Sleek-Jet
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WSJ is reporting the merger... Was that the plan all along?
WSJ is reporting the merger... Was that the plan all along?
I don't. The only reason LIV had any affect is because they spent billions of public dollars with a guy who had a personal agenda against the pga. If Norman hadn't of blown his 6 shot lead at the '96 Masters he'd not have been so butthurt by the negative publicity from that, he did not handle it well.PGA Looks dumb in all of this . IMO this proves they were monopolizing the game of golf and were preventing players from being “free” to play wherever they chose.
from my perspective it has less to do with LIV vs PGA and more to do with the PGA sitting on their high horse bashing and banning quality golfers from competing in PGA events because they joined LIV. Whether it was LIV or any other tour it had to happen.I don't. The only reason LIV had any affect is because they spent billions of public dollars with a guy who had a personal agenda against the pga. If Norman hadn't of blown his 6 shot lead at the '96 Masters he'd not have been so butthurt by the negative publicity from that, he did not handle it well.
Did LIV's creation cause new formats & payouts on the pga? Sure.
But LIV was never going to compete as far as historical rounds/tourneys or prestige. The tiny bit of tv I did see them play sucked. Horrible production honestly.
In my mind when all this shit started boiling over I figured by the time most of the 4yr LIV player contracts were to end we'd see a merger or takeover with the pga still maintaining majority.
Here we are.
I used to like Rory. However what he said about LIV and those golfers who went to LIV was a huge turn-off.from my perspective it has less to do with LIV vs PGA and more to do with the PGA sitting on their high horse bashing and banning quality golfers from competing in PGA events because they joined LIV. Whether it was LIV or any other tour it had to happen.
The PGA’s public stance regarding competition and revoking tour cards was bad. I lost respect for the PGA as a casual fan and it turned me away from watching their tournaments.
The fact that they conceded after such a hard stance makes them look soft and greedy. I’m curious to see what Rory and the other PGA players have to say that black balled their competitors for going to LIV…
It is an Elitist sport and they do things different than us normal people I also don't quite buy into the pga conceding, more like LIV did to a large degree. It seems as though they took Norman off the negotiating table and let a sensible Arab figure a way to stop the major hemorrhaging and remain viable in the golf world. They were bleeding cash faster than Joe Biden can print it. LIV's tv deal has been a fail.from my perspective it has less to do with LIV vs PGA and more to do with the PGA sitting on their high horse bashing and banning quality golfers from competing in PGA events because they joined LIV. Whether it was LIV or any other tour it had to happen.
The PGA’s public stance regarding competition and revoking tour cards was bad. I lost respect for the PGA as a casual fan and it turned me away from watching their tournaments.
The fact that they conceded after such a hard stance makes them look soft and greedy. I’m curious to see what Rory and the other PGA players have to say that black balled their competitors for going to LIV…
I used to like PhilI used to like Rory. However what he said about LIV and those golfers who went to LIV was a huge turn-off.
It will be interesting how those LIV golfers get their PGA cards back and what team golf (LIV) events occur in 2024.
Adulting is hardI used to like Phil
People say mean things during a divorce. Adults will get past it & move forward.......others will hold a grudge their lifetime.
My brother sent that to me this morning. I thought it was fake at first lol
Lol I’m dying laughing at all of the people who were so anti LIV. Now Twitter is full of people saying how this may be a good thing.
No Shit!! Doing business with the country in charge of flying those planes into the buildings on 9/11. Is anyone going to boycott watching golf or are we still concentrating on Bud Light?
You’d have to boycott Israhell and your own beloved USA.
Saudi was just the delivery system.
And I believe they had to see their “contract” all the way through otherwise you owed the difference.Tweet from Koepka today: "Welfare Check on Chamblee". LMAO.
The payoff to the players from LIV were guaranteed "winnings", so they didn't get a big fat check to start, just a guarantee against their anticipated winnings in the tournaments. So if they were guaranteed $100M over 10 years, and only won $8M a year, then LIV would make up the $2M difference. I am sure it is structured differently for some, but that was my understanding at the beginning.
IMO
LIV finally paid "Mafia $$$" that the PGA Tour requested for Tour members to complete in "LIV" non sanctioned Tour events.
which has been ongoing for decades.
LIV flipped the Bird on that original proposal...
sounds like a backroom deal was struck..
also, Tiger and Rory were consulted on this merger...
NFW it was TIMMY BOY decision..
just my opinion...
PS... the PGA TOUR Professionals was started by Annie, Jack and Player...
who told PGA of America...
"We are the TOUR" and We will run it as we see fit $$$$"
Rory, actually said he knew of negotiations ongoing between the tour and LIV.... stated in his recent interview.... said he was suprised it happen so fast.....For 50 years, the PGA of America and the PGA Tour have been separate organizations.
Based on the interviews, Rory had no idea. The negotiations have been going on for 7 weeks by 2 PGA Tour board members.
Can I boycott something I don't watch?So who’s going to boycott PGA golf over all this?
Can I boycott something I don't watch?
You're right, I forgot I was in the lounge. I'll dumb it down for the masses.I think Confucius first asked that question.
When do the Saudis start a multi Billion dollar football league?
Monahan will not survive this. Once the deal is complete and finalized, he will get voted out by the players.It will be interesting to see how all this shakes out.
It would suck for the players that stayed loyal to PGA to get nothing, while those who left got fat payouts.....but with risk comes reward.
What does the deal involve?
The organisations said in a joint news release that they will work together to allow a process for LIV Golf players to reapply for membership on the PGA Tour and DP World Tour, formerly known as the European Tour, following the 2023 season.
The name of the newly merged entity and the precise structure of the tours have yet to be announced. Yasir al-Rumayyan, the governor of Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund (PIF), will chair the board of the new entity and PGA Tour’s Monahan will be CEO.
-Al Jazeera News
If only that worked for NHRA.So the PGA Tour gets more Saudi money and the LIV golf issues go away.
From day 1, it was all about who was getting the money.
Needed to occur, but IMO it shows the PGA was all about the money