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Agree TV has allot to do with it. But why is everyone ragging on the kids. Its obvious what the problem is.......its the parents. TV and electronics became the babysitter. Its not the kids fault....its the parents....some of the very parents posting in this thread, I'm including myself if we are being honest. Also people just don't mind there business either. I think that's a big part.

The mentality of buying teenage kids new cars because they are good kids and get good grades? I've never understood rewarding behavior for something you are supposed to do. I do get that some reward can go along way but if it because an expectation now there is a problem.

My wife and I are also guilty to an extent, someone posted about a team sport that they didn't keep score, just last night my wife signed our 9 year old son up for soccer for the first time ( he has been wanting to play). I said cool, she then said how it was structured that they don't keep score its about learning the game. I was like WTF. I said get him in a regular league. She then explained her rational, which was this league is less demanding then the others i.e. less money, no volunteer work, no practices during the week, no games on multiple days during the week, shorter schedule of games etc. She said practice and games are on the same day right after each other also. She says if he likes it then lets go full force. I can understand and accept that logic.

Everyone thinks its a generation thing, but I don't, its a parent thing that other parents took notice of and did the same thing. Some good things some bad, its the parent choice, if you don't like it, mind your business, unless there is some sort of abuse going one.

There are allot of young people who feel the same way. There are good young adults out there doing great things and then there are those that aren't. The same with all other generations. Its just that social media such as this site are constantly looking at who to blame, but mostly we know who but don't want to acknowledge or accept it.

Just my two cents.

For sure....

AYSO keeps score at that age and if you don't win you don't advance to the end of the season tournament. I have coached the last 4 years for my sons team and last year was the last straw. While most parents are great some are freaking terrible...late to practice, games and when there kids act like assholes they are nose deep in there phone.

So frustrating. I think a lot of parents force kids to play sports even though they have absolutely zero desire. I would a million times over rather have a kid that lacks talent and athletic ability on my team if he has a desire to play than a bratty, lazy video game kid as he just can't be coached. We have 9 y/o's that fall down and cry after every collision and mom needs to go out on the field for little boo boos....sissys:D

We will never go back to AYSO even though my son was recruited for there select team. Club is a huge financial obligation and a complete life sucker but I made him a deal and as long as he gives it 100% we will keep supporting him.

Sports are great for kids but that competition gene needs to be born and fed at home at a young age and can't be taught when they are 15 when the kid doesn't want to get off the ipad.
 

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For sure....

AYSO keeps score at that age and if you don't win you don't advance to the end of the season tournament. I have coached the last 4 years for my sons team and last year was the last straw. While most parents are great some are freaking terrible...late to practice, games and when there kids act like assholes they are nose deep in there phone.

So frustrating. I think a lot of parents force kids to play sports even though they have absolutely zero desire. I would a million times over rather have a kid that lacks talent and athletic ability on my team if he has a desire to play than a bratty, lazy video game kid as he just can't be coached. We have 9 y/o's that fall down and cry after every collision and mom needs to go out on the field for little boo boos....sissys:D

We will never go back to AYSO even though my son was recruited for there select team. Club is a huge financial obligation and a complete life sucker but I made him a deal and as long as he gives it 100% we will keep supporting him.

Sports are great for kids but that competition gene needs to be born and fed at home at a young age and can't be taught when they are 15 when the kid doesn't want to get off the ipad.
OMG, I know what you are saying..
I was forced into coaching a my sons Flag Football team... when he was 12...

Wow, what a debacle that was..

Seriously, I am not joking... I had to teach a 12 year old boy how to catch a football.. It would bounce off his face if you threw it there...

Thinks thats bad... I had to teach that same kid how to run...

Honestly, I am not joking. His parents let him play video games up until then.. They brought him to me to sort out..

His life was miserable, because I worked his but into the ground.

He hated me, but his parents loved me... I put down the rules up front, let them know he would try to quit every day, if they allowed it to happen, then he won, not them. At the end of the season he finally got the message, and started trying. Because the moment he got lazy, he ran a lap, or dropped and gave me 10 pushups.... sprints... anything I could think of...

One day we stayed over an hour after practice.. to make him run 1 lap that he owed me....

But after dealing with alot of parents who brought their kids to sports for the wrong reasons, and motivations, I decided it was better for my mental health, to not do it again.
 

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The competitive gene is in my kids, but differently among the three. Youngest is in athletics, middle in both physical things and school, daughter is the academic super nerd. She wants a degree before HS graduation, and to be valedictorian...super nerd. Wife and I were both competitive. We both did club swimming, not YMCA stuff, like swim 4-5 miles a day and go to school (Up hill both ways in the snow:)) She stayed in it through college. Sports are great, kept my ass going to school...well them and girls.
 

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Tucker on Fox has done some great monologues recently on the breakdown of the family and the rise of socialism. I think it relates. Our system is broken. Sloth and victimhood is rewarded while self reliance and independence is discouraged in society. Saying goes if you want more of something subsidize it, want less of it, tax it. Kids out of wedlock, broken homes, uncountable people are a dime a dozen. Take a look. It has some politics. But the root cause of our plight is from politicians.

Without a doubt Tucker’s best monologue, he’s absolutely spot on here..
 

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OMG, I know what you are saying..
I was forced into coaching a my sons Flag Football team... when he was 12...

Wow, what a debacle that was..

Seriously, I am not joking... I had to teach a 12 year old boy how to catch a football.. It would bounce off his face if you threw it there...

Thinks thats bad... I had to teach that same kid how to run...

Honestly, I am not joking. His parents let him play video games up until then.. They brought him to me to sort out..

His life was miserable, because I worked his but into the ground.

He hated me, but his parents loved me... I put down the rules up front, let them know he would try to quit every day, if they allowed it to happen, then he won, not them. At the end of the season he finally got the message, and started trying. Because the moment he got lazy, he ran a lap, or dropped and gave me 10 pushups.... sprints... anything I could think of...

One day we stayed over an hour after practice.. to make him run 1 lap that he owed me....

But after dealing with alot of parents who brought their kids to sports for the wrong reasons, and motivations, I decided it was better for my mental health, to not do it again.

I feel you:D

You really have to be a saint to do it. I have coached with a buddy and our two sons so I would say I am Coach 1b. He is much nicer than I am so we can play the good cop/bad cop thing and he is good with the parents. I'm the asshole that makes them run for talking back or screwing around...haha

Interested to hear how hard you are on your son...lol Nothing pisses me off more than when my kid gets down on the team because of the score and starts only giving it 50%. In fact it infuriates me more than anything even though he is still better than most at 50%. He doesen't like it when I"'m harder on him then the rest of the kids but I have explained it's because I hold him to a higher standard .I think he likes it much better now that I don't have to coach:D:D

We were on a 9U team and we had kids that were 7 and had zero soccer experience. It got to the point where I felt bad for my kid because if he didn't score 5+ goals as well as play the whole field defending we would get smoked. It just wasn't fair to him as he has been playing since he was 5 and is at a different level. Honestly I would have gone straight to club this year if I would have know how bad the team draws were. we were way way to young to compete in the league.
 

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I'm going to say wakesurf boats. They seem to turn manly men into whiney little bitches really quick! I mean it all makes sense, those boats came on the scene about 15 years ago...

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The competitive gene is in my kids, but differently among the three. Youngest is in athletics, middle in both physical things and school, daughter is the academic super nerd. She wants a degree before HS graduation, and to be valedictorian...super nerd. Wife and I were both competitive. We both did club swimming, not YMCA stuff, like swim 4-5 miles a day and go to school (Up hill both ways in the snow:)) She stayed in it through college. Sports are great, kept my ass going to school...well them and girls.
Competition is great doesn't have to be in sports...They just need to go after something.:)

My kid would be lucky to have a 3.2GPA in High School. He's smart as shit but has his dads I would rather be outside gene.

He is already bored to death in school and wants to get a job and move out...haha
 

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I believe after the assassination of JFK , this country has slowly went down hill as a whole ......

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Even in the workplace it has gotten very easy.
Today you have to make sure it is completely safe even if moving a ladder. Today if a employee in the power industry does any work he must complete a job safety analysis of any hazard. Most of the time this thing just paper whiped. The lazy guys love it they do little work and just fill out paper work. Not long ago you hired a person that could think on his own and do the work that needed to get done. Today you would get fired if you went to work with filling out all the paper work.
When I worked for BAR, I had a safe in my office with $7000.00 cash in it. An auditor came around and said it needed to be bolted to the floor. The next day I showed up to work with a Roto Hammer and some anchor bolts and took care of it. Three weeks later the facilities person came in and said that she was putting the job out for three bids. She flipped out when I told her that I already took care of it.
 

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This is a somewhat serious question. I have my theories, but what are yours? We have guys trying to be girls, but still like girls... The sight of a firearm, "triggers" people... We have the "Trigger" word being used, and it was a part of a gun when I was a kid. The country is worried more about "Feelings", than actions or accomplishments.
Notice, this isn't about politics and immigration? We have some other problems I think. I'm 41. I grew up in a house where it was stated, "You come home with an earing, you'll walk out wearing a dress". I was taught that sometimes you may bleed at work, but the job needs to get done. When I was young, I remember my Dad near crawling through the door, back jacked up. He'd go to bed, to wake up at 3:30am and do it again. Now some people look at blue collar workers as a lower class, and don't give them any respect. Those same people are also the ones that complain about the costs of repairs on their homes. Pick up a damn hammer, and swing it for a few hours!
My brother is a "Computer information something something", and he is one of them. He still owes a ton on his house, but owns some nice bottles of wine I'm told. I buy my beverages a 12pack at a time, but own a couple properties outright. Sure, there are cold damp mornings my body hurts. On those, I often wonder if I'd have been better off with, "schoolin' and a degree". By the end of my first cup of coffee, I come to my senses. I wouldn't be here. My blood, sweat and tears came from much more than paper cuts and hot sauce.
The educational system is the single biggest contributor as far as I can figure.
 

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joe...you are too short and married to of ever had game:D
Ya know...most anybody would think that, including me!

But, I didn't get married until was 38. I was Way too busy havin fun. It's not a matter of short, tall, fat or even ugly!

It's about how to talk to and treat people. Epecially those of the opposite sex
 

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Ya know...most anybody would think that, including me!

But, I didn't get married until was 38. I was Way too busy havin fun. It's not a matter of short, tall, fat or even ugly!

It's about how to talk to and treat people. Epecially those of the opposite sex
Exactly.
Apparently I’m a catch.
I have zero desire for any companionship right now, don’t know or care if that will ever change.
But I’m finding that females seem to find me engaging.
All ages too.
Maybe it’s just that the pool of men with jobs, cars and a little folding money is small, or full of jackasses?
Seems the single guy pool is either flatbiller or metro?

Deb used to be extremely jealous at times of other women being around me, which I found 100% comical. As I used to tell her “Deb you are the only female on earth that finds me desirable”. Maybe it doesn’t have a lot to do with looks?
 

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We were in Italy about a month and noticed the phone was nut plugged into everyone’s ear. People were out talking to each other. Young kids at the scooter dealer eyeing the latest scooters and playing grab ass with no parents around. They were playing soccer in the alleys with no parents! Yes on their own. When is the last time you have seen kids playing a sport on their own with adult supervision.
When I worked for BAR, I had a safe in my office with $7000.00 cash in it. An auditor came around and said it needed to be bolted to the floor. The next day I showed up to work with a Roto Hammer and some anchor bolts and took care of it. Three weeks later the facilities person came in and said that she was putting the job out for three bids. She flipped out when I told her that I already took care of it.
We would have fired you because you were not certified trained how to operate a drill and did the job without a safety person standing by. Oh yes your job safety analysis was not completed and signed by a supervisor. Fired sad
 

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We were in Italy about a month and noticed the phone was nut plugged into everyone’s ear. People were out talking to each other. Young kids at the scooter dealer eyeing the latest scooters and playing grab ass with no parents around. They were playing soccer in the alleys with no parents! Yes on their own. When is the last time you have seen kids playing a sport on their own with adult supervision.

We would have fired you because you were not certified trained how to operate a drill and did the job without a safety person standing by. Oh yes your job safety analysis was not completed and signed by a supervisor. Fired sad
JSA’s are a huge part of daily rig operations.
I’m a big fan of training and implementation of safety procedures
The big problem I see is all these JSA’s and pre job meetings do nothing to alleviate risk.
They basically have mutated into a strictly “CYA” reality.
It’s in the implementation,
or lack thereof, where everything breaks down.
It ends up being strictly a big waste of time safety wise.
 

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JSA’s are a huge part of daily rig operations.
I’m a big fan of training and implementation of safety procedures
The big problem I see is all these JSA’s and pre job meetings do nothing to alleviate risk.
They basically have mutated into a strictly “CYA” reality.
It’s in the implementation,
or lack thereof, where everything breaks down.
It ends up being strictly a big waste of time safety wise.
The key is getting them to invest in the process so they take it seriously. Our tailboards take all of 5 minutes, and everyone including the green apprentice gets a say. The guys are on board with what we are trying to accomplish.
 

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Competition is great doesn't have to be in sports...They just need to go after something.:)

My kid would be lucky to have a 3.2GPA in High School. He's smart as shit but has his dads I would rather be outside gene.

He is already bored to death in school and wants to get a job and move out...haha
Get that boy over to baseball man!!!!...:D
 

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I don't think it has anything to do with being manly. What good would it be to teach your kid how to write code or program a CNC if that's not the field he is going into.
When I was younger my dad took me to his building and started teaching me how to use a lathe. We built a few things with it. Later he started teaching me how to use a mill. He was a workaholic and didn't always have time, but he actually had his main machinist teach me quite a bit, and let me start working on simple projects. Years passed, and I got the "it doesn't matter if you don't know how, you need to figure it out" attitude when it came to that stuff. Even though I didn't know a lot of the higher end math, I came up with creative solutions around a lot of those problems etc..

I'll never forget one day I was in the shop and he told me "Now you can go anywhere in the world and you will always have a job." My kids will know how to manually machine, run CAD, and hopefully program a machine, not because it's the fields they may or may not enter, but I want them to be able to land anywhere in the world and be able to get a decent job. It's a great primary or fall back option.

RD
 

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The key is getting them to invest in the process so they take it seriously. Our tailboards take all of 5 minutes, and everyone including the green apprentice gets a say. The guys are on board with what we are trying to accomplish.
Can you imagine a police officer stopping to fill out a JSA on a car stop. Hire the right person and train them right and let them do the job.

My one daughter is a RN. Can not imagine her stopping the firemen from coming in the ER so she can do a JSA and risk assessment. Next time you get in your boat stop and fill out a JSA! Lots of risks.
 

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I was raised that you work for things. My parents where well off and we did glamis and the lake when growing up and still do now but my dad made us work for things. If we didn’t get good grades he would make us sit in the motorhome all weekend while he enjoyed his time. We got spanked when we where bad as well. My dad owns a construction company that both me and my brother wor for. When we started there at 18 we started as laborers. We threw lumber and stakes on the ground for the guys all day long. We do commercial jobs pouring curb and gutter and all the flat work. I’m thankful now that he made us start at the bottom cause it made our workers respect us even thought we are the boss sons we didn’t get an special treatment. I’m 28 now and run all our heavy equipment and I’m a foreman as well. The new young guys we hire amaze me they watch us work while they are on there phones. I had 2 guys in the last year who lasted 3 days on the job both guys around my age. Hard to find anyone that actually will work now a days. My uncle has 3 younger kids his oldest is 8 or 9 and they are raising them that we don’t say no to them or punish them. It amazes me how terrible his kids are. We will be in a restaurant and the kids will sit and scream bloody murder til they get what they want. I will never raise my kids that way. I have my first on the way we are having a girl and both my wife and I both have the same mindset that she will be disciplined and have consequences when she does something wrong. Life isn’t free or easy
 

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1 My mother taught me TO APPRECIATE A JOB WELL DONE.

"If you're going to kill each other, do it outside. I just finished cleaning."


2 My mother taught me RELIGION.

"You better pray that will come out of the carpet."


3 My father taught me about TIME TRAVEL.

"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!"


4 My father taught me LOGIC.

"Because I said so, that's why."


5 My mother taught me MORE LOGIC .

"If you fall out of that swing and break your neck, you're not going to the store with me."


6 My mother taught me FORESIGHT.

"Make sure you wear clean underwear, in case you're in an accident."


7 My father taught me IRONY.

"Keep crying, and I'll give you something to cry about."


8 My mother taught me about the science of OSMOSIS.

"Shut your mouth and eat your supper."


9 My mother taught me about CONTORTIONISM.

"Just you look at that dirt on the back of your neck!"


10. My mother taught me about STAMINA.

"You'll sit there until all that spinach is gone."


11. My mother taught me about WEATHER.

"This room of yours looks as if a tornado went through it."


12. My mother taught me about HYPOCRISY.

"If I told you once, I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate!"


13. My father taught me the CIRCLE OF LIFE.

"I brought you into this world, and I can take you out."


14. My mother taught me about BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION

"Stop acting like your father!"


15. My mother taught me about ENVY.

"There are millions of less fortunate children in this world who don't have wonderful parents like you do."


16.My mother taught me about ANTICIPATION.

"Just wait until we get home."


17. My mother taught me about RECEIVING.

"You are going to get it from your father when you get home!"


18. My mother taught me MEDICAL SCIENCE.

"If you don't stop crossing your eyes, they are going to get stuck that way."


19. My mother taught me ESP.

"Put your sweater on; don't you think I know when you are cold?"


20. My father taught me HUMOR.

"When that lawn mower cuts off your toes, don't come running to me."


21. My mother taught me HOW TO BECOME AN ADULT.

"If you don't eat your vegetables, you'll never grow up."


22.My mother taught me GENETICS.

"You're just like your father."


23. My mother taught me about my ROOTS.

"Shut that door behind you. Do you think you were born in a barn?"


24. My mother taught me WISDOM

"When you get to be my age, you'll understand"


25. My father taught me about JUSTICE.

"One day you'll have kids, and I hope they turn out just like you!"
 

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Exactly.
Apparently I’m a catch.
I have zero desire for any companionship right now, don’t know or care if that will ever change.
But I’m finding that females seem to find me engaging.
All ages too.
Maybe it’s just that the pool of men with jobs, cars and a little folding money is small, or full of jackasses?
Seems the single guy pool is either flatbiller or metro?

Deb used to be extremely jealous at times of other women being around me, which I found 100% comical. As I used to tell her “Deb you are the only female on earth that finds me desirable”. Maybe it doesn’t have a lot to do with looks?
The thing about you in particular is...

You are a prince. And anyone that knows your story, knows this to be true.

I'm sure it shows in your day to day life as well. You're a good man Charlie Brown...

:thumbup:
 

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I agree with a lot being said, my sons ex bought our grandsons that are 10 and 8 smart phones and he made her take them back and limits their video game playing, if not they would never put them down. Same rules at our house and tv time is monitored also. It’s all starts in all of our homes and they play sports also, we just have to keep them busy.
 

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1 My mother taught me TO APPRECIATE A JOB WELL DONE.

"If you're going to kill each other, do it outside. I just finished cleaning."


2 My mother taught me RELIGION.

"You better pray that will come out of the carpet."


3 My father taught me about TIME TRAVEL.

"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!"


4 My father taught me LOGIC.

"Because I said so, that's why."


5 My mother taught me MORE LOGIC .

"If you fall out of that swing and break your neck, you're not going to the store with me."


6 My mother taught me FORESIGHT.

"Make sure you wear clean underwear, in case you're in an accident."


7 My father taught me IRONY.

"Keep crying, and I'll give you something to cry about."


8 My mother taught me about the science of OSMOSIS.

"Shut your mouth and eat your supper."


9 My mother taught me about CONTORTIONISM.

"Just you look at that dirt on the back of your neck!"


10. My mother taught me about STAMINA.

"You'll sit there until all that spinach is gone."


11. My mother taught me about WEATHER.

"This room of yours looks as if a tornado went through it."


12. My mother taught me about HYPOCRISY.

"If I told you once, I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate!"


13. My father taught me the CIRCLE OF LIFE.

"I brought you into this world, and I can take you out."


14. My mother taught me about BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION

"Stop acting like your father!"


15. My mother taught me about ENVY.

"There are millions of less fortunate children in this world who don't have wonderful parents like you do."


16.My mother taught me about ANTICIPATION.

"Just wait until we get home."


17. My mother taught me about RECEIVING.

"You are going to get it from your father when you get home!"


18. My mother taught me MEDICAL SCIENCE.

"If you don't stop crossing your eyes, they are going to get stuck that way."


19. My mother taught me ESP.

"Put your sweater on; don't you think I know when you are cold?"


20. My father taught me HUMOR.

"When that lawn mower cuts off your toes, don't come running to me."


21. My mother taught me HOW TO BECOME AN ADULT.

"If you don't eat your vegetables, you'll never grow up."


22.My mother taught me GENETICS.

"You're just like your father."


23. My mother taught me about my ROOTS.

"Shut that door behind you. Do you think you were born in a barn?"


24. My mother taught me WISDOM

"When you get to be my age, you'll understand"


25. My father taught me about JUSTICE.

"One day you'll have kids, and I hope they turn out just like you!"
Where the hell did you find that? I'm literally crying over here...lol
 

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Thin skinned bitches need to realize things are what they are and called how they should be. Ice T's modern day version of Institutionalized explains today's society well.
 
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I remember this as a kid. I said to my mom, I got a headache. Her response, shut up or I'll give you a butt ache. Lol...
 

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Not understanding the true meaning of what allows the First Amendment via the Second. Clear this shit up fast my friends or future Generations are far at risk of losing what makes this this the Greatest Country in the World.
Use it or lose it.
 

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I just heard the other day that some MEN actually PAY other men to clean their boats!!!!
Its actually much, much worse than that, apparently

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Can we please bring back spanking our kids?
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My 4 year old daughter was acting up yesterday, we try to have zero tolerance on whining and whimpering...
Wife got up smacked my beautiful little girl in the ass and dragged her to the room... I fell in love with my wife All over again!
 

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Uuuhhhh, I never jacked off a buddy. That seems to be a pretty confused individual...but that's just my "redneck" or as Grads said "Man's Man" view.
I guess that guy is really a "Man's Man"...I don't shift anyone else's gears...kind of old school, you know, "Keep your hands to yourself" upbringing.
Its actually much, much worse than that, apparently

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Technology.

Remember the Unabomber and his manifesto? he railed on about how technology was ruining society. That was over 20 years ago I laughed at it at the time. Now I completely agree with him (not the part about sending bombs to people though!) that technology is the number one cause of social decay.

You see, technology has mode our lives so easy that we have lost sight of what is really important in life. Why do you think the Amish shun modern conveniences? It is so they are not distracted from their faith and devotion to God. Now I'm not a religious man but I understand (and admire) their thinking. No one can dispute the quality of their products, their work ethic, their values of decency and community.

Take a look at the last 100 years compared to the last 100 thousand years before that. People were pretty much the same prior to the industrial and electronic revolutions. Life was hard and you had to focus on surviving so you didn't have time for petty BS. Once technology started to make life easier we started to go down hill.

I was born in 1956, about mid century, post industrial but pre electronic revolution. My dad was born in 1927 and is of the Greatest generation. They had things tough, the depression, WWII, Korean War, but they toughed it out and made this country great. But as a result of their hard work and prosperity the following baby boomer generation started the great decline. Boomers were mostly (not all, as our family was very poor) born into middle class to affluence and had things easy. Sure, we had Viet Nam but it was nothing like WWII where almost everyone was involved in the war effort. It too was really a social issue along with protests for civil rights, women's rights, etc. I'm not saying this was wrong, just that everything else in their lives were so easy that their focus changed.

Each subsequent generation has become more distracted as technology advance until we reach the point we are at today. Sure, I love the conveniences technology provides for us but at the same time it has stripped so many of the ability to figure things out for themselves. I remember as a senior in high school the first hand held calculators came out. We loved the ability to do math just by pushing buttons. At the time the old school thinkers were saying, "pretty soon no one will be able to do math by hand". When was the last time anybody did long division? When digital watches came out they said no one will be able to look at a clock and know what time it is and now we have classes to teach that to adults. We have kids that don't know how to roll up a window in a non-power window car.

With a push of a button you can ask Suri anything and be told how to do it. This stifles creativity and the ability to figure out solutions to problems. If everything is given to you how can you be expected to do things on your own?

It also makes one devoid of a work ethic. Why work hard when you have a devise that does everything for you?
So, Boomers parents made their lives easier so they could raise their kids into an even more affluent and easy life. The cycle continued until we have the current situation.

Parents now spend so much time helicoptering their kids, making sure they get everything they want, trying to protect them from the world. This is why they are pussies. I often hear people say that their lives are all about their kids. I disagree with this thinking 100%. I believe that parents should live their lives with traditional values of hard work, treating others with decency and respect, helping others when they can, being self sufficient as possible, modesty and humility. By living like this your kids grow up watching you and learn from your actions. They learn that they are not the center of the universe.

The implementation of social programs is another factor. Big Brother is always there to take care of you with their safety net. If you want to be lazy there is a back up. If you fail there are no consequences. Generations are brought up to think that it is their right to have things provided for them. This eliminates the need to work hard and be successful.

Trying not to become political but there is one party that preys on this kind of thinking. They want people to think they are entitled to stuff they don't deserve and that the successful people should provide it for them. Obama's whole "You didn't build this" BS. Anyone that is successful is only so because they got lucky (the fortunate), others helped them along the way, they did it on the backs of the hard working employees who really deserve the rewards, etc. If you vilify the successful it makes it easier to justify taking things from them.

So to summarize (finally! :D), technology making life easier and stifling creativity and resourcefulness and over parenting has caused it. I think with proper parenting the technology negatives can be overcome. I'm going to be critical of some of you here now. I hear a lot of people talking about wanting to get out of CA and the rat race but they can't because of work, debts, and wanting to provide their kids with all the opportunities. But I ask, opportunities for what? To live the same materialistic "look at me" lifestyle? What are the real values you are teaching your kid? How is their (and your) quality of life? Sure, giving them all the latest and greatest toys and gadgets may seem great and fun but does it make them better people? Maybe forgoing some of that stuff in favor of getting them outside into situations where they have to struggle a bit to succeed would be more beneficial? Create challenges for them that are both educational and fun. Instead of buying them a new dirt bike, have then find a beat up used one and then rebuild it together. Take them mountain climbing and have them study the trail map ahead and time and then lead the way. Maybe take them off trail a bit and see if they can find their way back. They can still have their electronic crap but limit their use.

Anyway, that's my opinion and proposed solution.
 

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I was raised that you work for things. My parents where well off and we did glamis and the lake when growing up and still do now but my dad made us work for things. If we didn’t get good grades he would make us sit in the motorhome all weekend while he enjoyed his time. We got spanked when we where bad as well. My dad owns a construction company that both me and my brother wor for. When we started there at 18 we started as laborers. We threw lumber and stakes on the ground for the guys all day long. We do commercial jobs pouring curb and gutter and all the flat work. I’m thankful now that he made us start at the bottom cause it made our workers respect us even thought we are the boss sons we didn’t get an special treatment. I’m 28 now and run all our heavy equipment and I’m a foreman as well. The new young guys we hire amaze me they watch us work while they are on there phones. I had 2 guys in the last year who lasted 3 days on the job both guys around my age. Hard to find anyone that actually will work now a days. My uncle has 3 younger kids his oldest is 8 or 9 and they are raising them that we don’t say no to them or punish them. It
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Grads BFF........
amazes me how terrible his kids are. We will be in a restaurant and the kids will sit and scream bloody murder til they get what they want. I will never raise my kids that way. I have my first on the way we are having a girl and both my wife and I both have the same mindset that she will be disciplined and have consequences when she does something wrong. Life isn’t free or easy

And if you want to know what the "grown up " version of those kids is, check out gronads !!!!
 

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Uuuhhhh, I never jacked off a buddy. That seems to be a pretty confused individual...but that's just my "redneck" or as Grads said "Man's Man" view.
I guess that guy is really a "Man's Man"...I don't shift anyone else's gears...kind of old school, you know, "Keep your hands to yourself" upbringing.

Now them's some sick mofos !!!!! Jesus Christ,,, eliminate the waste !!!
 

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Technology.

Remember the Unabomber and his manifesto? he railed on about how technology was ruining society. That was over 20 years ago I laughed at it at the time. Now I completely agree with him (not the part about sending bombs to people though!) that technology is the number one cause of social decay.

You see, technology has mode our lives so easy that we have lost sight of what is really important in life. Why do you think the Amish shun modern conveniences? It is so they are not distracted from their faith and devotion to God. Now I'm not a religious man but I understand (and admire) their thinking. No one can dispute the quality of their products, their work ethic, their values of decency and community.

Take a look at the last 100 years compared to the last 100 thousand years before that. People were pretty much the same prior to the industrial and electronic revolutions. Life was hard and you had to focus on surviving so you didn't have time for petty BS. Once technology started to make life easier we started to go down hill.

I was born in 1956, about mid century, post industrial but pre electronic revolution. My dad was born in 1927 and is of the Greatest generation. They had things tough, the depression, WWII, Korean War, but they toughed it out and made this country great. But as a result of their hard work and prosperity the following baby boomer generation started the great decline. Boomers were mostly (not all, as our family was very poor) born into middle class to affluence and had things easy. Sure, we had Viet Nam but it was nothing like WWII where almost everyone was involved in the war effort. It too was really a social issue along with protests for civil rights, women's rights, etc. I'm not saying this was wrong, just that everything else in their lives were so easy that their focus changed.

Each subsequent generation has become more distracted as technology advance until we reach the point we are at today. Sure, I love the conveniences technology provides for us but at the same time it has stripped so many of the ability to figure things out for themselves. I remember as a senior in high school the first hand held calculators came out. We loved the ability to do math just by pushing buttons. At the time the old school thinkers were saying, "pretty soon no one will be able to do math by hand". When was the last time anybody did long division? When digital watches came out they said no one will be able to look at a clock and know what time it is and now we have classes to teach that to adults. We have kids that don't know how to roll up a window in a non-power window car.

With a push of a button you can ask Suri anything and be told how to do it. This stifles creativity and the ability to figure out solutions to problems. If everything is given to you how can you be expected to do things on your own?

It also makes one devoid of a work ethic. Why work hard when you have a devise that does everything for you?
So, Boomers parents made their lives easier so they could raise their kids into an even more affluent and easy life. The cycle continued until we have the current situation.

Parents now spend so much time helicoptering their kids, making sure they get everything they want, trying to protect them from the world. This is why they are pussies. I often hear people say that their lives are all about their kids. I disagree with this thinking 100%. I believe that parents should live their lives with traditional values of hard work, treating others with decency and respect, helping others when they can, being self sufficient as possible, modesty and humility. By living like this your kids grow up watching you and learn from your actions. They learn that they are not the center of the universe.

The implementation of social programs is another factor. Big Brother is always there to take care of you with their safety net. If you want to be lazy there is a back up. If you fail there are no consequences. Generations are brought up to think that it is their right to have things provided for them. This eliminates the need to work hard and be successful.

Trying not to become political but there is one party that preys on this kind of thinking. They want people to think they are entitled to stuff they don't deserve and that the successful people should provide it for them. Obama's whole "You didn't build this" BS. Anyone that is successful is only so because they got lucky (the fortunate), others helped them along the way, they did it on the backs of the hard working employees who really deserve the rewards, etc. If you vilify the successful it makes it easier to justify taking things from them.

So to summarize (finally! :D), technology making life easier and stifling creativity and resourcefulness and over parenting has caused it. I think with proper parenting the technology negatives can be overcome. I'm going to be critical of some of you here now. I hear a lot of people talking about wanting to get out of CA and the rat race but they can't because of work, debts, and wanting to provide their kids with all the opportunities. But I ask, opportunities for what? To live the same materialistic "look at me" lifestyle? What are the real values you are teaching your kid? How is their (and your) quality of life? Sure, giving them all the latest and greatest toys and gadgets may seem great and fun but does it make them better people? Maybe forgoing some of that stuff in favor of getting them outside into situations where they have to struggle a bit to succeed would be more beneficial? Create challenges for them that are both educational and fun. Instead of buying them a new dirt bike, have then find a beat up used one and then rebuild it together. Take them mountain climbing and have them study the trail map ahead and time and then lead the way. Maybe take them off trail a bit and see if they can find their way back. They can still have their electronic crap but limit their use.

Anyway, that's my opinion and proposed solution.
Kids and adults these days take many things for granted. I know people that eat out 5-6 nights a week, buy lunch at work and get a burritto every morning on their way to work, yet complain about money. My generation is horrible about buying what they could make or do. They say "I don't have the time". Too busy working, to pay for stuff they could do. Sure, there are things that need training, or specialty tools, but not everything. The average kid from big cities only knows mountains for skiing. They couldn't find their way to a trail if it wasn't cleared. Kids know of horses from riding lessons or the race track, most couldn't pick a hoof though. Kids play first person shooter games, but don't know anything about guns, let alone gun safety. People need more time doing things, less time talking about BS, or watching other people do things.
 
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