The Outboard Church

[Bullhead bully]

Bully, this 28 with bone stock 300XS may give you a run once it's dialed in............
It runs circles around my big ugly turd.

Let's go play !!!

 

[lake p.a.l.]

Let's go play !!!

I figured that would be your response. It would be fun. He ran 109 yesterday with a ton of throttle left. He wouldn't tell me what rpm he was at. I can tell you it accelerates really hard, especially for stock 300s.

 

[lake p.a.l.]

It's going to be exciting to see how Dan's 28 RGR/Doug Wright runs once it's finally dialed in. I realize his 28 and Bully's 28 Nordic are very different boats but similar in size. I'm certain Bully's Nordic weighs a lot more but it also has 200 more horsepower. I am in NO WAY talking down about Bully's incredible Nordic, just pondering the differences between the 2 boats. Dan's 28 is very much purpose built with 4 bucket seats, no gauges except the vessel view, and built very light. Very similar to Bully, Dan loves to roll miles on his boats and isn't afraid to run them wide open for miles upon miles, once he gets comfortable with the boat. It's going to be fun watching Dan & Bully's progress with both of these amazing machines.

 

[DLow]

It's going to be exciting to see how Dan's 28 RGR/Doug Wright runs once it's finally dialed in. I realize his 28 and Bully's 28 Nordic are very different boats but similar in size. I'm certain Bully's Nordic weighs a lot more but it also has 200 more horsepower. I am in NO WAY talking down about Bully's incredible Nordic, just pondering the differences between the 2 boats. Dan's 28 is very much purpose built with 4 bucket seats, no gauges except the vessel view, and built very light. Very similar to Bully, Dan loves to roll miles on his boats and isn't afraid to run them wide open for miles upon miles, once he gets comfortable with the boat. It's going to be fun watching Dan & Bully's progress with both of these amazing machines.

So, what was the reason behind going with 300s instead of the 400s? It seems as though cost doesn't appear to be a huge factor when you build that caliber of boat new.

 

[lake p.a.l.]

So, what was the reason behind going with 300s instead of the 400s? It seems as though cost doesn't appear to be a huge factor when you build that caliber of boat new.

You are correct, it was not about cost. He was very worried about CG with all that extra weight hanging off the back. Dan loves to run the sloughs of the Delta and handling was a BIG focus. He also gets out to some big water at times and didn't want the boat that ass heavy. It already sits pretty low in the water at the stern with the 300's. There is another one of these 28's being built right now with twin 400R.

 

[War Canoe]

She wants to know if there is gum on her shoe....

 

[Bullhead bully]

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[lake p.a.l.]

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Absofrickinlutely!!!!

 

[UAV.Pilot]

Love it! Fuck Kale!!!

 

[War Canoe]

Wild Bill and I will be there...

Stoker and Cougar...should be fun!

 

[War Canoe]

Got some gas for my "plane" ....:skull

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

First run with 2.5 / 260's on my Daytona 22. Starboard engine runs hot, port engine runs cold. Engine height needs work, as well as water pressure. Set it up for props spinning in, I need to try spinning out as well. Any advice from the church would be appreciated. Running 32 cleaver 3 blades.

[video=youtube_https;wLDaqEcgQdc]https://youtu.be/wLDaqEcgQdc[/video]

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

 

[lake p.a.l.]

Nice looking Daytona, bet it's a blast.

 

[shueman]

Mike LaPaglia's (sp?) 25' at the Mothership this week for some interior work ...

 

[Bullhead bully]

First run with 2.5 / 260's on my Daytona 22. Starboard engine runs hot, port engine runs cold. Engine height needs work, as well as water pressure. Set it up for props spinning in, I need to try spinning out as well. Any advice from the church would be appreciated. Running 32 cleaver 3 blades.

[video=youtube_https;wLDaqEcgQdc]https://youtu.be/wLDaqEcgQdc[/video]

Yes. Definitely get the engine height even and the water pressure should also be pretty even at that point ( within about five psi of each other is close enough One will always run a little more than the other just works that way ). Not sure if you have adjustability there or not? I am not an expert with 2.5's. But every outboard I have set up encountered a lot of the same things you're dealing with.
Get the water pressure even.
Run the X as absolutely high as possible without losing water pressure and the steering still feels good. No funny sideways stuff at high speed.
Try Spin in. Spin out.
Try every set of propellers you can get your hands on.
I have about 15 sets of props. Most of them are pitched above 30 and round ear bravos. Not sure if that work for you.
I'm thinking three or four blade cleavers would probably be the best for that set up.
When you find the right prop you'll know pretty quick.

What engines did you have on there before? How did they run with what propellers? Spinning in spinning out etc.?

 

[stoker22405]

Mike LaPaglia's (sp?) 25' at the Mothership this week for some interior work ...
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Will Eliminator lay up the same style hull..( No Canopies )..Or did they trash them?

 

[War Canoe]

We found some issues, we had some fun. Good to be back on the water with Wild Bill.

The DBR ran perfect, the Yamaha looked strong with the new ECU !!!

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Will Eliminator lay up the same style hull..( No Canopies )..Or did they trash them?

There is one in the mold now

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Yes. Definitely get the engine height even and the water pressure should also be pretty even at that point ( within about five psi of each other is close enough One will always run a little more than the other just works that way ). Not sure if you have adjustability there or not? I am not an expert with 2.5's. But every outboard I have set up encountered a lot of the same things you're dealing with.
Get the water pressure even.
Run the X as absolutely high as possible without losing water pressure and the steering still feels good. No funny sideways stuff at high speed.
Try Spin in. Spin out.
Try every set of propellers you can get your hands on.
I have about 15 sets of props. Most of them are pitched above 30 and round ear bravos. Not sure if that work for you.
I'm thinking three or four blade cleavers would probably be the best for that set up.
When you find the right prop you'll know pretty quick.

What engines did you have on there before? How did they run with what propellers? Spinning in spinning out etc.?

I had carb'd 2.4 mod vp's, 220 hp, ran 94 and I was spinning out.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Will Eliminator lay up the same style hull..( No Canopies )..Or did they trash them?

Besides the gel, I think that would be my dream set-up. I love the lines of the 25 and I love me some 2 smokers.

 

[War Canoe]

Nothing like yellow sunshine.

 

[pwerwagn]

I had carb'd 2.4 mod vp's, 220 hp, ran 94 and I was spinning out.

How high do you have them right now? What about toe? Max rpm/top speed?

I run my 300's about 1.5" up. My engine temps vary side to side as well, as does water pressure somewhat.

 

[shueman]

Will Eliminator lay up the same style hull..( No Canopies )..Or did they trash them?

We still have the 25' Daytona "Classic" molds, but the wood floor single step and the newer inner-liner double step. We are prepping the molds right now to build this Classic for a customer in Louisville, KY ...

 

[stoker22405]

We still have the 25' Daytona "Classic" molds, but the wood floor single step and the newer inner-liner double step. We are prepping the molds right now to build this Classic for a customer in Louisville, KY ...

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Thank You for the info....

 

[shueman]

Had a blast running from Blythe to Picacho on Saturday ... just some of the pix from the day ...

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Had a blast running from Blythe to Picacho on Saturday ... just some of the pix from the day ...

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[HST4ME]

First run with 2.5 / 260's on my Daytona 22. Starboard engine runs hot, port engine runs cold. Engine height needs work, as well as water pressure. Set it up for props spinning in, I need to try spinning out as well. Any advice from the church would be appreciated. Running 32 cleaver 3 blades.

[video=youtube_https;wLDaqEcgQdc]https://youtu.be/wLDaqEcgQdc[/video]

Watching the water dumps you have some work to do before something bad happens.

 

[War Canoe]

Served hot !

 

[lake p.a.l.]

Rev & Bully, when can we expect some awesome pics from Desert Storm?

 

[War Canoe]

Rev & Bully, when can we expect some awesome pics from Desert Storm?

Flying commercial to Bully's and then flying the Cirrus to Havasu. We may do things a little different this year. We are going to be in the air, over the course. I will get some killer shots from above in the plane.

Thursday night is Street Fair...should be a visual evening!
early session in the 28' Friday morning...visit Joe Abellera's shop...then get in the plane and fly the course for a couple hours...maybe late lunch in Parker with Scarlata...then a nice dinner in Havasu , complete with a good cigar!

I'll be posting on the Church whenever I can during the weekend.

Saturday shootout...
Sunday , more boating!

 

[lake p.a.l.]

Is Bully running the shootout?

 

[Bullhead bully]

Is Bully running the shootout?

No shoot out for me. I have a hard time watching it. Almost like watching baseball or golf. I watch it till the first commercial then I'm gone. Kind of boring.

Best part about the shoot out is if the weathers nice a whole bunch of boats tied together and we have a good time. And occasionally see a boat go by.

I'd rather lay down 150 miles with the Reverend.

 

[lake p.a.l.]

No shoot out for me. I have a hard time watching it. Almost like watching baseball or golf. I watch it till the first commercial then I'm gone. Kind of boring.

Best part about the shoot out is if the weathers nice a whole bunch of boats tied together and we have a good time. And occasionally see a boat go by.

I'd rather lay down 150 miles with the Reverend.

I still haven't been to DS but one of these years. I completely agree with running our boats versus sitting and gabbing about other boats. We can sit, gab, drink, smoke cigars, etc AFTER we run our boats 150+ miles. I don't buy my boats for them to barely get used.

 

[War Canoe]

Look up, the Church may be dive bombing from above.....

 

[War Canoe]

The Church has a Vee in the stable.

 

[War Canoe]

:champagne:

 

[HST4ME]

 

[War Canoe]

 

[Badbait]

The Church has a Vee in the stable.

Yes it did get here and I am looking forward to the challenge of getting this setup so that it runs well.

 

[War Canoe]

 

[War Canoe]

Street fair is going off today! :skull

 

[shueman]

I still haven't been to DS but one of these years. I completely agree with running our boats versus sitting and gabbing about other boats. We can sit, gab, drink, smoke cigars, etc AFTER we run our boats 150+ miles. I don't buy my boats for them to barely get used.

Next year is the 20th :eek Might be one to come down for ...

 

[lake p.a.l.]

Next year is the 20th :eek Might be one to come down for ...

Bully and War Canoe would have to give me a 20 minute head start anytime we went anywhere in my slow ass Skater. It sure looks like a blast.

 

[War Canoe]

Blinging along....

The MTI boats were out in force!

 

[War Canoe]

They were everywhere!

 

[War Canoe]

Great show!

 

[War Canoe]

The Reverend was graciously invited to participate in Desert Storm in style....

The Bully gave me HIS seat in Sandy's Badass DW cat...

See you out there!

 

[RaceTec]

The Church has a Vee in the stable.

Superboat?

 

[War Canoe]

:skull

The Church is in the thick of it now!