- Jul 15, 2010
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Two big rollers over my bow the other day. About four inches of water in boat. Got trapped between surf boat and shore no where to go. They didn’t give a damn. I hate surf boatsYour son has some boating problems....
wasn’t there a trailer thread a couple weeks ago?
those wakeboard boat wakes are no joke though
I tried to damn near roll through a set a few years ago. The entire boat submarined. My cousin was behind us and said the entire boat disappeared. We had about 8" of water in the boat. VERY close to sinking with my 1 year old daughter and dad. Completely destroyed the Bimini and scared the shit out of my daughter.Two big rollers over my bow the other day. About four inches of water in boat. Got trapped between surf boat and shore no where to go. They didn’t give a damn. I hate surf boats
And that's the point! ... There is no place for OCEAN ROLLERS in inland lakes, rivers, or reservoirs! ... Unless you go surf some class 4 and 5 rapids!Ever seen a wake from a 65ft sport fisher? Or an 80ft tug boat. 6 ft rollers are no exaggeration. Or try LOTO or any bay near Miami.
That's the dumbest justification for wake board boats I've ever read.Well. Not trying to start shit. But as a driver it’s your duty to pay attention. Ever been to an area with big boats ? San Diego bay is a perfect example...... if you as a driver are not paying attention, your fucked. Ever seen a wake from a 65ft sport fisher? Or an 80ft tug boat. 6 ft rollers are no exaggeration. Or try LOTO or any bay near Miami. So ya, it sucks the boat was damaged, but the driver needs to pay attention. After all he IS the captain,and it’s his duty to keep his vessel safe . If you like wake boats or not, they are here to stay, and really, their wakes a small compared to many other types Of boats out there.
We were camping at Powell 3 years ago and in the middle of the night had some DUMB ASSES with huge lights running up and down the SMALL canyon we were in. Had to get in the water to keep my boat from being smacked against the shore. TOTAL ASSHOLES. They don't give shit about anyone but themselves.It’s the driver, not the boat. They are the most self centered, inconsiderate, I/ME/MY people on the planet.
The solution...challenge him. Get his registration number and file a claim against his insurance since his liability follows his wake until it reaches shore.View attachment 899778 Be carful guys especially if you have an older boat like this. My son is cruising up the Gorge just before the Sand Bar. Big Malibu V drive comes up on him going the other direction half on plane no surfers he described the boat had to have ballast full by the size of the wake. He hits the wake and here’s a bang the bulkhead in the boat breaks out and is laying on the floor in front of his feet. After more inspection we found out it broke the battery box mounts and the driver side seat base that was glassed in. Don’t get me wrong I understand this boat is 43 years and old but this isn’t some abused pile of shit it’s had one complete restoration and is garage kept. I hate to see these old classic boats go in the trash can over something that can be changed. View attachment 899771 View attachment 899772 View attachment 899773
And that is saying a lot.That's the dumbest justification for wake board boats I've ever read.
This has been around for 10 years. This is just the cheapo set up for someone who hasn't bought a surf boat in the past decade and wants to surf. 99% of the new boats come with a "surf system". Some sort of paddle or tab or blade that comes out of stern to form the wave on the other side of the boat.
@RiverDave has said it before. Do we really want more regulation. My answer is no but I really don't see any other options anymore as the dumbass captains don't see an issue with their wakes. One of my best friends started boating with a jet bote and now has a wakeboat so he understands the issue and is responsible.Hopefully LHC, Coast Guard, SBCSO, etc vote in favor to ticket wakeboats that plow while not pulling anyone. A sheriff mentioned this to me a few weeks back.
Cross your fingers.
Agreed on less government intrusion. The sheriff I was having a few beers with said they are fed up with the BS wakes and operators as they see the damage and have to respond. All of the agencies collectively proposed this.@RiverDave has said it before. Do we really want more regulation. My answer is no but I really don't see any other options anymore as the dumbass captains don't see an issue with their wakes. One of my best friends started boating with a jet bote and now has a wakeboat so he understands the issue and is responsible.
And that's the point! ... There is no place for OCEAN ROLLERS in inland lakes, rivers, or reservoirs! ... Unless you go surf some class 4 and 5 rapids!
.... What will be awesome is when the Manufacturers start getting sued for the damage that boat causes and the lives they're gonna take!
Think ya missed the point. It’s about a captain paying attention to His surroundings. It’s not up to you to decide what boats are on the water. So it’s up to you to make sure your operating YOUR boat safely. Which means sometimes , the captain has to slow to safely operate his boat. Ya can’t take every boat off the water that makes a large wake. I don’t own a wake boat, but I realize it’s just part of boating.That's the dumbest justification for wake board boats I've ever read.
And that is saying a lot.
Wake surfing is the equivalent of getting out of bed. Pretty much every living being can do it, but a few are very proud of it.
I'd be pissed too if I saw that jack ass carving a big ol hole for someone to fall in!I've been dealing with tugboats for decades in the ocean and the Fraser river in my Spectras.Definitely have to pay attention when they came up close. Even in my 24* deadrise Mirage, I slowed down and maneuvred around the big swells they make. However, in recreational waters like Havasu and Parker, those plow boats days are numbered, when authorities get fed up hearing complaints of shore line erosion and dock and property damage.
The tug in this picture is actually one of the small ones operating around Vancouver.
Hey, just fyi, I got pulled over and ticketed on the parker strip for having a red flag up continually while water skiing. My sister inlaw did not know the rules and held the flag up. So it is not legal for the very reason you mentioned, red flag up means rope in water or person down. I also just posted and like you I could not even see the surfer behind the boat because of wake size.Wakesurfers should all get a 6' pole with green flag on top to warn others.
I passed one on the strip and they were using a red flag on 6' pole as they surfed. I wondered what was going on moved to other side of the river and slowed down and then I hit the massive rollers. The surfer I could not even see until I passed them. They were surfing down river where there is no docks and it was very courteous of them to use the flag as a warning. Only issue with red flag was I was checking the water to make sure nobody was down. A green flag would have been ideal.
There are people working on this. Can't happen soon enough.My last experience behind a wake/surf/full ballast boat in operation. I was behind it and safely trolling to wait for an opening to pass. I never saw the 5' girl surfing in the wake trowel until I passed the boat. Trust me I am careful and always stay my distance. I just remember thinking, if she fell no one behind this boat would have seen her. This was on the Parker strip, I am sure the boat was putting out a 4' wake. I predict the day will come when no ballast will be allowed in Parker.
Yes! I see them going out earlier and earlier to avoid wake from other surfboats, fuckmeDo other wake surfers get mad at other wake surfers making big waves? Now how is that for a mind fuck? Sure they do. Just like the same assholes who get mad at guys going 85 in the fast lane and they want to do 90. Both are breaking the law, but one wants to do it even faster. hahahaha!
Roger that. I’m a old grouch, but considerate of others. First time I wake surfed was in the Bay Area, almost 20 years ago on the lagoon when it was blown out and no longer skiable. I still hold that any healthy person can do it, and after about 5 rides any moderately skilled waterman grows bored of it. Surfing in the ocean does take skill, patience, and fitness. I live at the beach so maybe that’s why I can see true surfing and not posers behind a boat.First off, let me preface I am not defending any assholes who drive around with full ballast, bumping music near peoples homes and docs.
Although I worked for Nautique for years and have wake surfed some, I don't really care for the sport either. However, your blanket statement "anyone can do it" is like saying anyone can ride a bicycle, run, shoot a gun or throw a ball. Sure, about 75% of the planet can get up and hang behind the boat but I think you have to look at the level people do things. Sure most people can bowl a 85 to 110 but how many can constantly bowl a 235? Same with wake surfing. I know guys who get up behind the boat and just sit there like a bump on a log; F-N boring if you ask me, but I am also friends with guys who can do a switch stance 360 shove its with a 180 body varials. Insane athletic ability. Most of them can surf well in the ocean too.
I get the whole wake surfing thing. It is an endless wave even if you live in Kansas. As long as you have a lake and a surf boat you can do it.
I really have no interest in wake surfing at all. It supported me and my family for a long time, but even when I dealt with 250k wake boats, I still just wanted a 70mph lake boat. hahaha. Most of my customers were so die hard, I couldn't believe it. Literally up at 7am on the water by 7:30 and surf non stop until the sun goes down. No beers, no hanging out swimming, no nothing. That is insane to me, but to each their own I guess.