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  1. GETBOATS

    GETBOATS Well-Known Member

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    Headless hula Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like "guilt" came from his dealership, not mercury.
     
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    Interesting article, except I learned I’m not in the majority.:(
     
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    Sta-Bil Marine along with Mercs additives for the Verado.
     
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  5. RiverDave

    RiverDave In it to win it

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    I know you are up at topock today, but how did this all pan out?
     
  6. FlyByWire

    FlyByWire Well-Known Member

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    LOL

    Barrett has the new power head and they are just waiting for their schedule to clear a little bit to get her in. Merc wants them to run the boat and check for a couple things they’ve seen with this brand of toon (and this dealer I guess), mostly having to do with engine position, trim, and if it’s sucking aerated water due to the center toon.
     
  7. Lavey29

    Lavey29 Floatin Dirty

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    Ok cool been using that for many years also
     
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  8. GETBOATS

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    I tend to lean toward this engine failure having zero to do with ethanol, boat/engine has not been in service long enough for the ethanol to cause issue with fuel system components, phase separation, or corrosion within the fuel system. Sounds like dealer/factory is looking to rigging/setup/over propping as a probable cause. Engine computer will show some failure causes assuming there are sensors to track electrical ranges the sensors were designed to operate within. I.E. over heat, lack of oil pressure, over rev, and many others. It won't to my knowledge track an engine that is being held back by being over propped, they must run in the upper ranges of the manufactures RPM range. We may never know, its unlikely factory will share.
     
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    Crazyhippy Haters gonna Hate

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    Should be able to see if it is overpropped from the throttle position sensor and RPM... WOT for 2 minutes and only 4500rpm, just a bit over propped! (not saying that is the case here, just a grievous example)
     
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    Headless hula Well-Known Member

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    Do either one of you folks own current product?
    Just wondering outloud if either of you have read an owners manual, or maybe even for the especially gifted, an installation manual????


    Guess what boys here's yooore lucky day. I happen to have both on my hands.


    The conjecture and mere FU KING GUESSING pisses me me off to no end.


    Over propped? Are you fucking high right now?
    Did ANYONE IN THIS THREAD SAY ANYTHING ABOUT A PROP?


    nope. They didn't.



    Let's read a couple of thing out of the manual shall we? 15730177300482719810743090974216.jpg
     
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    Headless hula Well-Known Member

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    Let's pay SPECIAL attention to this section shall we? 15730179559716877101482972998560.jpg


    Oh. Page 14...


    Let's go there.
     
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    Headless hula Well-Known Member

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    Here are page 14 and 15 from the installation manual.


    Pay SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE END OF PAGE 15.....



    If YOOOOOOOORE böte rides with the exhaust relief below the waterline, it doesnt fall within factory installation parameters....


    If the shithead that rigged you're böte DIDNT FOLLOW the DIRECTIONS THAY WERE SUPPLIED WITH THE ENGINE, why is it mercury's fault it didn't perform as advertised?

    Sounds like it may have had something done by a 3rd party that didnt know what they were supposed to do. LIKE BASIC READING COMPREHENSION.



    Kinda what is LACKING in this thread..


    NOBODY EVER SAID SHIT ABOUT A PROP.
    the dealer handling the warranty did however say that merc was interested in the installed engine height and the possibility of water intrusion from a middle toon.

    Oh, and that's AFTER they shipped a brand spankin new power head to replace the original.




    In my eyes, the folks that rigged the boat didnt follow the correct installation procedure and hung the engine too low, and it sucked water into the bottom hole. It hydrolocked, and windowed the block.


    The VERY FIRST thing a DEALERSHIP does is question the fuel. When that checks out, let's make sure it was installed according to their specs.


    This one sounds questionable.


    But hey....

    They sent him a new powerhead. Must be Mercury's fault.


    Wtf. Wish I could find customer service and warranty this good for a vehicle.


    You guys will never cease fo amaze me with the hate for a manufacturer....


    Its ALWAYS their fault, its ALWAYS their problem.
     
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    Crazyhippy Haters gonna Hate

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    Simmer down Francis... You are assuming it was mounted incorrectly. Others have assumed it was overpropped...

    And just for shits and giggles, lets throw a MFG defect into it to.

    Of the 3 potential causes listed, 2 of them would be on the rigger, and one would be on Merc. How is that hating on a MFG? Merc taking care of the issue is awesome, and them figuring out what caused it so it doesn't happen again is even better.
     
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    Wow!!! Logic instead of BLASTOFF!! thank you crazyhippy

    for the most part HH makes my argument, these are the things they, "the people helping solve this dilemma" will be looking for because its in the best interest of all concerned. As for the Propeller, You'd be amazed the number of boats that are incorrectly propped. Boat manufactures are guilty of squeezing that last 1-2 MPH for the brochure/test report, take your lunch on board and its wrong, so I assure all RPM profile is where they will start, these days a computer download is first. O and I'm not pissed:):):)
     
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    Happened to catch the Barrett fellas out joy riding my hooptie today. Looked good. Hoping for a call tomorrow with some good news.
     
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    HH came off a little rough...but I did learn something.
     

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