Used Tesla prices?

[whiteworks]

Was flipping through the radio today and caught a bit about used Tesla prices tanking. Peaked my curiosity as I do enjoy keeping a disposable luxury vehicle around to beat on.

That being said I have been thinking about the EV stuff as it’s more like an appliance, it either works or it doesn’t and there isn’t a lot of systems to maintain for it to be operational. These used teslas are now hitting the disposable car price points, granted we’re in new territory sort of as they have not aged out yet to where you call the charity haul off company’s and take the write off, but I think they may be getting close to that point.

So what’s the year, mileage, and model sweet spot on these things? I’m seeing cars with 50k miles that are a few years old for sub $20k. Don’t know shit about these things.

 

[wishiknew]

weld a ladder rack on to them and turn them into beater work trucks

 

[whiteworks]

weld a ladder rack on to them and turn them into beater work trucks

Was sorta thinking about buying one for parts and building an EV rock crawler out of it.

 

[wishiknew]

Was sorta thinking about buying one for parts and building an EV rock crawler out of it.

LOL King of hammers EV

 

[H20 Toie]

Few of my friends have them plus i did have them as company cars for couple people, should be good for 100k with no issues, even after that they seem to hold up well, super cold temps are not their friend but not something you need to worry out west
insurance is more than a real car,
Only real maintenance is tires, brakes last forever,
Not sure the years but stay away from the first year production of the different models,

 

[Orange Juice]

Was flipping through the radio today and caught a bit about used Tesla prices tanking. Peaked my curiosity as I do enjoy keeping a disposable luxury vehicle around to beat on.

That being said I have been thinking about the EV stuff as it’s more like an appliance, it either works or it doesn’t and there isn’t a lot of systems to maintain for it to be operational. These used teslas are now hitting the disposable car price points, granted we’re in new territory sort of as they have not aged out yet to where you call the charity haul off company’s and take the write off, but I think they may be getting close to that point.

So what’s the year, mileage, and model sweet spot on these things? I’m seeing cars with 50k miles that are a few years old for sub $20k. Don’t know shit about these things.

Would you buy a used 3 year old iPhone

 

[Angler]

Would you buy a used 3 year old iPhone

I wouldn't ever buy an iphone.

 

[TPC]

Late Model 3's 2WD have the LFP batteries that are the most charging versatile and last the longest. Charge them all you want at any state of charge to any state of charge.
If a used sacrificial car is what you want start looking there.

If you want a used, worlds fastest production car, the Model S power was restricted by the brake capability.
As brakes got better over the years, Tesla increased the power and speed. 0-60 in a hiccup is fun.

There are clean Tesla's out there.
Wife worked with non-smoking nurses that garaged them at home and garaged at work and they are still showroom like condition when they turned them in.

 

[TPC]

Most newer EV's have heat pump cooling and heating.
In addition to heating and cooling the cabin, it transfers the heat of the motors and electronics to the batteries to condition them for charging in cold weather.

Problem was that feature was only activated if the driver put in coordinates to the next charging station in the route planner,,, and no one knew that.
Screwball for sure and bad publicity as a result. Real bad.

Now many EV's have a "Condition batteries if needed " ICON or button so the driver can activate the battery pre-conditioning feature if needed 15 minutes before charging.

Teslas charge good, pretty quick but not the fast charging monsters like Porsches or Kias but still pretty good.

Tesla software was considered a decade ahead of the rest, but now it's considered two decades ahead.
Elon is on his game.

VW just inked a near $6 Billion Dollar contract with Rivian mostly for software technology.

 

[ChumpChange]

disposable luxury vehicle

Luxury?

 

[CLdrinker]

Gay

 

[Flatsix66]

Trump says buy a Tesla. It's the new trigger for the left.

 

[Riverbound]

We have had out Y performance for a few years now. And outside of longer trips it’s hands down the best and fastest car I’ve ever driven.

My wife loves it because every day she comes out to a “full tank” since we have it charge overnight.

The only real maintenance is tires they eat tires due to regen braking and instant torque. We put rear tires on once a year.

It’s funny to see all the hated spot and they have never had or driven one.

It will hand down out accelerate anything out there and I’ve hurt many feelings in my wife’s daily. lol.

We take her car 99% of the time if we are running around town.

 

[EmpirE231]

Was flipping through the radio today and caught a bit about used Tesla prices tanking. Peaked my curiosity as I do enjoy keeping a disposable luxury vehicle around to beat on.

That being said I have been thinking about the EV stuff as it’s more like an appliance, it either works or it doesn’t and there isn’t a lot of systems to maintain for it to be operational. These used teslas are now hitting the disposable car price points, granted we’re in new territory sort of as they have not aged out yet to where you call the charity haul off company’s and take the write off, but I think they may be getting close to that point.

So what’s the year, mileage, and model sweet spot on these things? I’m seeing cars with 50k miles that are a few years old for sub $20k. Don’t know shit about these things.

Do yourself a favor and pop into a Tesla store and drive one for 10-15 minutes. You’ll be surprised by how much you end up liking these things.

 

[coolchange]

When a friend of mine bought one, we were given him a little bit of grief. He said laugh all you want, but my wife’s daily driver will out 60 foot my race car.

 

[DrunkenSailor]

My brothers 3 performance has roller coaster ride acceleration. Stupid fast with no noise. The most impressive thing about his car is the level of grip.

 

[BHC Vic]

Few of my friends have them plus i did have them as company cars for couple people, should be good for 100k with no issues, even after that they seem to hold up well, super cold temps are not their friend but not something you need to worry out west
insurance is more than a real car,
Only real maintenance is tires, brakes last forever,
Not sure the years but stay away from the first year production of the different models,

My Chevy volt doesn’t like cold either. I will get engine propulsion limited message. Once it’s want I turn it off and back on and it’s fine but I don’t think batteries like cold

 

[SJP]

So - I bought my wife a new Model S in 2015 (P85DL) and added the ludicrous software upgrade. Ceramic coated it, always garaged, always plugged in and set to 80% charge. Only required tires and fixing the rim rash my wife would occasionally do (I have had to fix all four) lol. The car has 85K and the battery is perfect.

So I had put $100 down on the cybertruck the day it released. I had completely forgotten about it and figured maybe I was way back but my number got called last winter. I did not need the truck but my wife asked if she could take the build. Sure thing, she liked it and wanted a truck. I was going to private party sell or trade in her S. I was floored when I saw the market at 15 to 20K private party. Figured cheaper to keep and drive this. I have two boys driving age.

I drive the P85DL as a daily. It is awesome, looks nice, performs well, I have solar on my house. I still have lifetime free super charging. My 2023 raptor sill has low miles 10K and stays in my hangar. I use when I need it. Perfect program. I was looking at Tesla preowned inventory. I would buy CPO. End of the day she is happy and I now have a great daily driver.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

Wouldn't mind finding a nice used Model X, they aren't as cheap as the used Model 3 and early year Model S on the used market.

 

[TimeBandit]

This place has a ton of used Teslas if you want to go kick the tires maybe pick their brain:

Plug In Auto - Used Hybrid & Electric Cars in West Covina CA

Plug In Auto offers a variety of Hybrid and Electric quality used cars and SUVs for sale in West Covina and Costa Mesa, CA. Call us for details or view our online showroom!

www.pluginauto.com

 

[attitude]

This place has a ton of used Teslas if you want to go kick the tires maybe pick their brain:

Plug In Auto - Used Hybrid & Electric Cars in West Covina CA

Plug In Auto offers a variety of Hybrid and Electric quality used cars and SUVs for sale in West Covina and Costa Mesa, CA. Call us for details or view our online showroom!

www.pluginauto.com

No wonder every commuter has one, they are cheaper than a Corolla lol. A model 3 Long Range lease is $250 a month.

 

[Flatsix66]

My 2019 Model 3 Performance just hit 100k miles. I drive 120 miles round trip commute, I just plug it in at home and charge overnight. The battery capacity is going down, it used to charge up to 280 miles (at 90%) and now it is only 235 miles but still more than I need. It is still tight and squeak free, still hauls ass. The only maintenance is new tires every 25k or so, the cabin air filters will smell like old gym socks so replace them every summer, the low voltage battery needed replacement last year and Tesla service came to my house to replace for $120. Other than that it has probably been the best car I've ever had. I plan to drive it till I retire in a few years or just drive into the ground...whichever comes first.

 

[Tank]

This one could be bought for a good price I presume. Only under sea water for about an hour. Should be fine.

This poor dude, was pulling his jet skis out and hit the reverse button instead of the D button. Gave it some throttle and went right into the water.

MSN

Yeah, that's a Cyber Sub in the pic.

 

[Jefftowz]

We are on Tesla #2. First was a Y, 37k miles only thing we did was a set of tires.

Now we have a Model 3 great car and the best car we could find for the money.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

My 2019 Model 3 Performance just hit 100k miles. I drive 120 miles round trip commute, I just plug it in at home and charge overnight. The battery capacity is going down, it used to charge up to 280 miles (at 90%) and now it is only 235 miles but still more than I need. It is still tight and squeak free, still hauls ass. The only maintenance is new tires every 25k or so, the cabin air filters will smell like old gym socks so replace them every summer, the low voltage battery needed replacement last year and Tesla service came to my house to replace for $120. Other than that it has probably been the best car I've ever had. I plan to drive it till I retire in a few years or just drive into the ground...whichever comes first.

My last set of tires went 45k miles, but I was a freak about rotating them. My range went down from the get go but is holding pretty steady at 277 miles now at almost 60k miles. I also had a dead low voltage battery that needed replacing, Tesla swapped it out, even when it was out of warranty, they have been so good to me.. Yeah, I also had the dirty gym sock smell with the cabin filter, lol. I've replaced the wiper blades and that's about it. My dual motor long range has really depreciated in value, but I've decided to just keep it and drive it into the ground as my commuter car. It still hauls ass and drives great...

 

[Richard.E]

I have 96k on my 2021 Model 3 LR. Lots of trouble free miles between OC and LA, and up to southern Utah which only requires one charging stop.

Tires are the only real downside which I think getting away from the Michelins is the move. And I put adjustable camber toe arms to fix the toe out condition from the factory. As well as rotating tires every 2500 miles.

My max range is about 305ish miles,
Car has been trouble free and it’s paid off.

The people that bought them the last few years are so upside down on them it’s sad.

After getting a flat tire on the 15 outside Baker without a spare, I now carry a spare rim and tire in the trunk with my impact and floor jack lol

 

[HNL2LHC]

With all this talk of these cars hauling ass why are they always in the fast lane going so slow?!?!?

 

[Bowtiepower00]

We had a model 3 LFP for just over a year and 30k miles. It was a good driving car- especially once we ditched the run flats for some PS4 all seasons. Even the “slow” version had plenty of power for regular driving.

Indicated range dropped from 272 miles to 260ish in that time, charging to 100% every night. Real world range in the summer was 100-150 miles with the AC on high, we tried to drive the back way to Sedona from Phoenix through Jerome and with the hills we had to detour through Prescott and charge on the way.

For an urban DD they are a great car- charging at home saves a bunch of time stopping for fuel every couple of days.

The operational costs are cheaper than a ICE vehicle- I think we spent about a grand in electricity in the time we had it. The only real maintenance is the gearbox oil, low voltage battery, and cabin filters- but they eat tires, we got 25k or so on the first set.

Insurance is outrageous and eats up most of the maintenance savings. Mechanical repairs are fairly easy to handle on your own or at an independent shop but if you need to take the car to Tesla for any reason there are countless stories of poor customer service, difficulty getting parts, and cars sitting waiting for repairs for weeks at a time and having comebacks for incomplete repairs. If you get into any kind of fender bender expect the car to be totaled.

The cars have some quirks- my wife finally had enough and traded back into a traditional SUV.

I wouldn’t want one for cross country driving but if I needed another DD for Phoenix/ SoCal I would buy another one.

We sold ours before all of the Elon hate started, but you definitely get some angry responses from other drivers- especially when you blow by them in traffic.

 

[brgrcru]

Was sorta thinking about buying one for parts and building an EV rock crawler out of it.

Now you have done it
Utv winning this year
A Tesla next year
Lol

 

[Dan Lorenze]

A smart guy would buy a used Tesla 3 or Y for commuting and have a bad ass truck for everything else. I would hate to daily drive a Raptor and put a shit ton of miles on it.

 

[whiteworks]

Test drove one a while back or I guess you could say it took me for a ride, I’m a fan.

 

[jetboatperformance]

My Brother came by last week in His new Tesla Plaid and asked me to go for a ride , I said not unless My hands were on the wheel ,the road past my shop Is straight and paved , I "flat footed" the beast just out of my driveway and was at 80 in an instant (He has seen 140), very impressive indeed BUT like my Doctor buddy says of them "the car has no soul"

 

[SJP]

A smart guy would buy a used Tesla 3 or Y for commuting and have a bad ass truck for everything else. I would hate to daily drive a Raptor and put a shit ton of miles on it.

That works really well. I have indoor parking for my Raptor and drive it when I need to.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

That works really well. I have indoor parking for my Raptor and drive it when I need to.

Same with me, I keep my Tremor (poor mans Raptor) detailed and covered while the Tesla commutes.

 

[Flatsix66]

Same with me, I keep my Tremor (poor mans Raptor) detailed and covered while the Tesla commutes.

Ditto. Tesla parks outside and the Tremor and Bronco get the garage.

 

[whiteworks]

I just want a zero hassle cheap thing that drives me around

While fast things are cool, I have some fast things already and rarely use them to go fast. I drove a plaid when they first came out, it was very quick but did exactly zero for me as it was a detached experience ending only in speed. I could take it or leave it, chances are good I’d use that feature a few times and then never really think about it again.

Now that autopilot feature, fuck yeah I’ll never drive myself again

 

[rivermobster]

We had a model 3 LFP for just over a year and 30k miles. It was a good driving car- especially once we ditched the run flats for some PS4 all seasons. Even the “slow” version had plenty of power for regular driving.

Indicated range dropped from 272 miles to 260ish in that time, charging to 100% every night. Real world range in the summer was 100-150 miles with the AC on high, we tried to drive the back way to Sedona from Phoenix through Jerome and with the hills we had to detour through Prescott and charge on the way.

For an urban DD they are a great car- charging at home saves a bunch of time stopping for fuel every couple of days.

The operational costs are cheaper than a ICE vehicle- I think we spent about a grand in electricity in the time we had it. The only real maintenance is the gearbox oil, low voltage battery, and cabin filters- but they eat tires, we got 25k or so on the first set.

Insurance is outrageous and eats up most of the maintenance savings. Mechanical repairs are fairly easy to handle on your own or at an independent shop but if you need to take the car to Tesla for any reason there are countless stories of poor customer service, difficulty getting parts, and cars sitting waiting for repairs for weeks at a time and having comebacks for incomplete repairs. If you get into any kind of fender bender expect the car to be totaled.

The cars have some quirks- my wife finally had enough and traded back into a traditional SUV.

I wouldn’t want one for cross country driving but if I needed another DD for Phoenix/ SoCal I would buy another one.

We sold ours before all of the Elon hate started, but you definitely get some angry responses from other drivers- especially when you blow by them in traffic.

Finally...

A Fully honest review.

With all this talk of these cars hauling ass why are they always in the fast lane going so slow?!?!?

Same reason the Prius drivers do the same thing. The Faster you go, the faster the battery depleats.

Passing those cars at 80, in the turbo diesel Mercedes SUV, getting 30 plus MPG, makes me smile every time.

Hell even my shit box F350 has a 500 mile range!

I still feel like the plug in hybrid cars are best.

 

[Bowtiepower00]

The autopilot is overrated, IMO. The standard autopilot (what Tesla calls cruise control) is unusable on the highway, phantom braking for shadows and not nearly as good as the offerings from most other manufacturers.

We didn’t spring for “enhanced autopilot” but it would be unlocked occasionally for free so we did use it- and it was terrifying, including driving over curbs while turning.

They can be useful for heavy stop and go traffic but they leave a large enough gap that cars will constantly be merging in front of you into your lane.

My wife works nights and likes a vehicle with some safety aids to help her on the drive home if she has had a long night and is drowsy- her Volvo will drive her home with the exception of taking highway exits. The VW Atlas she had a few years ago was decent at this too- much better than the Tesla. The Tesla did not provide nearly as much assistance when needed/ preferred.

I absolutely hated the driver assist on the Tesla- it will alert when no intervention is needed and let you drive off the road at other times. It was bad enough that I never used it- which means I couldn’t use cruise control while driving. That and the driver recognition was awful, it pairs to your phone, but driver one always has priority. So if I was sitting in the car and my wife’s phone came into range it would push me into the dash while it loaded her preferences into the system. Or sometimes it would randomly do it while we were driving together after I had paired my phone.

I will admit, that I am not a fan of driver assist and other features and prefer regular non-adaptive cruise control so I am a little biased, but from my experience the Tesla is awful in this regard.

Edit: one of my colleagues was an early adopter of the Model S with all of the gadgets including summon. One morning he summoned his car out of his garage but for some reason the garage door failed to open all of the way. The car backed through the garage door. Tesla is constantly updating their software so this may no longer be an issue, but it did happen to him- this was around 2019 so not when the car was first released.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

I didn't know about the insurance premium, so I just called up my agent and asked for a quote... . Insurance for an EV is equal to my 2 other cars combined. I mean, I don't have to change the oil once a year but jeezus...

 

[BabyRay]

I didn't know about the insurance premium, so I just called up my agent and asked for a quote... . Insurance for an EV is equal to my 2 other cars combined. I mean, I don't have to change the oil once a year but jeezus...

I wonder if that’s all EV’s, or just Tesla.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

I wonder if that’s all EV’s, or just Tesla.

I didn't get a quote on a Tesla.

 

[stonehenge]

Very interesting thread. I had no idea the insurance was so high and they ate tires faster than a 911.

I sat in the backseat of one on an uber pub crawl night, was comfy, but I felt gay as shit the entire time.

I do enjoy waving at them when they are lined up at the charging stations.



The no soul reference was spot on accurate, but hey you can go fast from 0-60, right?

 

[Cole Trickle]

I wonder if that’s all EV’s, or just Tesla.

All EV's cost more to insure. The 100k ones like the Plaid's ,lucid, rivian are alot++ more.

 

[Cole Trickle]

Very interesting thread. I had no idea the insurance was so high and they ate tires faster than a 911.

I sat in the backseat of one on an uber pub crawl night, was comfy, but I felt gay as shit the entire time.

I do enjoy waving at them when they are lined up at the charging stations.



The no soul reference was spot on accurate, but hey you can go fast from 0-60, right?

They are much more than 0-60 cars these days. Check out some reviews the new model 3 does alot of things well. The new Y will follow suit.

The new model 3 performance will run a 10.8 at 125+. Honestly i don't think there is a better value for a fun car right now with the $7500 rebate and .99% financing for 72 months. What else can you buy for 4k down and $650 a month that compares?

The Model S plaid runs low 9's at 150+ in the 1/4 in street trim. Other than the 250k lucid nothing comes close especially for sub 100k.

 

[TimeBandit]

I wonder if that’s all EV’s, or just Tesla.

My wife drives a VW ID4 ev (the costco cruiser) insurance is about the same as the Toyota it replaced. (Geico)

 

[Bigbore500r]

....
It will hand down out accelerate anything out there and I’ve hurt many feelings in my wife’s daily. lol.

We take her car 99% of the time if we are running around town.

Anything? C'mon now......

 

[Caydens Cat]

I get it, they have their place. The Mrs 100k Model S will blow the doors off my 911 manual…but has no soul. 9/10 my kids want to drive in dad‘s P-car vs mommy’s speed demon grocery getter.

and gas saving…. Not so much with the high SoCal electric rates. But the convenience of waking up to a “full” tank makes her day.

 

[lakemadness]

I test-drove a model Y before I decided to buy my Cayenne GTS. It was quick and fairly nice, super simple. But at the end, I couldn't pass up the sound of the GTS and its more speed than ya need. I also think the fit and finish of the Cayenne is light-years ahead of most other brands, certainly Tesla.

But I could have bought three Ys for the cost of the GTS...

 

[TheChandlerCompound]

Tesla Model X Plaid here; the thing has no soul but it's fast AF! It's just like a tool or an appliance, it simply provides transportation.

 

[Taboma]