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I have a 2004 caliber 1 that I'd like to update the gauges, steering wheel, controls, and switch panel but there are a lot of different manufacturers and i know little about them.

Currently my set up came from the factory with Faria gauges and gaffrig offshore controls.

Besides livorsi, who makes a decent gauge? This boat isn't a DCB so I don't need over the top hardware, just looking to freshen things up a bit.

Has anyone done a similar update and have any pointers?

Is switching all this out plug and play or does it take some effort?
 

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Let see the helm as it is and I will give you some pointers..

A lot of guys like the Isotta style steering wheels.. maybe it’s the old school in me but I prefer impy style billet wheels. Possibly a helm extension

Livorsi makes The gauges you want but auto meter makes nice sets as well. Personally I’d go with Livorsi because you can update tab / trim gauges etc to the new styles..


show us some pics! How crazy ya want to go?
 

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Following! I would really like to get a new switch panel and rockers over the winter also. Does anybody in Havasu do this?
 

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I realize it might be more than you are looking to do but...

If I was going to redo my dash (which I keep thinking about) I would go all the way and use vessel view or other panel screens. If I’m updating I might as well go all the way even though it will require a little glass work to be done.

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I'm nearly done with my helm upgrade. Went from Auto meter gauges to Livorsi's (Livorsi seems to be a better quality and waaaaaaay more options plus custom graphic options). Installed Garmin that will read speed, has depth gauge and GPS. Doing an Issotta wheel and swapped out Gaffrig / Livorsi shifter throttles for Lathum shifters, throttles. Getting rid of the stupid wedge thing on the dash and installing the 3D / heads up drive & trim gauges.

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Let see the helm as it is and I will give you some pointers..

A lot of guys like the Isotta style steering wheels.. maybe it’s the old school in me but I prefer impy style billet wheels. Possibly a helm extension

Livorsi makes The gauges you want but auto meter makes nice sets as well. Personally I’d go with Livorsi because you can update tab / trim gauges etc to the new styles..


show us some pics! How crazy ya want to go?

Hi Dave, Here is the helm photos.

Faria white gauges with black indicators. White Gaffrig offshore controls. Basic switch panel and the trim tabs are just fat knobs.

Dont want to go too crazy but would like to make it look a bit better, if possible.

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I realize it might be more than you are looking to do but...

If I was going to redo my dash (which I keep thinking about) I would go all the way and use vessel view or other panel screens. If I’m updating I might as well go all the way even though it will require a little glass work to be done.

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Yeah that set up is pimp but a little out of reach for a boat like mine. Looks killer though!
 

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I'm nearly done with my helm upgrade. Went from Auto meter gauges to Livorsi's (Livorsi seems to be a better quality and waaaaaaay more options plus custom graphic options). Installed Garmin that will read speed, has depth gauge and GPS. Doing an Issotta wheel and swapped out Gaffrig / Livorsi shifter throttles for Lathum shifters, throttles. Getting rid of the stupid wedge thing on the dash and installing the 3D / heads up drive & trim gauges.

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Aren't you supposed to do this during the winter months so you can use the boat in the summer?
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It's gonna be nice and I'm sure it'll be worth the wait.
 

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Following! I see a replacement in my future!
 

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I will second gking with Livorsi if you have that option.

Just curious but does Faria still make gauges?
 

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Hi Dave, Here is the helm photos.

Faria white gauges with black indicators. White Gaffrig offshore controls. Basic switch panel and the trim tabs are just fat knobs.

Dont want to go too crazy but would like to make it look a bit better, if possible.
I would personally re-imagine the whole dash. Bring the tach and the speedo up and to the outside of the existing gauges and move the switch panel over to the starboard gunnal by the throttles. Then, depnding on colors of your boat, I'd go carbon fiber faces (choose color), chrome rings and choose the best color that matches your boat bezzle. I'd go with some of those cool Hardin or Livorsi Marine shifter/throttle or something like that style (theres a few out there). And like I already stated, I like the rich look of the Isotta wheel. But there's others out there. Eddie Marine actually makes a very nice color and chrome 3 spoke wheel (we had one on our Top Gun) for under $200.

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I would personally re-imagine the whole dash. Bring the tach and the speedo up and to the outside of the existing gauges and move the switch panel over to the starboard gunnal by the throttles. Then, depnding on colors of your boat, I'd go carbon fiber faces (choose color), chrome rings and choose the best color that matches your boat bezzle. I'd go with some of those cool Hardin or Livorsi Marine shifter/throttle or something like that style (theres a few out there). And like I already stated, I like the rich look of the Isotta wheel. But there's others out there. Eddie Marine actually makes a very nice color and chrome 3 spoke wheel (we had one on our Top Gun) for under $200.

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Is plugging up the holes for the old tach locations a laborious/expensive endeavor?
 

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Aren't you supposed to do this during the winter months so you can use the boat in the summer?
😁
It's gonna be nice and I'm sure it'll be worth the wait.
Well, I dropped it off last winter, does that count!? List snowballed. Went from fix a bunch of little things and nick nacks that actually needed to be addressed to basically rebuilding the freakin' boat LOL 🤦‍♂️ It'll be worth the wait when it's done and we're approaching the finish line very soon. Off to painters shortly.
 

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I have tackle this project on a few of my boats. Took about three hours on each one. Well worth doing. Take a lot of pics behind the helm and draw a wiring diagram. If you need any help PM me.
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Hi Dave, Here is the helm photos.

Faria white gauges with black indicators. White Gaffrig offshore controls. Basic switch panel and the trim tabs are just fat knobs.

Dont want to go too crazy but would like to make it look a bit better, if possible.
Let me know if you’re gonna sell that steering wheel...I’m in need of one just like that.
 

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Is plugging up the holes for the old tach locations a laborious/expensive endeavor?

So you have two options. Strip the dash out and have a fiberglass shop / guy plug the holes. Or you can custom make a nice carbon fiber or other material face cover to go over the whole dash. Picture the photo of my after dash. That piece of carbon fiber was custom cut to fit the area and I covered the existing holes including the trim gauges to the right if you look close. I think that would be the cheaper option and easier frankly. And I think it would look pretty slick.
 

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I have tackle this project on a few of my boats. Took about three hours on each one. Well worth doing. Take a lot of pics behind the helm and draw a wiring diagram. If you need any help PM me.
Damn! Nice work!!! The little things make a huge difference.
 

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Well, I dropped it off last winter, does that count!? List snowballed. Went from fix a bunch of little things and nick nacks that actually needed to be addressed to basically rebuilding the freakin' boat LOL 🤦‍♂️ It'll be worth the wait when it's done and we're approaching the finish line very soon. Off to painters shortly.
LOL.

Painter???
 

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LOL.

Painter???
Re-paint the faded graphics on the deck (they were oxidizing through) and touch up the dock rash on the sides. They already buffed it and it came out pretty good. So just some touch ups needed.

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Sorry for the hijack. 😬
 

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When I did my Baker, you can certainly budget about 1100-1200 bucks for Autometers if you get a GPS speedo and all the normal gauges. It adds up quick!

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man that looks great! I've been putting this off for a while, but this is on my winter task list for sure.
 

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man that looks great! I've been putting this off for a while, but this is on my winter task list for sure.
Thanks Brotha. Its painful when you order them, not gonna lie! But once done its great cause thats what you see all the time in the boat. LOL....Also ordered mine thru CP Performance. Great company. Takes about 3-4 weeks to get them made special with the blue bezels or whatever choice you choose back at Autometer. Worth it in the long run!
 

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Beade makes a decent gauge for the price. I wouldn't replace with Faria. I just had to replace one of my Auto Meters and was sad to see they are now almost all plastic where they used to be a metal bucket. If I have to replace, I'm going Lavorsi next time.
 

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Somewhere in my boxes of stuff I have a complete set of Autometer gauges ready to go for a single engine stern drive. I’d sell them for 1/2 the cost of new.
 

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Hi Dave, Here is the helm photos.

Faria white gauges with black indicators. White Gaffrig offshore controls. Basic switch panel and the trim tabs are just fat knobs.

Dont want to go too crazy but would like to make it look a bit better, if possible.

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I have to find them but I have a complete set of silver faced auto meters I’d sell ya for 650.00.. They were 1200 new.
 

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Hi Dave, Here is the helm photos.

Faria white gauges with black indicators. White Gaffrig offshore controls. Basic switch panel and the trim tabs are just fat knobs.

Dont want to go too crazy but would like to make it look a bit better, if possible.

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I would think to relocate the MPH and RPM gauge. Doesn't seem like you can see them very well.
 

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Hi Dave, Here is the helm photos.

Faria white gauges with black indicators. White Gaffrig offshore controls. Basic switch panel and the trim tabs are just fat knobs.

Dont want to go too crazy but would like to make it look a bit better, if possible.

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What about something like these. Still Farias (Kronos series) but a bit more updated. The set is about $300

I also took apart and painted my offshore controls with some merc racing blue. Also always an option and very affordable if you do it yourself

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I have to find them but I have a complete set of silver faced auto meters I’d sell ya for 650.00.. They were 1200 new.
can you send some photos? that is very interesting.

Thank!
 

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I would think to relocate the MPH and RPM gauge. Doesn't seem like you can see them very well.
I can't. that is a good idea and then move the switch panel over to the side where the off shore controls are.
 

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So you have two options. Strip the dash out and have a fiberglass shop / guy plug the holes. Or you can custom make a nice carbon fiber or other material face cover to go over the whole dash. Picture the photo of my after dash. That piece of carbon fiber was custom cut to fit the area and I covered the existing holes including the trim gauges to the right if you look close. I think that would be the cheaper option and easier frankly. And I think it would look pretty slick.
How did you trim around the carbon fiber to make it look seamless? Have any other photos of that program?
 

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Beade makes a decent gauge for the price. I wouldn't replace with Faria. I just had to replace one of my Auto Meters and was sad to see they are now almost all plastic where they used to be a metal bucket. If I have to replace, I'm going Lavorsi next time.
Faira = Beede. Same company.

 

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Barrett in Havasu is doing the work and had someone local in Havasu cut the carbon fiber and then polish the edges. I think you could find a place to do the same and do a plate that covered the whole dash area, cut out new locations for all gauges (I also think once you move the larger gauges from bellow you could put your stereo head on the lower left portion too). I don't think it would be too difficult. I'll find out what the place is they used.

But a set up similar to the one here would be cool.

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Thanks Brotha. Its painful when you order them, not gonna lie! But once done its great cause thats what you see all the time in the boat. LOL....Also ordered mine thru CP Performance. Great company. Takes about 3-4 weeks to get them made special with the blue bezels or whatever choice you choose back at Autometer. Worth it in the long run!
I dont want to thread jack, but if you could post a pic of how you mounted the gps receiver that would be killer. I assume under the dash?
 

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I dont want to thread jack, but if you could post a pic of how you mounted the gps receiver that would be killer. I assume under the dash?
They are built into the gauges these days. No external receiver at all.
 

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Hard to beat a set of Platinum Chrome Autometers on top of Candy dark blue powder. I agree that the dash could benefit cosmetically from a completely different layout. If you're on a budget, a set of Autometers, a new carling style switch panel, a new billet control and a new wheel will go a long way. If you choose to go to a different layout, we can make you a full custom dash panel so you can avoid costly fiberglass repairs. Pics attached....
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Hard to beat a set of Platinum Chrome Autometers on top of Candy dark blue powder. I agree that the dash could benefit cosmetically from a completely different layout. If you're on a budget, a set of Autometers, a new carling style switch panel, a new billet control and a new wheel will go a long way. If you choose to go to a different layout, we can make you a full custom dash panel so you can avoid costly fiberglass repairs. Pics attached....
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Oh snap!! Looking good!

Can you rush my heads up trim and drive gauges for Barrett? 😉😁👍
 

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no shit? i thought the autometers that he posted had to have one of those little pucks.
I can't say that I see a whole lot of auto meters around here
Autometer GPS speedos have to use an antenna - The new ones can mount under the dash. The Autometer gauges do not have the antenna integrated into the gauge.
Sorry, Livorsi gauges have them built in now
 

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Replaced mine earlier this year. Steering wheel
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The old gauge set is free to anyone that could use them.
 

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I will take you up on that. I have a 94 formula and they have the flush mount guages like cobalt uses, Im starting have some discoloration and want to replace with something that is semi period correct

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Sounds good to me. I’m in Victorville. They are boxed up and sitting on the shelf.
 

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I dont want to thread jack, but if you could post a pic of how you mounted the gps receiver that would be killer. I assume under the dash?
I have a teleflex GPS speedo that uses the little square receiver...I simply added a small piece of aluminum angle to one of the mounting studs on the back of the garage and stuck the receiver to that. Works very well.
 
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