Vaccine info

[boatdoc55]

I haven't had a flu shot since not being under my parents rule.

I have never had a flu shot much to my doctors dismay!! She say's I'm a rebellious SOB!! I'm sorry, I just like to go against the flow, ALWAYS have ALWAYS will!!

 

[Ziggy]

Thanks very much, if this really is an explanation of how it works even a dumb ass boat mechanic can understand it!!!!

I'd say a very good analogy.

 

[530RL]

That goes both ways. Travel nor anything else should be restricted because people elect to not take it. Absolutely no “vaccination cards” for any reason

The more people that refuse it, the sooner I can get it. Given all the vaccines I have previously received that have been required by dozens of foreign countries for a visa, let alone the stuff I drank at college parties, one more vaccine isn’t going to make a bit of difference.

Shove a Pfizer in one arm and a Moderna in the other. Let’s get business back to normal.

With respect to restrictions, it should go both ways. If it’s a private business it should be their choice on who they serve just as it should equally be the individuals choice to vaccinate or not. If that business including an airline does not want to serve or treat those who don’t want to get a vaccine, that is their right in America.

 

[wzuber]

Truth to this.
I asked if a vaccinated person contracts the virus will they still test positive. Yes but symptoms would be next to non-existent. Essentially, it keeps it from attaching to your bodies proteins.
It doesn't prevent the disease from spreading. They are finding it does not survive on surfaces very long like the common cold.

It's a ...................VIROUS

IT'S NOT A .........DISEASE

I say professional athletes have no business being among the first in line.

I say we use those useless fuks as Guinea pigs....haha

 

[Ziggy]

It's a ...................VIROUS

IT'S NOT A .........DISEASE

I say we use those useless fuks as Guinea pigs....haha

I do not disagree, it was just the way I phrased the thought.
However, I promise I won't go all Froggy style on your spelling.

 

[charred1]

Truth to this.
I asked if a vaccinated person contracts the virus will they still test positive. Yes but symptoms would be next to non-existent. Essentially, it keeps it from attaching to your bodies proteins.
It doesn't prevent the disease from spreading. They are finding it does not survive on surfaces very long like the common cold.

Through my work (Fire) and my wife’s work (PD), we personally know well over 150 people that have tested positive (me included) and most everyone had nonexistent symptoms. So let me get a vaccine that makes symptoms nonexistent for a virus that many already have nonexistent symptoms to anyways. Silly times and silly vaccines, but I encourage all those that want to get it, please get it, if it gives you peace of mind.

 

[Andy B.]

The more people that refuse it, the sooner I can get it. Given all the vaccines I have previously received that have been required by dozens of foreign countries for a visa, let alone the stuff I drank at college parties, one more vaccine isn’t going to make a bit of difference.

Shove a Pfizer in one arm and a Moderna in the other. Let’s get business back to normal.

With respect to restrictions, it should go both ways. If it’s a private business it should be their choice on who they serve just as it should equally be the individuals choice to vaccinate or not. If that business including an airline does not want to serve or treat those who don’t want to get a vaccine, that is their right in America.

Again the problem with that is that its fear driven IMO but I agree every business has a right. With all the traveling you do you probably have a rock star immune system!

I'll add if businesses refuse to serve someone say restaurant or service type business they put themselves out of business! You want people to carry a card Hitler ask how well that worked of for the Jews??!!!! I see deep down you're a socialist at heart!!

 

[spectra3279]

Altering genetics, I don't see any kind of a good outcome with that.

I see zombie apocalypse, I see mutated babies as in the hills have eyes, i see mutations happen from in the vaccinated.

Don't fuck around with shit thats getting injected into people

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[spectra3279]

There will be those that decide not to take it, and those that do.
If there is a vaccine available, and people choose not to take it, it is their right. If people that don't take it and get sick, the economy and businesses should be able to remain open, business as usual regardless of the numbers. Those that chose to take it, should not suffer because of those that do not.

Goes both ways for when you start growing lizard scales for taking the vaccine.

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[HBCraig]

Looking good?? fuck can't remember the line from the beach scene at the end Trading Places.

Looking good Billy Ray...feeling good Lewis

 

[spectra3279]

They're not altering your DNA, they're introducing something in to your body for the virus to "eat" rather than your body itself. Essentially the equivalent of a bowl of plastic fruit on your kitchen counter to keep people out of your real fruit in the fridge.

I'm still not getting it.

Its a synthetic, genetically altered protein injected into your body. What happens when that protein either gets altered again, or your body somehow starts adapting to that protein?

Nobody knows. Nobody knows what long term effects this will have. What happens to an unborn baby that gets this from the mother? What happens to a child that is still growing and dependent on proteins?

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[spectra3279]

It’s does not alter your DNA. It allows your immune system to develop a plan of attack should the real thing come along. This is far safer than any vaccine you got as a kid.

Sorry, but that can't be completely ruled out.

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[530RL]

It's a ...................VIROUS

IT'S NOT A .........DISEASE

I say we use those useless fuks as Guinea pigs....haha

Isn’t COVID short for Corona Virus Disease?

 

[RiverDave]

So what does the vaccine do if it doesn’t do anything it’s supposed to to?

 

[RiverDave]

You first bud......I'll gladly wait.....tilll I die of natural causes (I consider a boat racing accident a natural cause of death haha) before I ever die of allowing some Pharmacuitical co to ALTER the very ESSENCE (of who we are as humans) my DNA.

RNA not DNA

 

[Water Romper]

Looking good?? fuck can't remember the line from the beach scene at the end Trading Places.

I think it was "Mortimer, we're back"

 

[RiverDave]

The more people that refuse it, the sooner I can get it. Given all the vaccines I have previously received that have been required by dozens of foreign countries for a visa, let alone the stuff I drank at college parties, one more vaccine isn’t going to make a bit of difference.

Shove a Pfizer in one arm and a Moderna in the other. Let’s get business back to normal.

With respect to restrictions, it should go both ways. If it’s a private business it should be their choice on who they serve just as it should equally be the individuals choice to vaccinate or not. If that business including an airline does not want to serve or treat those who don’t want to get a vaccine, that is their right in America.

Seems logical, to a point.. Is a business allowed to refuse someone service under any circumstance? And where is that threshold?
Because I remember a baker being forced to bake a cake..

Your smart enough to know the road of what I’m saying.. it’s isn’t as black and white as your saying.

 

[RiverDave]

The more people that refuse it, the sooner I can get it. Given all the vaccines I have previously received that have been required by dozens of foreign countries for a visa, let alone the stuff I drank at college parties, one more vaccine isn’t going to make a bit of difference.

Shove a Pfizer in one arm and a Moderna in the other. Let’s get business back to normal.

With respect to restrictions, it should go both ways. If it’s a private business it should be their choice on who they serve just as it should equally be the individuals choice to vaccinate or not. If that business including an airline does not want to serve or treat those who don’t want to get a vaccine, that is their right in America.

Im not sure why anyone would want it after the surgeon generals words here in this thread..

• According to the Surgeon General, the vaccine doesn't stop transmission of Covid 19. It's more like a drug to treat the symptoms. It's not actually stopping the transmission of Covid 19!
• "Be careful at least into the 2nd quarter of 2021"
• It's "not a prevention of infections - so we don't know yet whether they will prevent infection - they could prevent you from being in the hospital and ultimately passing from this virus"
• "We're going to continue to need to wear our masks, wash our hands, and watch our distance as we slowly start to reopen with the assistance of these great vaccines"
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[MK1MOD0]

Seriously, what’s the point. the rona has a survival rate of over 99%. Sooo , the vaccine doesn’t stop the transmission, nor will the government stop the repression of it’s citizens if we do vaccinate. So why does the government want to vaccinate us so badly? That, is the real question...

 

[bluebleeder]

You know that kid down the street that died from polio? No, no you don't. Because there is a vaccine for that....

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[BTR]

Sorry, but that can't be completely ruled out.

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How can it not? There is no radiation in the vaccine and they are not drawing out your DNA, altering it and then injecting it back in. Impossible.

 

[2Driver]

The infamous RDP Medical Review Board speaks again. Eligibility requirements - Only one, just bring your very strong opinion. No experience, training, knowledge or certification required, whatsoever. Regardless of the medical topic.

But that’s the entertainment value, otherwise we’d all be over on
AMAjournal.com

 

[Andy B.]

Seriously, what’s the point. the rona has a survival rate of over 99%. Sooo , the vaccine doesn’t stop the transmission, nor will the government stop the repression of it’s citizens if we do vaccinate. So why does the government want to vaccinate us so badly? That, is the real question...

Exactly this!!!!!!

 

[Ziggy]

Im not sure why anyone would want it after the surgeon generals words here in this thread..

• According to the Surgeon General, the vaccine doesn't stop transmission of Covid 19. It's more like a drug to treat the symptoms. It's not actually stopping the transmission of Covid 19!
• "Be careful at least into the 2nd quarter of 2021"
• It's "not a prevention of infections - so we don't know yet whether they will prevent infection - they could prevent you from being in the hospital and ultimately passing from this virus"
• "We're going to continue to need to wear our masks, wash our hands, and watch our distance as we slowly start to reopen with the assistance of these great vaccines"

The point of it is it prevents you having symptoms of the virus and becoming critically ill. It does not prevent you from possibly transmitting the virus if/when you are carrying it. That's how I'm understanding it.
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[Shlbyntro]

You know that kid down the street that died from polio? No, no you don't. Because there is a vaccine for that....

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I think the reason is that was a real epidemic, and it was a real vaccine that stopped the transmission. Its also important to note that the first vaccine gave children polio and many died from the vaccine. The second and first successful vaccine was the first instance of a vaccine that uses a dead virus as opposed to a weakened one was ever used and widely successful. Before that, it was considered to be impossible. It was truly the medical inovation of the time that changed the world.

Also, the scientist who invented that vaccine and the scientist who invented the second "live virus" vaccine ( the successful one not the one that killed kids) both refused to ever receive a single dollar for their vaccines, they gave them away to the world.

Does anyone think Phizer or Moderna will do that? BTW, the way this new vaccine is described. It will not teach your body how to fight the virus, It merely acts as a buffer, and will require annual injections just like the flu shot. Easier and faster to develop, and albeit safer. But no lasting benefits. Its an everlasting money train

 

[MK1MOD0]

You know that kid down the street that died from polio? No, no you don't. Because there is a vaccine for that....

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The point of it is it prevents you having symptoms of the virus and becoming critically ill. It does not prevent you from possibly transmitting the virus if/when you are carrying it. That's how I'm understanding it.
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With A less than 1% death rate. ( by mostly the old and the ill ). It simply isn’t needed for almost everyone else.

 

[MK1MOD0]

You know that kid down the street that died from polio? No, no you don't. Because there is a vaccine for that....

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Your comparing Polio which had a death rate of approximately 15% which mostly targeted the young, and healthy, with Covid that has a death rate of less than 1%, that mostly targets the old and sick. Yea, that’s a poor comparison.

 

[bluebleeder]

I think the reason is that was a real epidemic, and it was a real vaccine that stopped the transmission. Its also important to note that the first vaccine gave children polio and many died from the vaccine. The second and first successful vaccine was the first instance of a vaccine that uses a dead virus as opposed to a weakened one was ever used and widely successful. Before that, it was considered to be impossible. It was truly the medical inovation of the time that changed the world.

Also, the scientist who invented that vaccine and the scientist who invented the second "live virus" vaccine ( the successful one not the one that killed kids) both refused to ever receive a single dollar for their vaccines, they gave them away to the world.

Does anyone think Phizer or Moderna will do that? BTW, the way this new vaccine is described. It will not teach your body how to fight the virus, It merely acts as a buffer, and will require annual injections just like the flu shot. Easier and faster to develop, and albeit safer. But no lasting benefits. Its an everlasting money train

Just because the inventors of the polio vaccine did not make money on their inventions does not mean it is not monetized. Just look who makes it today.

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[USMC2010]

I had to get the flu shots for 20 years I was active duty. I haven't had one in over 10 years yet I am not an anti-vaccer. I will not be getting this one, not because it's a new thing but because but doesn't do shit on the long run. I have a compromised system as I have had pneumonia many times and was spooked by covid initially, now I'm over it. If you knew what my last year has been and my potential exposure you would be too. Get the shot if it makes you feel good.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Trust the guberment....they know whats good for ya....bwahahahahahahahhahajajaaaaaa

 

[bluebleeder]

Your comparing Polio which had a death rate of approximately 15% which mostly targeted the young, and healthy, with Covid that has a death rate of less than 1%, that mostly targets the old and sick. Yea, that’s a poor comparison.

Ok how about measles, mumps, rubella? Similar death rates as Covid. Are you vaccinated for those?

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[Singleton]

Btw guys, I posted this as informational data from what I obviously consider very reliable and unbias source.
No way am I trying to sway opinion one way or the other, that's everyones choice to do as you wish.
Merry Christmas all y'all !

please keep posting the data. I am only trusting data from those with family members working at hospitals.

 

[MK1MOD0]

I had to get the flu shots for 20 years I was active duty. I haven't had one in over 10 years yet I am not an anti-vaccer. I will not be getting this one, not because it's a new thing but because but doesn't do shit on the long run. I have a compromised system as I have had pneumonia many times and was spooked by covid initially, now I'm over it. If you knew what my last year has been and my potential exposure you would be too. Get the shot if it makes you feel good.

I‘m right there with ya. Some vaccines are really needed. And some are not. For MOST people, the COVID is not. But.... if one was in a high risk category, it would be prudent to get it.

 

[Singleton]

As I read all this my summary is = the new vaccine is just just the FLU shot. Does not keep you from getting sick, but could keep you out of the morgue.

To be an ass - it allows the government to continue restrictions, force folks to wear masks and keep people home. Just wait until governors says we can’t open until 90% of citizens get vaccine. Pure BS. Wonder if the liberal left none vaccine folks will get this one

 

[MK1MOD0]

Ok how about measles, mumps, rubella? Similar death rates as Covid. Are you vaccinated for those?

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We are NOT talking about those diseases. So let’s stick to COVID. COVID is not deadly to almost EVERY person it infects. So, NO. I will not get the vaccine. Just like the flu. If one is in a high risk category, they should get the vaccine. Otherwise, no. And NO ONE should force it upon me. And, just for you, I do believe vaccines are appropriate, when needed.

 

[JDKRXW]

The more people that refuse it, the sooner I can get it. Given all the vaccines I have previously received that have been required by dozens of foreign countries for a visa, let alone the stuff I drank at college parties, one more vaccine isn’t going to make a bit of difference.

Shove a Pfizer in one arm and a Moderna in the other. Let’s get business back to normal.

With respect to restrictions, it should go both ways. If it’s a private business it should be their choice on who they serve just as it should equally be the individuals choice to vaccinate or not. If that business including an airline does not want to serve or treat those who don’t want to get a vaccine, that is their right in America.

It goes both ways;
What about that same airline's long term employees that don't want to get the vaccine.
Would they be allowed to fire all of them?

 

[HBCraig]

I think it was "Mortimer, we're back"

That was in Coming to America.

 

[HBCraig]

We are NOT talking about those diseases. So let’s stick to COVID. COVID is not deadly to almost EVERY person it infects. So, NO. I will not get the vaccine. Just like the flu. If one is in a high risk category, they should get the vaccine. Otherwise, no. And NO ONE should force it upon me. And, just for you, I do believe vaccines are appropriate, when needed.

I believe the mortality rate is .0001. Honestly. Matbe somebody from the RDP lab can confirm

 

[bluebleeder]

We are NOT talking about those diseases. So let’s stick to COVID. COVID is not deadly to almost EVERY person it infects. So, NO. I will not get the vaccine. Just like the flu. If one is in a high risk category, they should get the vaccine. Otherwise, no. And NO ONE should force it upon me. And, just for you, I do believe vaccines are appropriate, when needed.

This is about vaccines just as it's much about Covid. Maybe we are not talking about those disease because there is a vaccine for them?

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[PlanB]

please keep posting the data. I am only trusting data from those with family members working at hospitals.

My buddy is a Nurse at a local hospital, and he does not want the vaccine. Several of the docs he works with have the same feelings, and don't think the trial period was long enough to be able to say these vaccines are safe.

I was at a party at this guys house last Saturday, and I have felt sick since Monday. I am not sure if it's COVID, but there were hospital workers and first responders at this party so the exposure risk was high. The symptoms have been very light. If I was not lazy I would go get tested. If it is COVID, I have had colds that were worse.

 

[MK1MOD0]

This is about vaccines just as it's much about Covid. Maybe we are not talking about those disease because there is a vaccine for them?

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No, your wrong. You keep bring up diseases that were CURED YEARS ago. Do you understand why that is? It’s simple.... those diseases do not mutate at the rate INFLUENZA or COVID does. This vaccine will not wipe out COVID. There is not a single written statement that says , this vaccine will CURE Covid. It WILL NOT CURE COVID.
Not even close. And they know it won’t. You are not getting that fact. As of right now, there are 8 separate mutations of the original COVID19 from last year. And it will continue to do so. And just like ALL the other COVID viruses out there, we will become immune, or mostly so. I hope you can see what I’m talking about. We are not talking about a cure, like polio or mumps ect. This is only to reduce the sickness, and most no not need it.

 

[bluebleeder]

No, your wrong. You keep bring up diseases that were CURED YEARS ago. Do you understand why that is? It’s simple.... those diseases do not mutate at the rate INFLUENZA or COVID does. This vaccine will not wipe out COVID. There is not a single written statement that says , this vaccine will CURE Covid. It WILL NOT CURE COVID.
Not even close. And they know it won’t. You are not getting that fact. As of right now, there are 8 separate mutations of the original COVID19 from last year. And it will continue to do so. And just like ALL the other COVID viruses out there, we will become immune, or mostly so. I hope you can see what I’m talking about. We are not talking about a cure, like polio or mumps ect. This is only to reduce the sickness, and most no not need it.

You obviously don't know the difference between a cure and a vaccine.....

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[rivermobster]

I think it was "Mortimer, we're back"

That was when they found the wad of cash, not when they were on the beach.

 

[stephenkatsea]

There remains no CURE for polio to this day. The polio vaccine prevents you from getting the polio virus. Considerable difference between prevention and cure.

 

[Shlbyntro]

There remains no CURE for polio to this day. The polio vaccine prevents you from getting the polio virus. Considerable difference between prevention and cure.

I think the word he was looking for is "Irradicated" which it is except for a small handful of 3rd countries in Africa and South Central Asia of which WHO is working on.

 

[Cobalt232]

The more people that refuse it, the sooner I can get it. Given all the vaccines I have previously received that have been required by dozens of foreign countries for a visa, let alone the stuff I drank at college parties, one more vaccine isn’t going to make a bit of difference.

Shove a Pfizer in one arm and a Moderna in the other. Let’s get business back to normal.

With respect to restrictions, it should go both ways. If it’s a private business it should be their choice on who they serve just as it should equally be the individuals choice to vaccinate or not. If that business including an airline does not want to serve or treat those who don’t want to get a vaccine, that is their right in America.

You must really be going off the beaten path. For us, its just Yellow Fever, Malaria stuff and a one of the Hepatitis ones.

 

[just_floatin]

Testing for covid .

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1342376450670927872

 

[jet496]

My buddy is a Nurse at a local hospital, and he does not want the vaccine. Several of the docs he works with have the same feelings, and don't think the trial period was long enough to be able to say these vaccines are safe.

I was at a party at this guys house last Saturday, and I have felt sick since Monday. I am not sure if it's COVID, but there were hospital workers and first responders at this party so the exposure risk was high. The symptoms have been very light. If I was not lazy I would go get tested. If it is COVID, I have had colds that were worse.

I see no reason to get tested if I get sick. If I end up in the hospital I'm sure that's the first thing they'll do otherwise it's just another illness to me.

Some people are simply obsessed with getting tested. I know people that just keep going because they knew someone who had it. WTF

 

[Singleton]

My buddy is a Nurse at a local hospital, and he does not want the vaccine. Several of the docs he works with have the same feelings, and don't think the trial period was long enough to be able to say these vaccines are safe.

I was at a party at this guys house last Saturday, and I have felt sick since Monday. I am not sure if it's COVID, but there were hospital workers and first responders at this party so the exposure risk was high. The symptoms have been very light. If I was not lazy I would go get tested. If it is COVID, I have had colds that were worse.

My wife and I are both in CA phase 3 - target Aug 2021. By then I will decide what I will do. Right now based on the data I would only get it if required to execute my job.

 

[TimeBandit]

The couple that lives next door to me are both in the hospital on ventilators. Yes they are in their 80's, but this shit is real.

ANYTHING that improves the survival rate I am for 100%.