Sandlord
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15000 people on a cold and windy day, 60 miles out of town doesn’t sound too bad.
He can’t win again. If he runs he will lose and we will descend further into socialism. I believe he lost the election in the first debate. He had a perfect chance to let Biden babble incoherently but he couldn’t help himself. Trump could cure cancer and the Trump hating media would talk about all the oncologists he put out of work.For all of trumps short comings what he's accomished is nothing short of remarkable.
He was a private citizen who had never been elected anything and he became the president of the United States. Also he succeeded in bringing working class folks into the republican party which they have been working on for years.
Well see if he can win again. Times can change quickly but it's his nomination if he wants it for now.
Not a possibility . If camel toe becomes president they lose the tie in the senate. And the senate has the power to appoint or no appoint a Vice President . I’m sure they will keep the vice presidency empty. They would have to put joe back into the basement on ice.If & when Harris must take over & replace biden Hillary Clinton will be installed Vice President.
(Any minute now)
All I’m saying is pick your battles to win the war.Because it is a fulcrum in this Nations history.
The biggest act of treason I’ve seen in 60 years.
I don’t think 1 year is an adequate length of history for dilution to zero SG.
We still talk about Vietnam, JFK, WWI and WWII and everything in between.
Why are we so quick to dismiss an event that has and will continue to regress this Nation moreso than any past war has?
Imo, it feels as though this attitude is EXACTLY the wishes and rhetoric of those who are in fact stealing our nation right out from under us.
I for one will not go quietly into this night.
Did not realize “Vice Presidentcy“ could be kept empty.Sure as hell living thru historic times. Gonna be interesting history books & internet content 100 years from now.Not a possibility . If camel toe becomes president they lose the tie in the senate. And the senate has the power to appoint or no appoint a Vice President . I’m sure they will keep the vice presidency empty. They would have to put joe back into the basement on ice.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion.Crenshaw sucks. Might as well vote democrat.
The left is emboldened like never before. I hear this echoed by many friends I made when I interned for the Republican Party and RGA in college many of whom work in politics or lobbying. If the left loses midterms, they will go for broke..even if they win they will go for broke. They have all of the media in their back pocket at this point...even Fox News. The media is a cancer on society at this point, second only to social media.Its possible there will be cheating again. (Quote that)
and if there is, I hope its so massive that nobody will be able to deny it.
Maybe thats what it’ll take to get election integrity back.
Please explain how “they will go broke”. LolThe left is emboldened like never before. I hear this echoed by many friends I made when I interned for the Republican Party and RGA in college many of whom work in politics or lobbying. If the left loses midterms, they will go for broke..even if they win they will go for broke. They have all of the media in their back pocket at this point...even Fox News. The media is a cancer on society at this point, second only to social media.
Go “for” brokePlease explain how “they will go broke”. Lol
Very well put SirHe’s too focused on the negative. Americans are sick of bad dark news. If wants to rise above the BS he should deliver a Ronald Reagan “what America can be” speech and he would hit it out of the park.
Americans are starved for optimism right now. Forget everything that is going on and drive all energy toward where we need to be and what it will be like when we are there.
Yup... 100% unfortunately.The left is emboldened like never before. I hear this echoed by many friends I made when I interned for the Republican Party and RGA in college many of whom work in politics or lobbying. If the left loses midterms, they will go for broke..even if they win they will go for broke. They have all of the media in their back pocket at this point...even Fox News. The media is a cancer on society at this point, second only to social media.
ElectionsOne thing that the last two elections have proven is anyone can be elected President of the United States
Seems like I remember four years of bellyaching from the other side when Hillary didn’t get elected. What’s the difference this time except the media is in the left’s back pocket.As said.. too much about the election results. Yesterday’s news…He’s a world class manager, don’t dwell on the past move on…He fully understands, so not sure why he can’t put it behind and get on with the job.
Ha Ha Thanks for the correction.Go “for” broke
I’m 34
Although some states are working to restrict who may return a ballot, as of August 2020 prior to the election, in most states Ballot Harvesting, specifically allowing someone else to return a ballot for a voter or allowing someone else to ask to return your ballot for you was not illegal or “cheating”. Only one state by law explicitly only allows the voter to return their ballot.There is a bit of accurate opinion in many responses her, and as a ply sci major, yeah go figure, here is my 2 cents as to Trumps loss;
1. he had a golden opportunity in the first debate, as noted above, he blew it. that alone could have sealed it, be smart about it.
2. The media is 99% against him, so since many Americans are sheep, and cannot think for themselves, and believe everything they hear in the media, their minds were lied to, and they believed it all. Russia included.
3. His campaign failed to convince enough Black people to vote for him, and they had a good chance to do so. That is a huge hurdle as many urban black people think 80% alike and listed to the pastor in church. A shame, because just Trumps ability to almost eliminate urban unemployment is a feat in itself.
4. Ballot harvesting, this is the "cheating" RD spoke of, and it happens. Often by persuading of others, old folks homes, etc. In cali this is how the libs keep in control, and setting voting districts in their favor.
I have missed other points, but this is a major points
Are you guy’s delusional?
Look, I’m no “Regor-ette”, and am no Trumpkin fanboy.
But have we already forgotten what happened barely a year ago?
We watched vote tally STOP in the middle of the night.
We saw networks call States for Brandon with barely 15% polling completed. While other States stalled FOR DAYS. We saw poll workers board up windows, we watched video of them literally pulling suitcases of ballots out from under tables.
Who in there right mind believes that any sort of election integrity exists?
Are you seriously going to berate Trump for pointing out the truth??
If this thread is a microcosm of the general populace then we are fucking done.
We do not deserve this Nation that our founders sacrificed everything to create.
We are truly a nation of self absorbed losers.
Hand over your guns now, we DO NOT deserve the right of ownership. Burn the bill of rights because we DO NOT deserve any of them.
1st and 2nd not the least.
This thread reads like a cnn rhetorical talking point broadcast.
God help this nation.
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We don’t have a republic anymoreThis plus a 100 other things. They “stopped” counting only to keep counting.. but somehow process more votes than possible in the time frame all 100% for one candidate.
Anyone that thinks this election was secure and fair is delusional. Until they truly figure that out we don’t have a republic.
100% the vote was not right. As in my previous post, if you can’t prove who you are, and not on the list they have there and look at, go home.This plus a 100 other things. They “stopped” counting only to keep counting.. but somehow process more votes than possible in the time frame all 100% for one candidate.
Anyone that thinks this election was secure and fair is delusional. Until they truly figure that out we don’t have a republic.
Did not realize “Vice Presidentcy“ could be kept empty.Sure as hell living thru historic times. Gonna be interesting history books & internet content 100 years from now.
Isn't that the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!
If the take this midterm election to the same extreme they had to like ( trump had the most ever votes ever! In a Presidential election. and basement pull-up wearing biden got more? Trump got 25% more black vote 3o% more Hispanic ) so where did shart pants get those vote) if they think letting people into the capital was Insurrection they better get better personal guards. Because they will not work in mobs ( Promoted by liberals, FBI) into the capital. They will start taking them out like the rats they are. I’m just saying. People have had enough of being taken advantage of for political gain and destroying the country
Unfortunately you’re probably rightThere is zero reason to believe that they won’t do it again even more aggressively and openly than last time. There is no real reason for them to fear any action. Nothing happened last time, in fact people are actually accepting it.
No , all politicians that are not following the founding principals should be swinging from a bridge after they have been shot .When the Democrats lose the House and Senate in the mid terms later this year I’m pretty confident we will be hearing from the D’s about all the fraud and voter suppression by the R’s.
We as a people have now decided that no matter who wins, the other side cheated and it doesn’t matter if those alleging the fraud can prove it or not in a court of law consistent with our laws and Constitution. Just keep repeating it, it must be true or our side would have won.
It is an interesting culture where no longer are there winners and losers, just excuses. Where there is no way to reconcile amongst the people as neither side believes our institutions are fair and as such neither has ever really lost, just been cheated by the other sides fraud.
I guess we as a country have regressed to the point where even all politicians now deserve a trophy, whether they won or lost.
That is exactly what both sides fervently believe.No , all politicians that are not following the founding principals should be swinging from a bridge after they have been shot .
They did do it in both gubernatorial races right after.. same algorithm etc.There is zero reason to believe that they won’t do it again even more aggressively and openly than last time. There is no real reason for them to fear any action. Nothing happened last time, in fact people are actually accepting it.
When the Democrats lose the House and Senate in the mid terms later this year I’m pretty confident we will be hearing from the D’s about all the fraud and voter suppression by the R’s.
We as a people have now decided that no matter who wins, the other side cheated and it doesn’t matter if those alleging the fraud can prove it or not in a court of law consistent with our laws and Constitution. Just keep repeating it, it must be true or our side would have won.
It is an interesting culture where no longer are there winners and losers, just excuses. Where there is no way to reconcile amongst the people as neither side believes our institutions are fair and as such neither has ever really lost, just been cheated by the other sides fraud.
I guess we as a country have regressed to the point where even all politicians now deserve a trophy, whether they won or lost.
I know you truly believe there was no fraud..
Why did they stop the counting? When they stopped did they actually stop? (If so where did they vote drips come from later that night? When in any election in history has their been verticals (100% vote drops).
There Is so much fucked up with that program it is painfully obvious there was cheating. How not sure but it happened. That isn’t excuses that’s reality.
I know you truly believe there was no fraud..
Why did they stop the counting? When they stopped did they actually stop? (If so where did they vote drips come from later that night? When in any election in history has their been verticals (100% vote drops).
There Is so much fucked up with that program it is painfully obvious there was cheating. How not sure but it happened. That isn’t excuses that’s reality.
This has been a large issue for myself.Well he hasn’t been able to prove it in a court of law consistent with the Constitution? And right or wrong, that is the bar by which we measure things in our Republic.
So I have two choices.
One is to say fuck it, the entire system the founding fathers set up, both on the federal level and the state levels is a deep state filled with fraud, treachery and cheating. The executive branch is corrupt, the judicial branch is corrupt, the legislative branch is corrupt. It is a system that despite the founding fathers best efforts is a complete failure. Fuck it, let’s end it as we know it. Basically the Trump speech Saturday night.
Or, I can accept that it ain’t perfect, always work to try to improve it, but understand and accept that it beats the shit out of the other hundred or so countries I have worked in?
I’m going with option two.
I didn't vote for Trump twice for the man himself, I voted for Trump because he gets shit done and doesn't give a phuck who likes him or not!!Honest question.
What happened with Gore and W. Bush?
I remember it came down to Florida and voting “miscalculations”.
But I don’t remember any large blow back (born in 91)
I’m not saying that the election didn’t have fraud (on both sides). But....... votes being counted could be inputted in lump sums no? Meaning in theory if there were 100 votes total, 90 votes for A and 10 votes for B there’s a chance that you could input “X” amount of votes and they are all for person “A” in a certain timeframe.
I’ve always stood by the idea that those who were/are pro Trump cannot see the fact that the left and some of the middle hated him.
I think a fair argument could be made that the reason Trump was elected is because the majority of Americans were tired of the same old political BS.
If the above is true then it’s entirely possible that people would vote against Trump simply because he hurt their feelings.
I’m sure I’ll be called a liberal for this.
I know you truly believe there was no fraud..
Why did they stop the counting? When they stopped did they actually stop? (If so where did they vote drips come from later that night? When in any election in history has their been verticals (100% vote drops).
There Is so much fucked up with that program it is painfully obvious there was cheating. How not sure but it happened. That isn’t excuses that’s reality.
What thoughts are liberal?I didn't vote for Trump twice for the man himself, I voted for Trump because he gets shit done and doesn't give a phuck who likes him or not!!
BTW- You have very liberal thoughts my friend!! What gives
This has been a large issue for myself.
It’s said Trump lost the election due to fraud
However the Supreme Court just stopped vaccine mandates per OSHA.
So the system works? Or it doesn’t?
If the system is screwed then so be it. That means all of it is screwed IMO. You can’t say the system works when it aligns with your thoughts, and then turn around say it failed when the opposite happens.
What did I miss?The irony is palpable.
What did I miss?
I think I’ve always maintained a pretty consistent stance?
I know it’s an unpopular opinion. But I think 530 is one of the more consistent P&G members.Not so much you as the sub human you are agreeing with.
He’s is the grand champion of consistent inconsistency.
I know it’s an unpopular opinion. But I think 530 is one of the more consistent P&G members.
I’m sure I’ll be name called, which is fine lol.
But I’ve seen plenty of arguments from both sides that disregard the constitution and history when it favors their argument.
The vaccine is the hot topic currently. States and the Fed say it’s mandatory. Supreme Court slaps that down. That should mean that the system works.
Doesn’t mean I don’t think Biden is an idiot.
Dave, just curious if they did this in 1 place ? 1 state ? Or 1 county you are specifically talking about ? I’m wanting to learn what actual facts are out there ? I’ve said this before , as the “most powerful man” in the world at that time I wonder why he didn’t March his ass down there and find out what the heck was going on if he knew something fishy was going on. I can’t fathom if I was president and I thought something weird was going on I think my ass would have taken the jet right down there to see for my self.I know you truly believe there was no fraud..
Why did they stop the counting? When they stopped did they actually stop? (If so where did they vote drips come from later that night? When in any election in history has their been verticals (100% vote drops).
There Is so much fucked up with that program it is painfully obvious there was cheating. How not sure but it happened. That isn’t excuses that’s reality.
Dave, just curious if they did this in 1 place ? 1 state ? Or 1 county you are specifically talking about ? I’m wanting to learn what actual facts are out there ? I’ve said this before , as the “most powerful man” in the world at that time I wonder why he didn’t March his ass down there and find out what the heck was going on if he knew something fishy was going on. I can’t fathom if I was president and I thought something weird was going on I think my ass would have taken the jet right down there to see for my self.
Some deserve a Noose, but that's Racist.When the Democrats lose the House and Senate in the mid terms later this year I’m pretty confident we will be hearing from the D’s about all the fraud and voter suppression by the R’s.
We as a people have now decided that no matter who wins, the other side cheated and it doesn’t matter if those alleging the fraud can prove it or not in a court of law consistent with our laws and Constitution. Just keep repeating it, it must be true or our side would have won.
It is an interesting culture where no longer are there winners and losers, just excuses. Where there is no way to reconcile amongst the people as neither side believes our institutions are fair and as such neither has ever really lost, just been cheated by the other sides fraud.
I guess we as a country have regressed to the point where even all politicians now deserve a trophy, whether they won or lost.
I think Tommy answered this question quite well, no need to beat on my keyboard.What thoughts are liberal?