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How The World Butchered Benjamin Franklin’s Quote On Liberty Vs. Security

As the Brookings Institute’s Benjamin Wittes observes, “Very few people who quote these words, however, have any idea where they come from or what Franklin was really saying when he wrote them.”

Despite its many (many) variations, this is the actual quote:

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

According to Wittes, the words appear in a letter widely presumed to be written by Franklin in 1755 on behalf of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the colonial governor. “The letter was a salvo in a power struggle between the governor and the assembly over funding for security on the frontier, one in which the assembly wished to tax the lands of the Penn family,” he explains.

The letter wasn’t about liberty but about taxes and the ability to “raise money for defense against French and Indian attacks. The governor kept vetoing the assembly’s efforts at the behest of the family, which had appointed him.”

 

[YumaRivernaut]

Trump Supporters: We need the 2nd Amendment in case the government ever tries to take away any of our rights.

*Unidentified Government agents start taking US Citizens away in rented vans violating their rights*

Trump Supporters: Thank you so much......I just Love the big government secret police.......

Are you fucking stupid?
What part of "terrorist organization" dont you get son?
They forfeited their rights when it was declared.
You're a just stirring shit because you're a lonely old boring narcissistic shell of a man.

 

[YumaRivernaut]

They’re effective at identity concealment.

And mind control.

 

[regor]

Im concerned about why they support doing nothing about the now 300% rise in shootings in NYC since this time last year.
An additional 100% ANNUAL INCREASE in only one week. Calculate that out for the remainder of the year...
Mayor Beetlejuice in Chicago is on video rolling out the “census cowboy” as the solution to Chicago’s all out 3rd world murder stats.
They dropped 4 more (killing 2) in the first 7 hours of today. But I guess as JBS says it’s unthinkable to do anything about it...

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No, their only concern is blaming Trump.
If he sent no one, they’d blame him for that as well...or rather, blame us for electing him.
Same old drivel.

It's very easy to understand what they do and why they do it.

They got in bed with a stinky ass commie and they're losing their investment rapidly.

 

[was thatguy]

It's very easy to understand what they do and why they do it.


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They got in bed with a stinky ass commie and they're losing their investment rapidly.

But how do they justify supporting (ignoring?) violence in major cities that eclipses El Salvador?
I realize that the oracle operates in business without any moral compass, he stated that outright in a post about answering to share holders.
But how does that equate to supporting murder?
They are both vilifying cops and Trump, and us ...oh...never mind, I see it now.

 

[regor]

But how do they justify supporting (ignoring?) violence in major cities that eclipses El Salvador?
I realize that the oracle operates in business without any moral compass, he stated that outright in a post about answering to share holders.
But how does that equate to supporting murder?
They are both vilifying cops and Trump, and us ...oh...never mind, I see it now.

They want ALL attention off China and just like liberals, the only way for that to occur is to remove Orange Man Bad.

Mark my words, this election will be contested to a never seen extent. The MSM is already setting up their sheep's narrative and our RINO's are doing their part as well.

 

[JBS]

Looks like Antifa getting the message that they, as a known domestic terror organization, will be dealt with accordingly. I believe this is OK, and in fact hope they move to the real fix which is to shoot on site, given they are actually enemy combatants. Odd that you, being the lone good upstanding conservative on the board, would not see this for what it is.

I only see what was presented in the video. As I said I do not agree with the rioters, BLM, Antifa etc. It scares me that we are using military or federal agents in place of uniformed police.

 

[regor]

I only see what was presented in the video. As I said I do not agree with the rioters, BLM, Antifa etc. It scares me that we are using military or federal agents in place of uniformed police.

You think it would scare you if your business had been looted or was on the verge of it?

 

[JBS]

Masks aren't effective.

I agree the majority of masks are not. But the people of Portland and many other places require them.

When it comes to this type of thing, Masks, Vaccinations, etc you and are are in total agreement.

 

[YumaRivernaut]

They want ALL attention off China

AS WELL AS EPSTEIN AND THE GLOBAL PEDO CONTOL SYSTEM!

 

[JBS]

You think it would scare you if your business had been looted or was on the verge of it?

For sure. I would not run after and club people. If you are coming towards me you are more than likely going to get shot.

The same for an armed person with no agency designation coming at me with clubs.

I know Portland is a total shit show at this point but this video as presented is not the way for us to respond.

I understand many here do not agree. I am not trying to change your mind.

 

[Outdrive1]

I agree the majority of masks are not. But the people of Portland and many other places require them.

When it comes to this type of thing, Masks, Vaccinations, etc you and are are in total agreement.

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[530RL]

But how do they justify supporting (ignoring?) violence in major cities that eclipses El Salvador?
I realize that the oracle operates in business without any moral compass, he stated that outright in a post about answering to share holders.
But how does that equate to supporting murder?
They are both vilifying cops and Trump, and us ...oh...never mind, I see it now.

No one is vilifying the Police.

Those individuals are not the Police. The only identification they have is some velcro embroidery that says police, when in fact the police have stated they are not associated with them. A citizen would have no idea if they were with the government, a drug cartel, or with a terrorist organization.

That is the problem with the Trump administration using "secret" police forces to round up US citizens without respecting the rights afforded to all of us in the Constitution. That is exactly what you people purport to be afraid of from the liberal party. You are concerned about liberals ignoring the Constitution, while you support secret police in rental cars taking US Citizens at force in violation of the Constitution.

It is a very odd situation where you believe the Constitution should only apply, if one supports Trump. On the other hand, when the liberals rip your rights apart as Trump is doing now, I guess you will just shrug and say it is totally cool, because it was totally fine when you did it to your political enemies.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

No one is vilifying the Police.

Those individuals are not the Police. The only identification they have is some velcro embroidery that says police, when in fact the police have stated they are not associated with them. A citizen would have no idea if they were with the government, a drug cartel, or with a terrorist organization.

That is the problem with the Trump administration using "secret" police forces to round up US citizens without respecting the rights afforded to all of us in the Constitution. That is exactly what you people purport to be afraid of from the liberal party. You are concerned about liberals ignoring the Constitution, while you support secret police in rental cars taking US Citizens at force in violation of the Constitution.

It is a very odd situation where you believe the Constitution should only apply, if one supports Trump. On the other hand, when the liberals rip your rights apart as Trump is doing now, I guess you will just shrug and say it is totally cool, because it was totally fine when you did it to your political enemies.

Please enlighten us as to where these people were “taken” and in what “unmarked cars” I saw none of that in the video. Were these people killed? Were they federally charged with a crime? Were they dropped off at the local police precinct? Were they just removed from the area? If we are going by the video clip, the people were simply ushered out of the area.

The fact is that clip is just that, a video clip. Everyone is masked, maybe the whole thing was staged? Maybe those were concerned private citizens, not “Trumps Secret Police”. I can’t tell who anyone is, so making a constitutional statement out of a 40 second video clip where no one was hurt, and no on was taken into any kind of custody is absurd.

If anything is odd, it is the conclusions you draw from a 1 minute video without any other information or context.

 

[was thatguy]

No one is vilifying the Police.

Those individuals are not the Police. The only identification they have is some velcro embroidery that says police, when in fact the police have stated they are not associated with them. A citizen would have no idea if they were with the government, a drug cartel, or with a terrorist organization.

That is the problem with the Trump administration using "secret" police forces to round up US citizens without respecting the rights afforded to all of us in the Constitution. That is exactly what you people purport to be afraid of from the liberal party. You are concerned about liberals ignoring the Constitution, while you support secret police in rental cars taking US Citizens at force in violation of the Constitution.

It is a very odd situation where you believe the Constitution should only apply, if one supports Trump. On the other hand, when the liberals rip your rights apart as Trump is doing now, I guess you will just shrug and say it is totally cool, because it was totally fine when you did it to your political enemies.

At the street level, all I see is good guys and bad guys.
The bad guys are the ones not in camo.


And WTF do you mean “you people”??

 

[regor]

For sure. I would not run after and club people. If you are coming towards me you are more than likely going to get shot.

The same for an armed person with no agency designation coming at me with clubs.

I know Portland is a total shit show at this point but this video as presented is not the way for us to respond.

I understand many here do not agree. I am not trying to change your mind.

It then boils down to whether or not you think the destroying of a city is peaceful or not I guess.

This shit has been going on for years up there and as I said earlier JBS, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

 

[regor]

No one is vilifying the Police.

Those individuals are not the Police. The only identification they have is some velcro embroidery that says police, when in fact the police have stated they are not associated with them. A citizen would have no idea if they were with the government, a drug cartel, or with a terrorist organization.

That is the problem with the Trump administration using "secret" police forces to round up US citizens without respecting the rights afforded to all of us in the Constitution. That is exactly what you people purport to be afraid of from the liberal party. You are concerned about liberals ignoring the Constitution, while you support secret police in rental cars taking US Citizens at force in violation of the Constitution.

It is a very odd situation where you believe the Constitution should only apply, if one supports Trump. On the other hand, when the liberals rip your rights apart as Trump is doing now, I guess you will just shrug and say it is totally cool, because it was totally fine when you did it to your political enemies.

Says the clown that backs corrupt law enforcement and FISA courts that trample on Constitutional rights, to remove an administration he doesn't like.

And once again, the fraud accuses others of doing EXACTLY what he does......................................

 

[500bbc]

I am not in support of rioters. If people want to protest that is their right. A friend shared this video today. If it is as it appears it's fucked up. It is also difficult to tell if these are "real" cops or what force they belong to.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10157736544387266

Great video, they should be swing for the fences! Medics

They keep these Biden rallies up they're going to pay the price.

Biden's campaign slogan:

Burn Baby Burn!!!

 

[500bbc]

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Umm that pipe would be boofed up his ass.

 

[500bbc]

It appears that volunteer medical people were trying to help someone and got a beating from people in Camo.

BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

 

[500bbc]

I didn’t see any protest there.
“Protests” generally are a daytime activity where the “message” can be seen and heard by observers. That’s the whole point of protesting, getting a message or dissatisfaction across to leaders and the populace.
What I saw was individuals with full face coverings, some sort of false or misleading armbands and patches (red X’s), dressed in dark clothing scurrying around in the shadows with unknown items in backpacks, and carrying no signs to convey any message.
These are called “vandals”, “rouges”, or “suspicious characters” in real life...not protesters.

Because of the actions of so called leaders, these miscreants have been targeting LEO both on duty and at home.

Whatever those guys are that are confronting the criminals, I’d like to see more of them.

Damn it man, it's not a protest, it's a Biden Rally, their rights to loot and burn are being trampled on!

 

[was thatguy]

The only thing that will bring a response for action from these progressive socialist regimes in these cities is when one or more of their family members gets killed by their friendly law abiding peaceful protesting constituents.

That does seem to change their minds.

 

[500bbc]

Im concerned about why they support doing nothing about the now 300% rise in shootings in NYC since this time last year.
An additional 100% ANNUAL INCREASE in only one week. Calculate that out for the remainder of the year...
Mayor Beetlejuice in Chicago is on video rolling out the “census cowboy” as the solution to Chicago’s all out 3rd world murder stats.
They dropped 4 more (killing 2) in the first 7 hours of today. But I guess as JBS says it’s unthinkable to do anything about it...

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No, their only concern is blaming Trump.
If he sent no one, they’d blame him for that as well...or rather, blame us for electing him.
Same old drivel.

Just as he supports murdering black babies.

 

[was thatguy]

Just as he supports murdering black babies.

They certainly support that in NJ.
All abortion clinics are full steam ahead, but churches are illegal to open.

 

[500bbc]

They certainly support that in NJ.
All abortion clinics are full steam ahead, but churches are illegal to open.

RACIST!!!!!

 

[Lavey29]

I only see what was presented in the video. As I said I do not agree with the rioters, BLM, Antifa etc. It scares me that we are using military or federal agents in place of uniformed police.

Who do you think protects federal property? Buildings, courts, monuments etc...

 

[regor]

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Watch what happens when he wins. That was a politically correct tweet for votes in an election year.

 

[was thatguy]

Long watch, but you’ll get the idea in just a couple minutes.
This is the NYC mayor...the city that has a 300% annual increase in shootings, but has seen that total increase in less than 3 months.
I ask you...what is Trump supposed to do?
Allow it to just continue?
Personally, if I thought that the violence was contained to those involved in it I wouldn’t care if he did ignore it
But yesterday I watched a a NYC vid of a white dude grab a mother and throw her down to the ground, stabbing her and robbing her..WHILE SHE PUSHED A STROLLER WITH A BABY IN IT.
The stroller tipped and baby’s face went straight into the street and curb.

They want anarchy? Well, here it comes.
Sorry, but the time has come. I Trust Trump and his storm troopers a LOT more than I trust any of these mother fuckers.

 

[was thatguy]

I only see what was presented in the video. As I said I do not agree with the rioters, BLM, Antifa etc. It scares me that we are using military or federal agents in place of uniformed police.

Um...uniformed police are being attacked and beaten and killed.
We’re past that.

 

[t&y]

It appears that volunteer medical people were trying to help someone and got a beating from people in Camo.

Oh ok. Here is what I see from someone who has recently been on those lines. Multiple dispersal orders given with warning about moving (this is standard all though it was not shown in this video). Pushing the line and they come across people standing around some guy laying on the ground. Doesn't show those standing around him providing any medical care. More orders and eventually they engage them physically. If you actually watch the engagement there is nothing going on until the guy walking backwards starts messing with his buddies back pack. How about they just simply obey the orders and get the fuck out of there? I know, too simple.

Here is a big hint JBS. If you decide to go out and act like a jackass at a Peaceful Protest, when the cops start making announcements to disperse, you need to get the fuck out of there unless you want to play. Those "volunteer medical" people were not there for the police. They were there for the "Peaceful Protestors". That does not give them some special rights to ignore lawful orders.

 

[YumaRivernaut]

The same for an armed person with no agency designation coming at me with clubs.

I hear ya on that.