I wouldn't let some random random person in my home that has some papers and a badge. I'll call the non emergency number and have them send a marked car to verify. A quick Google search ATTACH=full]971251[/ATTACH]
Totally agree RD, as a retired LBPD we get calls like this all the time, we have other agencies in our city constantly. The Patrol officer over reacted, you can tell by his voice he isn't confident, and once you get the second officer there and the Fed is on the ground, take his gun, check his ID, sit the guy up and confirm who he is. No need to cuff, no need to put him in the back of the car and more importantly no need to keep yelling and arguing with him.
Sorry Dave, time to pull into pit row on this.
Well that is a pointless A to B argument. The Fed acted like an idiot. I worked UC and knew there was a chance for LE contact. Nobody knows who you are and those cops aren't taking any chances.... they are going home at the end of their shift. That could have been a bail bondsman or Debt collector for all they know. You are right though, figure out who he is then dust him off.
This!
The ATF agent refused orders from the first moment of contact. He should know how to handle the situation and he didn't. Based in the description of the initial call, I'd say the cops reaction was warranted. Also, there was initially only 1 cop on scene. It wasn't til a little bit later the other cop pulled up from the other direction. None of the other officers appeared to arrive til he was fully cuffed.
You're an idiot. He was continuing to refuse direction on the ground and would not allow them to get the second cuff on until he was tasered. It's in the video plain as day.
Actually he told him to turn around and show him his hands twice then agent said he's a federal agent officer said "Ok let me see your hands, I'll need to see some ID" then agent starts towards officer without showing hands and that's when shit got crazy.
Holy shite, is everybody on RDP a cop, active or retired ? And here I thought everybody was a sparky or HVAC guru
Welcome to the party. What constitutional rights were violated in either of those videos? Please type slowly, you know it only took 6 month (what ever that means) to become a police officer.
Lol... Some times it takes a swift escalation to achieve that de escalation Dave. It's not rocket science.
So what happened dude? Did you get a speeding ticket? Why the dislike for Law Enforcement? Oh that's right, you have friends and family in the business, so this is just some social justice shit. Did you get woke between 08 and now, or have I just forgotten you views?
My right foot came off the gas and buried the nose of the Trans Am in pavement --- Obvious much I didn't even watch for him to spin around, I knew I was had. So I immediately pulled over and waiting for him, license and reg in my left hand, both hands on the wheel when he finally approached my window.
He chewed my ass out a bit, but politely, wrote me for doing 65 in a 55 (This was a while ago obviously) and that was that. 
For me it was a completely opposite move that proved beneficial in my case of "Speed". Was mid-week, mid-day, Rice road many years ago. Doing well over 100 when my radar detector screamed bloody murder at the same time I saw the B&W come over the knoll.
When he inquired the usual, "Do you know how fast you were going ?" leading question, I followed with a question, " Before or after I had the nose scraping the pavement ? "
He just chuckled, responding he'd clocked me at 95 or something like that, I was actually relieved.
Treating LEO with respect has at least so far, resulted in reasonable and fair outcomes, all things considered.
It's all Dave's fault!
That's pretty funny right there. So someone else can use a nice broad brush and a bunch of passive aggressive bullshit to talk shit about cops, but when I ask why the view is what it is, I'm the asshole for doing so? Is that how it works in upside down backwards land?
Well that sucks. Sorry for your loss. But that doesn't give you cart blanche to insult cops across the board. It seems those involved with your dad didn't have the medical training associated with recognizing symptoms of the stroke vs intoxication. No idea when or where it happened, but those things are discussed a ton now, and the majority of time we are calling in Fire to check them out before taking them to jail on a DUI.
