What’s Happening at the SPEED Center….. aKa old Hastings Building

[dirtslinger2]

Doesn’t look like a “game changer” compared to a 2 seater from 5yrs ago.

I mean I guess if you ignore the toe and track width changes as it cycles, sure..........

 

[dirtslinger2]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CtNc0E0J5cb/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Check the front wheel movements on the Wilson's Jimco.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

For a car that was outdated before it even came out, it’s pretty cool that he’s going through the rough stuff as fast as his race car in a stock Speed car.

Doesn’t look like a “game changer” compared to a 2 seater from 5yrs ago.

Not to make excuses for the Speed car, But it’s right off the showroom floor -only thing done was set the ride height According to the video.
Doesn’t even have the upgraded springs on it yet.
He did say his speed over that section was 40-42 and that was what his Race car would do


The Speed car looked like it could be improved some more - seemed to have a controlled rear end Buck a little

I mean I guess if you ignore the toe and track width changes as it cycles, sure..........

Lol thanks Robbie.

 

[dirtslinger2]

Doesn’t look like a “game changer” compared to a 2 seater from 5yrs ago.


Lol thanks Robbie.

It's Robby

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Doesn’t look like a “game changer” compared to a 2 seater from 5yrs ago.


Lol thanks Robbie.

Then enjoy your Turbo S.

The impartial guy that drove and owned both them says this is better. As does every review so far.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Then enjoy your Turbo S.

The impartial guy that drove and owned both them says this is better. As does every review so far.

Let’s see how they do after the actually get a few more miles an them before we start telling everyone the need to switch brands.

Did you get your car yet?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Let’s see how they do after the actually get a few more miles an them before we start telling everyone the need to switch brands.

Did you get your car yet?

I’ve never told anyone switch brands. Drive whatever you want.

I was told this was a scam, I’ve been ripped off, the car won’t be good, it will be outdated, etc. Now they seem to be delivering what was promised.

Mine is in the tail end of the group of 300 they are building now. So probably in 2-3 months, which will be perfect timing.

 

[702sandman]

I would say 90% of owners if not more would never know what correct geometry even feels like…
as far as toe change during suspension travel you can fix that with shock therapy’s bump steer delete kit. For example my race pro xp had 3+ inches of toe change from full droop to full bump, after the bump delete kit I set it at 1/8” from full droop to full bump. They offer this kit for most cars now.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I would say 90% of owners if not more would never know what correct geometry even feels like…
as far as toe change during suspension travel you can fix that with shock therapy’s bump steer delete kit. For example my race pro xp had 3+ inches of toe change from full droop to full bump, after the bump delete kit I set it at 1/8” from full droop to full bump. They offer this kit for most cars now.

Luckily this is a car marketed towards the 10% that are performance oriented drivers and the other 90% can by happy in their ignorance listening to their stereo.

But you still can’t fix the center of gravity, roll center, track width change and other poor geometry with any off the shelf kit.

I have the same bump steer kit on my Polaris. The car drives night and day better than my old car without a bump steer kit. They should have never even left the factory like that.

It’s just another $300 I don’t have to spend with the Speed car, because the Vietnamese set it up correctly at the factory

 

[702sandman]

Luckily this is a car marketed towards the 10% that are performance oriented drivers and the other 90% can by happy in their ignorance listening to their stereo.

But you still can’t fix the center of gravity, roll center, track width change and other poor geometry with any off the shelf kit.

I have the same bump steer kit on my Polaris. The car drives night and day better than my old car without a bump steer kit. They should have never even left the factory like that.

It’s just another $300 I don’t have to spend with the Speed car, because the Vietnamese set it up correctly at the factory

It really wasn’t that bad since I had a extra $1000 to spend on some cool accessories for my Pro R

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

This just in from Temecula

 

[riverroyal]

This just in from Temecula

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Temecula? Ok I can give 2 thumbs up

 

[Boatymcboatface]

This just in from Temecula

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It was at Temecula motorsports had what looked like temp Cali plates.

 

[Havasu blue label]

Luckily this is a car marketed towards the 10% that are performance oriented drivers and the other 90% can by happy in their ignorance listening to their stereo.

But you still can’t fix the center of gravity, roll center, track width change and other poor geometry with any off the shelf kit.

I have the same bump steer kit on my Polaris. The car drives night and day better than my old car without a bump steer kit. They should have never even left the factory like that.

It’s just another $300 I don’t have to spend with the Speed car, because the Vietnamese set it up correctly at the factory

Ok so are you putting together a race team

 

[riverroyal]

It was at Temecula motorsports had what looked like temp Cali plates.

Interesting.

 

[RiverDave]

This just in from Temecula

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I have seen several
Pics of these things driving around California.. not sure how they are legally doing that

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I have seen several
Pics of these things driving around California.. not sure how they are legally doing that

Quite simply, they aren’t legal on the roads in CA. But hey, it probably just a ticket.

Will be interesting to see if anyone can get one over on the CA DMV because they are so new though.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

I have seen several
Pics of these things driving around California.. not sure how they are legally doing that

The one in Temecula had a temp custom cali plate. Maybe spnc100 title?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Pretty good review here of all 3 current top UTVs..

Polaris comes out on top. Speed in 2nd

Cliff notes -

Can Am is the fastest, with worst build quality/structure

Polaris stops the best, handles very well, pretty fast.

Speed has the best suspension, safest and strongest structure, still has a little steering feedback and could use more braking power.

 

[HCP3]

Pretty good review here of all 3 current top UTVs..

This was posted in the Speed thread.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

This was posted in the Speed thread.

Well for those that wish avoid that thread’s arguing and misinformation… it’s here

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Well for those that wish avoid that thread’s arguing and misinformation… it’s here

At least this one still full of truth!

Polaris 1st
Speed 2nd
Can am 3rd.

 

[RiverDave]

At least this one still full of truth!

Polaris 1st
Speed 2nd
Can am 3rd.

As I said elsewhere. If that’s truly the results I guess we will see cupacabra offroad sell his speed for what they are going for and buy a pro r while pocketing the difference..

I sincerely doubt that will be the case.. and I for one would like to ask him why.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

As I said elsewhere. If that’s truly the results I guess we will see cupacabra offroad sell his speed for what they are going for and buy a pro r while pocketing the difference..

I sincerely doubt that will be the case.. and I for one would like to ask him why.

You’re right he won’t but he will proceed to sink money into it to make it better. Just like he’s done with all the cars he’s owned before.

 

[EarpRider]

As I said elsewhere. If that’s truly the results I guess we will see cupacabra offroad sell his speed for what they are going for and buy a pro r while pocketing the difference..

I sincerely doubt that will be the case.. and I for one would like to ask him why.

I would think that he would keep it since he's in the business of selling aftermarket mirrors, bags, etc... Seems like he would put his products on it and take it places to show/sell his products. Speed cars are gonna get a lot of attention.

 

[NicPaus]

As I said elsewhere. If that’s truly the results I guess we will see cupacabra offroad sell his speed for what they are going for and buy a pro r while pocketing the difference..

I sincerely doubt that will be the case.. and I for one would like to ask him why.

I would think he would own 1 of each. That way he can manufacturer parts for each 1. It's a company purchase for R and D.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

At least this one still full of truth!

Polaris 1st
Speed 2nd
Can am 3rd.

Lol. This is what, the 6th customer car off the assembly line and it beats a Can Am and the suspension, build quality and safety outclasses the industry leader Polaris. FWIW the steering is already being further improved vs what is in his early Speed car.

If all it needs is a brake pad upgrade… I’m more than happy for the money saved.

 

[dirtslinger2]

As I said elsewhere. If that’s truly the results I guess we will see cupacabra offroad sell his speed for what they are going for and buy a pro r while pocketing the difference..

I sincerely doubt that will be the case.. and I for one would like to ask him why.

Hit him up, Nicks pretty approachable and will answer.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

As I said elsewhere. If that’s truly the results I guess we will see cupacabra offroad sell his speed for what they are going for and buy a pro r while pocketing the difference..

I sincerely doubt that will be the case.. and I for one would like to ask him why.

He’s gonna put Eibach springs and the Wilwood brakes on it and run the wheels off it. Way more upside for him keeping and running the Speed.

From their comments, it sounds like a more aggressive pad (Todd runs/ran Hawk Brakes) and probably a bigger rotor will help for a reasonable price.

 

[702sandman]

Nick can buy any car he wants. im Sure a pro R is on the horizon for him also to develop more parts to sell.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Lol. This is what, the 6th customer car off the assembly line and it beats a Can Am and the suspension, build quality and safety outclasses the industry leader Polaris. FWIW the steering is already being further improved vs what is in his early Speed car.

If all it needs is a brake pad upgrade… I’m more than happy for the money saved.

 

[DBMX]

Hit him up, Nicks pretty approachable and will answer.

I agree.... Nick is a really good dude.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

That’s the face I made too when the 7 year old Can Am smoked the Pro R in the drag race.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Of the three in the test video one thing Speed wins by a huge margin is looks!! That Pro R is one ugly SOB!

 

[riverroyal]

Lol. This is what, the 6th customer car off the assembly line and it beats a Can Am and the suspension, build quality and safety outclasses the industry leader Polaris. FWIW the steering is already being further improved vs what is in his early Speed car.

If all it needs is a brake pad upgrade… I’m more than happy for the money saved.

But but..it was promised to be....ahh forget it

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

But but..it was promised to be....ahh forget it

It seems like it is exactly what was promised for $32k .

 

[RiverDave]

It seems like it is exactly what was promised for $32k .

I believe the four seaters were 35 in the beginning

 

[RiverDave]

I agree.... Nick is a really good dude.

I wasn’t saying anything bad about the guy. I’m just curious if you asked that question and a simple follow up of which one would you buy today.. what the answers would be.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I believe the four seaters were 35 in the beginning

Both my 4 seater LEs were $32k. RG spec was $35k

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

It seems like it is exactly what was promised for $32k .

Ash, I believe the Speed cars are nice, will perform to expectations, no argument. However, you were insistent that "they need nothing" to go out and race or enjoy. Now you're stating that they need new brakes and springs (I think you said).

That's not really an issue to me, I'd live with the brakes. Point being they are ALL in need of small stuff to make them perform to our unique and individual wants or desires.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Ash, I believe the Speed cars are nice, will perform to expectations, no argument. However, you were insistent that "they need nothing" to go out and race or enjoy. Now you're stating that they need new brakes and springs (I think you said).

That's not really an issue to me, I'd live with the brakes. Point being they are ALL in need of small stuff to make them perform to our unique and individual wants or desires.

They need nothing to go out and enjoy. Anything you are going to race needs race and safety prep. Originally these were going to come with a 1 piece cage. That was changed to a multi piece cage somewhere down the line. The cage is still the most substantial of the group, and the safety is the highest in the Speed design.

None of the 3 cars tested need anything to hit the trail and drive. But the build and safety gaps of each car were well outlined.

Nice to haves, enhancements and bulletproofing.. Speed clearly needs the least.. if none at all, which I have said from the beginning. If there is stuff you or I wanted to add, of course the car does not come with that for the standard price. You can however get nearly everything you'd want added to the car prior to delivery for $0 labor and the parts are under warranty.

The Speed seems it could use better brakes to drive at 10/10 ths to fully utilize the superior suspension and geometry. For cruising around and on dirt, the brakes sound like they are adequate.

Speed offers optional Eibach springs. The test car still had stock springs on it. No one said there would not be optional parts and upgrades.

 

[counterpart7]

They need nothing to go out and enjoy. None of the 3 cars tested need anything to hit the trail and drive.

Nice to haves, enhancements and bulletproofing.. Speed clearly needs the least.

With that statement, there are no UTVs on the market that “need anything to hit the trail and drive”. Pretty sure you can buy any new UTV and plop it on a trail, that’s what they’re meant for

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

With that statement, there are no UTVs on the market that “need anything to hit the trail and drive”. Pretty sure you can buy any new UTV and plop it on a trail, that’s what they’re meant for

I agree completely.

However you can get a Speed configured closer to your desired end state than any other UTV direct from the factory.

 

[DBMX]

I wasn’t saying anything bad about the guy. I’m just curious if you asked that question and a simple follow up of which one would you buy today.. what the answers would be.

No worries..... I didn't take it that way.

I haven't but it is an interesting question for sure. I haven't talked to him about it much, but he does seem to really like it. The answer would probably be different for normal owner vs a aftermarket company owner. I can only imagine the amount of exposure, follows, and watches he is getting from owning one of the first speed UTV's out in the wild.

 

[DLC]

In the Shoot out video, I was a little disappointed w/ the can am suspension!

They didn’t say anything about its set up, You can get a Fox Shock set up ( which Raises the car up) or the C.A. factory set up (That is really low for the roll over testing ) The frt end looked really soft

Also on Nicks Speed car did he upgrade tires & go with 35’s or were those 33’s ?
Did he “ Dial In “ the suspension at all ?

Over All Great Video!
I’m really STOKED !! I Represent the Fastest Production SXS currently Made! - @Bpracing1127 - Your going to heed a bigger Turbo!


lol

 

[Bpracing1127]

In the Shoot out video, I was a little disappointed w/ the can am suspension!

They didn’t say anything about its set up, You can get a Fox Shock set up ( which Raises the car up) or the C.A. factory set up (That is really low for the roll over testing ) The frt end looked really soft

Also on Nicks Speed car did he upgrade tires & go with 35’s or were those 33’s ?
Did he “ Dial In “ the suspension at all ?

Over All Great Video!
I’m really STOKED !! I Represent the Fastest Production SXS currently Made! - @Bpracing1127 - Your going to heed a bigger Turbo!


lol

I need e85 and monster turbo to keep up. Then I need rocket fuel to be able to tow the gas station behind me. Your cars range gets bigger the more you drive it lol

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

In the Shoot out video, I was a little disappointed w/ the can am suspension!

They didn’t say anything about its set up, You can get a Fox Shock set up ( which Raises the car up) or the C.A. factory set up (That is really low for the roll over testing ) The frt end looked really soft

Also on Nicks Speed car did he upgrade tires & go with 35’s or were those 33’s ?
Did he “ Dial In “ the suspension at all ?

Over All Great Video!
I’m really STOKED !! I Represent the Fastest Production SXS currently Made! - @Bpracing1127 - Your going to heed a bigger Turbo!


lol

Supposedly the Can Ams are set up higher now and come with 32”s in the Turbo RRs. That appears to be the case here looking at the 3 cars.

The Speed is totally stock with the stock 32”s

 

[PlanB]

The factory springs on the Can Am are shit. When I got my car back from Shock Therapy it was a completely different car.

 

[DLC]

The factory springs on the Can Am are shit. When I got my car back from Shock Therapy it was a completely different car.

Ditto
Same w/ my car, although I never drove mine car in stock form off road

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Remember.. you “need” a $4k brake upgrade for this thing..

Not anymore. Just a pad change with the factory braking system.

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Car has enough braking power to lock up the tires now on pavement with the stock braking system. It did not do this in the previous test with Chupacabra.

If the production cars do this in the street, the braking will be fine in the dirt.