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[WhatExit?]

It's long past time for Americans to stand up against the tyranny! What are we waiting for?!

 

[WhatExit?]

 

[just_floatin]

 

[HNL2LHC]

Seen stories on that establishment. I’d be down there if close. I agree that the people need to be out in the streets in mass. It was nice to see one other person out last night without a mask on.

 

[Lavey29]

My opinion is the radical left is using covid and the lockdowns as a tool to further destroy the middle class and force a large segment of the population into poverty so they become totally dependent on the government for everything. It fits into their socialist ideology and redistribution of wealth agenda.

I totally agree with that guys angry stance

 

[squeezer]

My opinion is the radical left is using covid and the lockdowns as a tool to further destroy the middle class and force a large segment of the population into poverty so they become totally dependent on the government for everything. It fits into their socialist ideology and redistribution of wealth agenda.

I totally agree with that guys angry stance

Your entitled to your opinion but please be aware that its absolutely ridiculous to believe the "Radical Left" are somehow scheming to destroy the middle class.

The middle class in this country grew when we had strong unions and a wage base that gave working class people much more buying power.

Anybody who thinks they support the middle class while not supporting unions and a minimum wage about 3X what it is now doesn't really support a middle class.

 

[Lavey29]

Your entitled to your opinion but please be aware that its absolutely ridiculous to believe the "Radical Left" are somehow scheming to destroy the middle class.

The middle class in this country grew when we had strong unions and a wage base that gave working class people much more buying power.

Anybody who thinks they support the middle class while not supporting unions and a minimum wage about 3X what it is now doesn't really support a middle class.

Do socialist or marxists controlled countries have a middle class or are they 2 class systems?

 

[lbhsbz]

Your entitled to your opinion but please be aware that its absolutely ridiculous to believe the "Radical Left" are somehow scheming to destroy the middle class.

The middle class in this country grew when we had strong unions and a wage base that gave working class people much more buying power.

Anybody who thinks they support the middle class while not supporting unions and a minimum wage about 3X what it is now doesn't really support a middle class.

So...you think burger flippers at McDonalds should be pulling down $45/hour?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Do socialist or marxists controlled countries have a middle class or are they 2 class systems?

Zing!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

So...you think burger flippers at McDonalds should be pulling down $45/hour?

LOL there wont be any if that was the case. At $15/hour they are already implementing automation to eliminate jobs.

 

[t&y]

My view, I'll treat it like the wanted us to treat all the peaceful protests.. So I guess we'll just sit back and watch.

 

[SNiC Jet]

Do socialist or marxists controlled countries have a middle class or are they 2 class systems?

And like the Today's U.S.A, their peoples votes are null and voided as well.

 

[squeezer]

Do socialist or marxists controlled countries have a middle class or are they 2 class systems?

You can bury your head in the "Its Socialism" sandbox for as long as you want... Not going to change the fact that in THIS COUTRY our middle class was strongest when our unions were strongest. Growing the middle class is facilitated by people who are not in the middle class having more $$$ to spend. The absolute best way to do that is to make sure they are paid a fair wage.

I would MUCH rather require Walmart to pay $20/Hr and not have so many of their associates on welfare. That welfare is a direct subsidy into the offshore accounts of one of the richest families in the world.

-Wal-Mart gets $7.8 billion a year in corporate welfare. $6.2 billion of that are in the form of social welfare their employees get via things like Section 8, SNAP, and Medicaid because Wal-Mart doesn’t offer a living wage for most employees. They are America’s biggest private employer.

https://www.listenmoneymatters.com/corporate-welfare/


But yea... Keep telling yourself we don't need this to change

 

[squeezer]

So...you think burger flippers at McDonalds should be pulling down $45/hour?

You pick the time in history when you think America had the strongest middle class and I will tell you what I think the minimum wage should be...

(Hint: Its NOT the minimum wage of the time in 2020 dollars.)

 

[lbhsbz]

You pick the time in history when you think America had the strongest middle class and I will tell you what I think the minimum wage should be...

(Hint: Its NOT the minimum wage of the time in 2020 dollars.)

answer my question

 

[squeezer]

Never thought I'd see this in The United States. The Constitution is being shredded right before our eyes and those elected to represent us don't seem to give a fuck. Wake up folks, this shit will eventually wind up crawling across your front lawn.

After 4 years of Trump using the Constitution as toilet paper at Mar-A-Lago you have finally decided to care...

Welcome to my world!!!

 

[rcmike]

You can bury your head in the "Its Socialism" sandbox for as long as you want... Not going to change the fact that in THIS COUTRY our middle class was strongest when our unions were strongest. Growing the middle class is facilitated by people who are not in the middle class having more $$$ to spend. The absolute best way to do that is to make sure they are paid a fair wage.

I would MUCH rather require Walmart to pay $20/Hr and not have so many of their associates on welfare. That welfare is a direct subsidy into the offshore accounts of one of the richest families in the world.

-Wal-Mart gets $7.8 billion a year in corporate welfare. $6.2 billion of that are in the form of social welfare their employees get via things like Section 8, SNAP, and Medicaid because Wal-Mart doesn’t offer a living wage for most employees. They are America’s biggest private employer.

https://www.listenmoneymatters.com/corporate-welfare/


But yea... Keep telling yourself we don't need this to change

Working as a shelf stocker or fry dipper is not supposed to be a career. Its supposed to be a first job that teaches you how to show up on time.

Maybe if you did not work to elect people who want to send career jobs to China, there would be a step up the ladder from there.

In the mean time, there are no part time minimum wage jobs for high school kids to get experience and learn that being at work means a 4-6 hours vacation from the phone..

 

[squeezer]

answer my question

A burger flipper should be paid $15-20/hr depending on the city or state they live in.

 

[squeezer]

Working as a shelf stocker or fry dipper is not supposed to be a career. Its supposed to be a first job that teaches you how to show up on time.

Maybe if you did not work to elect people who want to send career jobs to China, there would be a step up the ladder from there.

In the mean time, there are no part time minimum wage jobs for high school kids to get experience and learn that being at work means a 4-6 hours vacation from the phone..

I agree that fry cook should not be a career, but saying that doesnt change the fact that it is a much bigger part of our workforce than it used to be. Like it or not, the USA swinging from a manufacturing economy to a service economy is a reality that we have to deal with.


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Visualizing 150 Years of U.S. Employment History

How has the share of total jobs changed over time by sector? This compelling chart shows over 150 years of U.S. employment history by industry.

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[Outdrive1]

Who are you gonna fight first? You gonna go find some Democrats and run your trap? Maybe shoot some liberal politicians? Maybe you can over whelm them with conspiracy theories. Lets see your militia costume Dan.

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[rcmike]

I agree that fry cook should not be a career, but saying that doesnt change the fact that it is a much bigger part of our workforce than it used to be. Like it or not, the USA swinging from a manufacturing economy to a service economy is a reality that we have to deal with.

That is a choice made by idiot voters (like you) who vote in politician who sell their office to the highest bidder, and use policy to send jobs overseas..

 

[squeezer]

That is a choice made by idiot voters (like you) who vote in politician who sell their office to the highest bidder, and use policy to send jobs overseas..

As in most things spewed by the Tighty Righties around here... Reality does not exactly match the narrative.

Under Trump, American jobs sent overseas hits five-year record high

Almost 100,000 jobs have been lost to overseas competition since Trump took office — a higher rate than at any time in the past five years.

americanindependent.com

 

[mjc]

A burger flipper should be paid $15-20/hr depending on the city or state they live in.

So then every other job has to go up a like amount in wages. So then you have no more buying power even then

 

[squeezer]

So then every other job has to go up a like amount in wages. So then you have no more buying power even then

Not exactly... Labor/Benefits are roughly 39% of typical McDonalds overhead. Thats all labor not just the minimum wage folks. Motleyfool has a decent breakdown and sensitivity analysis of the expected impacts.

What Will a Minimum Wage Increase Cost You at McDonald's? | The Motley Fool

There's concern that a higher minimum wage would cost you more at McDonald's and while that may be true it's surprising how much prices may actually go up.

www.fool.com

I would happily pay 27% more for a Big Mac if i knew every employee made at least $15/Hr. (Full disclaimer: I dont actually eat at McDonald's so this is very much a hypothetical example...)

 

[PlanB]

A burger flipper should be paid $15-20/hr depending on the city or state they live in.

Damn, you are a fucking idiot....

 

[squeezer]

Damn, you are a fucking idiot....

Stop channeling my wife and get back to how we rebuild the middle class.

 

[Lavey29]

You can bury your head in the "Its Socialism" sandbox for as long as you want... Not going to change the fact that in THIS COUTRY our middle class was strongest when our unions were strongest. Growing the middle class is facilitated by people who are not in the middle class having more $$$ to spend. The absolute best way to do that is to make sure they are paid a fair wage.

I would MUCH rather require Walmart to pay $20/Hr and not have so many of their associates on welfare. That welfare is a direct subsidy into the offshore accounts of one of the richest families in the world.

-Wal-Mart gets $7.8 billion a year in corporate welfare. $6.2 billion of that are in the form of social welfare their employees get via things like Section 8, SNAP, and Medicaid because Wal-Mart doesn’t offer a living wage for most employees. They are America’s biggest private employer.

https://www.listenmoneymatters.com/corporate-welfare/


But yea... Keep telling yourself we don't need this to change

You do realize that being a greeter at Walmart was never designed to be a career job providing someone all the luxuries they seek in life right. Low wage part time jobs were designed to give high school kids a little gas money, to give seniors some casino money etc....they were not designed to provide you the means of a house, feed family of 4, etc...

Unions have their place in our country to ensure fair working conditions for employees but the problem is they have become very political and beholden to their puppet masters. Raising the minimum wage will have a very negative effect if it is raised to high. Employees will be laid off, full time reduced to part time which means no benefits and the cost increase will be passed on to consumers.

My first job at 15 at the local gas station paid 1.65 per hour and it was all full service. I worked my ass off but I knew if I continued on the right path of life pumping gas would not be my career in life.

 

[PlanB]

Stop channeling my wife and get back to how we rebuild the middle class.

If you pay a burger flipper $20.00 bucks an hour all other wages will have to increase. My wife is an accountant, how much should her pay increase?

 

[lbhsbz]

Higher pay = higher income taxes and higher sales taxes. great fucking plan.

 

[WhatExit?]

Your entitled to your opinion but please be aware that its absolutely ridiculous to believe the "Radical Left" are somehow scheming to destroy the middle class.

The middle class in this country grew when we had strong unions and a wage base that gave working class people much more buying power.

Anybody who thinks they support the middle class while not supporting unions and a minimum wage about 3X what it is now doesn't really support a middle class.

Again, you are either clueless or a Marxist. If you're clueless you need more help than we can continue giving you

 

[Lavey29]

As in most things spewed by the Tighty Righties around here... Reality does not exactly match the narrative.

Under Trump, American jobs sent overseas hits five-year record high

Almost 100,000 jobs have been lost to overseas competition since Trump took office — a higher rate than at any time in the past five years.

americanindependent.com

How would you think this is an accurate news story when Trump has the lowest unemployment rate in the history of the country pre covid? Lowest amount of welfare assistance in the history of the country pre covid. Total energy independence. There is so much more but you get the picture, I think.

 

[squeezer]

If you pay a burger flipper $20.00 bucks an hour all other wages will have to increase. My wife is an accountant, how much should her pay increase?

Why?

(If the price of a Big Mac going from $5.75 to $7.40 drastically impacts your purchasing decisions there are other problems with your finances. )

 

[PlanB]

Why?

(If the price of a Big Mac going from $5.75 to $7.40 drastically impacts your purchasing decisions there are other problems with your finances. )

Why would anyone get a degree or training to be able to have a higher paying career if they can just flip burgers for $20.00 an hour? You want to increase the wages of low skilled jobs, but leave higher skilled occupations the same?

ETA: What about retiree's on fixed incomes? How are they supposed to survive when the cost of living sky rockets? Talk about killing the middle class...

 

[squeezer]

Why would anyone get a degree or training to be able to have a higher paying career if they can just flip burgers for $20.00 an hour? You want to increase the wages of low skilled jobs, but leave higher skilled occupations the same?

ETA: What about retiree's on fixed incomes? How are they supposed to survive when the cost of living sky rockets? Talk about killing the middle class...

Funny... Its retiree's on fixed incomes who are flipping burgers and greeting people at Walmart now.


Anybody going after a higher paying career does not have their eye on a $20/Hr job. If that is enough to derail them from higher pursuits they likely were not going to get all that far anyway.

 

[Outdrive1]

Funny... Its retiree's on fixed incomes who are flipping burgers and greeting people at Walmart now.


Anybody going after a higher paying career does not have their eye on a $20/Hr job. If that is enough to derail them from higher pursuits they likely were not going to get all that far anyway.

800 a week before taxes. Lmao. These aren’t the people driving up the housing and toy prices. They arent buying new 100,000 dollar tow vehicles either. [emoji849]


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[rivrrts429]

Funny... Its retiree's on fixed incomes who are flipping burgers and greeting people at Walmart now.


Anybody going after a higher paying career does not have their eye on a $20/Hr job. If that is enough to derail them from higher pursuits they likely were not going to get all that far anyway.

All you’re doing is creating and replacing a new lower skilled worker as evidence by McDonalds.

I don’t care how busy a McDonalds is you rarely get more than one cashier nowadays but you have dozens of computers throughout the store ready for you to give your order to.

Entry level labor will now require trade school minimum. They’ll be the ones fixing the computers that take your order and flip your burger.

Nobody is paying $20 per hour for unskilled labor.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

$20hr min wage, you're off your rocker!! If that where to happen the economy would plummet. Ma&pa places, small businesses would shutter. Not to mention cost of living would go skyrocket. Government would increase taxes. Back to the same as making $12 but with less jobs cause of all the shuttered businesses.

 

[squeezer]

How Trump Took the Middle Class to the Cleaners

Trump said he'd manage the economy to benefit the working class, but he's catered to the already wealthy, leaving Main Street in the gutter.

www.rollingstone.com

 

[PlanB]

Funny... Its retiree's on fixed incomes who are flipping burgers and greeting people at Walmart now.


Anybody going after a higher paying career does not have their eye on a $20/Hr job. If that is enough to derail them from higher pursuits they likely were not going to get all that far anyway.

There are a lot of retiree's on fixed incomes who are getting by just fine, but if you jack up wages on unskilled labor the effect on the cost of living will make them poor. People that have put in the time and work to have a skill to make decent money are going to want an increase in wages if you substantially raise the wages of the non-skilled.

 

[squeezer]

There are a lot of retiree's on fixed incomes who are getting by just fine, but if you jack up wages on unskilled labor the effect on the cost of living will make them poor. People that have put in the time and work to have a skill to make decent money are going to want an increase in wages if you substantially raise the wages of the non-skilled.

I guess they are fucked then! We certainly cant ask the top earners to give up anything. if they did that there would be nothing left to trickle down...

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

You pick the time in history when you think America had the strongest middle class and I will tell you what I think the minimum wage should be...

(Hint: Its NOT the minimum wage of the time in 2020 dollars.)

They were strongest when they were taxed the least. They were strongest when they had to work to succeed. If you have 5 kids and work at Wal Mart as your carreer, you are the problem, not your wage.

 

[PlanB]

I guess they are fucked then! We certainly cant ask the top earners to give up anything. if they did that there would be nothing left to trickle down...

What dollar amount (net) do you consider to be a "top earner"?

 

[94Nautique]

I guess they are fucked then! We certainly cant ask the top earners to give up anything. if they did that there would be nothing left to trickle down...

Yep, better to have trickle up poverty, aided by white privilege and patriarchal abuse.

C’mon, Pete Puma, haven’t you got enough lumps?

 

[PlanB]

They were strongest when they were taxed the least. They were strongest when they had to work to succeed. If you have 5 kids and work at Wal Mart as your carreer, you are the problem, not your wage.

Our friend's kid started having her own kids at 15. She is now in her 20's with four kids and her life got better. She gets government money because the baby daddy is not married to her (they live together though), so on paper she is a single low income mom. She has a side business of cutting hair that is totally under the table that she runs out of her residence. Ghetto rats gaming the system while the middle class continue to get screwed.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

What dollar amount (net) do you consider to be a "top earner"?

Squeezer is too dumb to realize he is a top earner.

 

[Lavey29]

Squeezer is too dumb to realize he is a top earner.

So he is the supervising walmart greeter?

 

[squeezer]

They were strongest when they were taxed the least. They were strongest when they had to work to succeed. If you have 5 kids and work at Wal Mart as your carreer, you are the problem, not your wage.

Name the timeframe in history... When did the USA build its now shrinking middle class? Pick a time period and let’s talk wages/salaries, tax rates, etc

 

[WhatExit?]

Who are you gonna fight first? You gonna go find some Democrats and run your trap? Maybe shoot some liberal politicians? Maybe you can over whelm them with conspiracy theories. Lets see your militia costume Dan.

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Other than your own self interests, which side are you on? And don't think I care because I don't but it we here can know what, other than your day job and hating on me, you care about.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Name the timeframe in history... When did the USA build its now shrinking middle class? Pick a time period and let’s talk wages/salaries, tax rates, etc

Regardless of where toy are on this issue, YOU are viewed as the "upper class".

Why don't you define what the middle class is. You keep talking about Wal Mart greeters and fast food workers. Those people are not middle class. Those are not middle class jobs.

I can tell you taxes, fees, and surcharges have only gone up over time.

The shrinking "middle class" did not start with Trump. The shrinking middle class began with increased regulation and taxation that allowed those jobs to be outsourced to other countries for cheaper. The shrinking middle class began when people were incentivized not to work, and not to succeed, and that the government would help everyone

If anything, tariffs Trump imposed have brought some jobs back, or redirected them out of China at the very least.

If you are talking about how great the middle class used to be.. maybe you are right, maybe we need to Make America Great Again.