inside the gunnel on the drivers side.

 

[Clank123]

@Sharp Shooter @Clank123

Those Hemi headers are very close to the hull in those Hondos huh? Im pretty sure my boat was clearance or got real hot a time or two! There is funny divot inside the gunnel on the drivers side.

Hondos are pretty tight with BBC headers as well. They are a lot narrower than any boat that isn’t a splash of a Hondo, of which almost all runner bottoms are.
Then ya go a stick an elephant hemi in one!

 

[sintax]

Different era.
Unlike today the boats didn’t start from an idle at the hold rope.
When you got the solid amber you would acknowledge your competitor and fire in gear. Who ever moved first had to wait for the other boat.
Once you both were on plane you entered the “commitment area” and you had to pair with your competitor at that time. If the officials thought you were “charging the lights” they would flash the amber light in your lane. You needed to slow your boat down and even up. Most guys would back off the throttle. I was taught to bury the down pedal a little more. Usually as long as you made a visible move they’d let you go. As soon as they deemed you paired, you could get the green at any time.
Point is you were running 20 to 30mph when you started your run and it was a full quarter mile. Also you could have 20 feet to the beam or 70 feet to it.
I remember running 29’s, 35’s and sometimes 38’s in that boat(I was the v-drive gear changer).
72-7600 with those gears(depending on prop choice) puts the boat in that 128-134mph range.
And don’t forget it was a “Dandy” Dick Landy Dodge. As were the Black Rushin and Hot Damn Hondo.

woah thats a totally different game, i had no clue (born in the 80's) things were like that earlier. Your boat setup could be drastically different if you didnt have to focus on getting out of the hole.

 

[warpt71]

Hondos are pretty tight with BBC headers as well. They are a lot narrower than any boat that isn’t a splash of a Hondo, of which almost all runner bottoms are.
Then ya go a stick an elephant hemi in one!

Not real sure how well this will show up in pics

 

[Clank123]

Not real sure how well this will show up in pics
View attachment 1238717 View attachment 1238718 View attachment 1238719

Yup it shows.
Looks like the #4 primary tube on your headers was plenty close!
Badge of honor!

 

[Sharp Shooter]

I had decent room in my '75 Sprint with Bassetts.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Bob "The Shoe" Goettel!

 

[Clank123]

Couple shots of the Mouse I’d never seen before…

 

[Deangang]

 

[Sharp Shooter]

 

[sintax]

View attachment 1239373 View attachment 1239374

now thats a unique beast!

I'm not a Ford guy, but I totally approve

Can anyone explain that cavitation plate control to me? Is it just a bell crank, or is something else going on there?

 

[74 spectra20 v-drive]

it's a bell crank, Hallet rigged a lot of their flats like that but theirs were under the rear deck. The steering is very interesting but I would look past a lot just staring at that 427.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

 

[sintax]

View attachment 1239699

Wasnt this the Major Trouble boat before?

I think Cole just removed all the decals when he ended up with it

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Wasnt this the Major Trouble boat before?

I think Cole just removed all the decals when he ended up with it

I believe so.

 

[sintax]

I believe so.

yea, I think it was.

If so, it was laid up by Ray up in Oregon, same dude who built my Rayson

 

[Sharp Shooter]

yea, I think it was.

If so, it was laid up by Ray up in Oregon, same dude who built my Rayson

Ray De Fir would be his name. He was a great boat builder among other things.

The 1st time I saw the Big trouble boat is was owned by Jersey John I think and he had it at a Burley Race maybe late 90’s. His PS that Duff drove was same color.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Aside from Tweaker Terry's I didn't take any of these photos.

 

[cyclone]

Jerry-those old K boat pics are awesome.thanks for sharing them!

 

[BigRedBryan]

 

[sintax]

Aside from Tweaker Terry's I didn't take any of these photos.

View attachment 1240908

Any more pics of that SS551 boat?

That looks to be the hot setup, don’t think you could get much cooler

 

[76 Hondo]

View attachment 1240989

I knew one of those boats looked familiar

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Any more pics of that SS551 boat?

That looks to be the hot setup, don’t think you could get much cooler

I believe it was the first Riviera flatbottom made. I don't have much info on it. Photos from the Arizona Navy archives.

 

[sintax]

I believe it was the first Riviera flatbottom made. I don't have much info on it. Photos from the Arizona Navy archives.

View attachment 1241161

yea, i didnt recognize the hull

its a sleek looking boat though, not sure why they pulled it up on the beach there to have a few beers and just left it

 

[Sharp Shooter]

yea, i didnt recognize the hull

its a sleek looking boat though, not sure why they pulled it up on the beach there to have a few beers and just left it

It went up on it’s side at firebird and that parking job was the result.