What If Harris? | A Dinner Party

[Sportin' Wood]

Sorry if the mods feel this needs to go to dungeon, it is not really a political post, but some may feel differently, participate if you are comfortable. I'm not really looking for a response, but more to make inmates stop and consider.

Last night the Wife and I attended a dinner party with about a dozen couples from the local community. They meet every Friday night for a dinner and cocktails social event. We've been invited many times and I normally say no. The Wife would like to socialize, I would rather stay home and be a hermit; she won the debate.

The couples are a mix of business owners, local politicians, or retired. All seem upper income, all seem about 10 years older or more than us. We knew only two couples from the Elks. All are pretty well connected and the women are equally if not more engaging in social topics and are well educated. One woman I spent time speaking with had owned a fairly large national IT company. These IMHO are successful, intelligent and rational people. The common denominator was that they are all unashamed and vocal Conservatives. That sets the stage for the topics of conversation. Current events, locally, nationally and globally. Keep in mind we are in a region where there are not many Liberals.

It was what I imagine a dinner party should be. Gin and tonics, wine, and bourbon, neat. Except the guy who was a Rancher and came to Montana in 1969, he drank PBR.

The first 20 minutes was an interrogation to see if we were worthy of the conversation, we held our own and quickly found acceptance as we have experience speaking Conservative Boomer.

The topic I thought worth your consideration was "What if Harris Wins?"
The response swung from the cleaning of firearms to the movement of money. I really don't think people who have been hunting for 40+ years need to worry much in Rural America about a zombie apocalypse, but there was certainly some ego stroking concerning collections of various weaponry, stockpiles of consumables and the skill of operation had by the male portion of the group. I'm certain some of ladies outperform the men.

I truly hope we are not burdened by what has been, but it is a topic we as a couple have given much thought. To be honest, I'm not entirely comfortable sharing anything from those conversation on a public forum, even with an alias, but it is worth sharing and safe to say, that those couples also had given it much thought.

The thing that struck me, was this is a questions others had considered in detail, not just a passing "we are fucked" but a genuine strategic consideration for personal finance, outward cultural perception, travel and personal preparation for supply chain disruption. It was also generally agreed upon that smart democrats likely also are having the same conversations about "What if Trump?"

I found it equally as interesting that when you strip away the amplified voices, that quietly people are making decisions based on the political winds. No matter if they are favorable, or unpleasant. It was also generally agreed that next week is going to be a shit show and that we should all be prepared for a wild ride. Like many I feel this may be the most important election of our lifetime. The die has been cast for us, we voted two weeks ago. We've never been so consumed with an election and we yearn for a return to normal. The problem, based on last night's conversations is that the election sadly won't settle the divide in our country. It will likely accelerate outward hostility.

With any luck, paranoia will not become preparation and this all settles back into the oblivious comfort of easy money, convenience and good times.

But have you considered; What if Harris?

 

[Romans9]

Wow, that would be something. For once the power will have been wrested from the fascists hand and delivered to a unique individual with a humble background that through hard work and devotion finally accomplished their life‘s dream of sacrificial service to the country they have always loved and cherished……

 

[J&k beer can]

That's funny u mention this..
We had decision last night over drinks n food about the up coming event..
Some of the group are voting left side ( work for state and school district.) Askd ny BiI after why that is.. he said the union pushes voting that way. These people have about a 1-2 to retire so i dont think they care..
Its everyone's choice to pick what they want but we are fucked if that giggling dumb f wins..

 

[Bobbyv]

Well we conservatives could speak like the liberals did when Trump won in 16 and scream that we are all moving to the north pole right?? But they were lying as usual and no one left the country, which is a shame lol.
Like most of the level headed conservatives will do is try to make the best of it but not like it one bit, mainly because we disagree with Kamala with all our being.
Lets pray to God that Trump takes the election by large numbers to prevent what the libs hava planned just in case their very unqualified candiadte loses
GO TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[WYRD]

In all honesty, I would likely get out of bed, pull on the same old blue jeans, tuck my shirt in, grab a ball cap and head into work. Won't be much different than any other Wednesday . Sure it would likely add a few more years to our long-term retirement plan due to the fact that their policy would spread the wealth amongst the lower classes that refuse to work for it themselves. All of which is likely to be paid for by higher tax rates on the upper class that trickles down. As a business owner it's likely there would be more liberal policies leading to less tax cuts, more fees and regulations, all of which directly lead to lower profits. Taxes would also raise on investments for capital gains so I expect the stock market would have a pretty significant pullback, leading to less money in our 401ks and brokerage accounts.

Due to the above and the fact that I would probably be seeing her cackling face on the news more often, I would become slightly more of a crotchety old man than I already am. My complaining would increase to those in my inner circle but hey, I would have earned that right since I'll be turning in my vote to try to make a difference in liberal CA on Tuesday.

 

[callbob]

My feeling is that it really doesn’t matter who wins in the long run nothing will change as long as we have money sucking career crooks in charge of congress and senate. We as a country, need term limits. I voted for Trump btw. I also voted no on anything that had to do with raising taxes. Let these fuckers do what I have to do and live within my means. Never happen but needs to happen.

 

[DRYHEAT]

What we have always done, keep on living and doing what we need to do for our own personal situation.

 

[Havasu blue label]

My feeling is that it really doesn’t matter who wins in the long run nothing will change as long as we have money sucking career crooks in charge of congress and senate. We as a country, need term limits. I voted for Trump btw. I also voted no on anything that had to do with raising taxes. Let these fuckers do what I have to do and live within my means. Never happen but needs to happen.

You are correct

 

[samsah33]

Same as others, get out of bed, put on my jorts one leg at a time and do right by my family and my God, same as I've been doing for more than 50 years. It's a strategy that's worked well for me so far.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

My feeling is that it really doesn’t matter who wins in the long run nothing will change as long as we have money sucking career crooks in charge of congress and senate. We as a country, need term limits. I voted for Trump btw. I also voted no on anything that had to do with raising taxes. Let these fuckers do what I have to do and live within my means. Never happen but needs to happen.

I took the same approach down ballot. I voted no to pretty much any attempt at new laws or taxes.

Same as others, get out of bed, put on my jorts one leg at a time and do right by my family and my God, same as I've been doing for more than 50 years. It's a strategy that's worked well for me so far.

What we have always done, keep on living and doing what we need to do for our own personal situation.

I can't help but think of John Galt's speech In Atlas Shrugged. I tend to think we found our own little Gulch to hide in

Condensed version for those unfamiliar Ayn Rand and the Atlas Shrugged Story. I think others might relate.

For twelve years you've been asking "Who is John Galt?" This is John Galt speaking. I'm the man who's taken away your victims and thus destroyed your world. You've heard it said that this is an age of moral crisis and that Man's sins are destroying the world. But your chief virtue has been sacrifice, and you've demanded more sacrifices at every disaster. You've sacrificed justice to mercy and happiness to duty. So why should you be afraid of the world around you?

Your world is only the product of your sacrifices. While you were dragging the men who made your happiness possible to your sacrificial altars, I beat you to it. I reached them first and told them about the game you were playing and where it would take them. I explained the consequences of your 'brother-love' morality, which they had been too innocently generous to understand. You won't find them now, when you need them more than ever.

We're on strike against your creed of unearned rewards and unrewarded duties. If you want to know how I made them quit, I told them exactly what I'm telling you tonight. I taught them the morality of Reason – that it was right to pursue one's own happiness as one's principal goal in life. I don't consider the pleasure of others my goal in life, nor do I consider my pleasure the goal of anyone else's life.

I am a trader. I earn what I get in trade for what I produce. I ask for nothing more or nothing less than what I earn. That is justice. I don't force anyone to trade with me; I only trade for mutual benefit. Force is the great evil that has no place in a rational world. One may never force another human to act against his/her judgment. If you deny a man's right to Reason, you must also deny your right to your own judgment. Yet you have allowed your world to be run by means of force, by men who claim that fear and joy are equal incentives, but that fear and force are more practical.

You've allowed such men to occupy positions of power in your world by preaching that all men are evil from the moment they're born. When men believe this, they see nothing wrong in acting in any way they please. The name of this absurdity is 'original sin'. That's inmpossible. That which is outside the possibility of choice is also outside the province of morality. To call sin that which is outside man's choice is a mockery of justice. To say that men are born with a free will but with a tendency toward evil is ridiculous. If the tendency is one of choice, it doesn't come at birth. If it is not a tendency of choice, then man's will is not free.

And then there's your 'brother-love' morality. Why is it moral to serve others, but not yourself? If enjoyment is a value, why is it moral when experienced by others, but not by you? Why is it immoral to produce something of value and keep it for yourself, when it is moral for others who haven't earned it to accept it? If it's virtuous to give, isn't it then selfish to take?

Your acceptance of the code of selflessness has made you fear the man who has a dollar less than you because it makes you feel that that dollar is rightfully his. You hate the man with a dollar more than you because the dollar he's keeping is rightfully yours. Your code has made it impossible to know when to give and when to grab.

You know that you can't give away everything and starve yourself. You've forced yourselves to live with undeserved, irrational guilt. Is it ever proper to help another man? No, if he demands it as his right or as a duty that you owe him. Yes, if it's your own free choice based on your judgment of the value of that person and his struggle. This country wasn't built by men who sought handouts. In its brilliant youth, this country showed the rest of the world what greatness was possible to Man and what happiness is possible on Earth.

Then it began apologizing for its greatness and began giving away its wealth, feeling guilty for having produced more than its neighbors. Twelve years ago, I saw what was wrong with the world and where the battle for Life had to be fought. I saw that the enemy was an inverted morality and that my acceptance of that morality was its only power. I was the first of the men who refused to give up the pursuit of his own happiness in order to serve others.

To those of you who retain some remnant of dignity and the will to live your lives for yourselves, you have the chance to make the same choice. Examine your values and understand that you must choose one side or the other. Any compromise between good and evil only hurts the good and helps the evil.

If you've understood what I've said, stop supporting your destroyers. Don't accept their philosophy. Your destroyers hold you by means of your endurance, your generosity, your innocence, and your love. Don't exhaust yourself to help build the kind of world that you see around you now. In the name of the best within you, don't sacrifice the world to those who will take away your happiness for it.

The world will change when you are ready to pronounce this oath:
I swear by my Life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man,
nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine.

Text courtesy of Daryl J. Sroufe

 

[Looking Glass]

What a way to spend an evening.

 

[whiteworks]

 

[regor]

 

[Englewood]

If she wins I’m liquidating the real estate I have asap. The markets are expecting Trump to win.

This country will be a shell of what it was with 4 more years of her incompetence. She will spend her time avoiding key issues and campaigning for the 2nd term.

 

[monkeyswrench]

I'm more or less a hermit. I'm lucky, in the people I do cross paths with tend to be more "right" leaning. Honestly though, I rarely tend to speak of politics with them.

The outcome of the election is on my mind, for many reasons. Some only worry of the economy. Some only worry of the illegals, or crime. For the most part, I only worry currently about the reaction of the people to the actual election. The sad truth is many on both sides are spewing hate, and one sides leader is spewing lies.

This week, I'm supposed to go to Tucson. The response to the election may change that, as Tucson is a different kind of area, and the other side of a major metropolitan area.

My immediate worry isn't who wins, but how we the people respond. The long term worries incurred include sourcing backup supplies for meds here, but ran short on time to get them beforehand. We live far enough out to avoid any immediate fuckery, but the long term events are definitely questionable.

 

[Andy B.]

I'm more or less a hermit. I'm lucky, in the people I do cross paths with tend to be more "right" leaning. Honestly though, I rarely tend to speak of politics with them.

The outcome of the election is on my mind, for many reasons. Some only worry of the economy. Some only worry of the illegals, or crime. For the most part, I only worry currently about the reaction of the people to the actual election. The sad truth is many on both sides are spewing hate, and one sides leader is spewing lies.

This week, I'm supposed to go to Tucson. The response to the election may change that, as Tucson is a different kind of area, and the other side of a major metropolitan area.

My immediate worry isn't who wins, but how we the people respond. The long term worries incurred include sourcing backup supplies for meds here, but ran short on time to get them beforehand. We live far enough out to avoid any immediate fuckery, but the long term events are definitely questionable.

Well has history shows no need to worry about conservatives but the democrats will Amp up antifa and blm if Trump wins.
When is the last time you heard from antifa or blm??? Just proves it's scumbag dems liberals and rhinos backing these fucks!!!!

 

[2Driver]

The sun will still rise if Harris wins but when it comes to the country, it will feel like seeing a former boat you restored sitting out in a field.

 

[RVR SWPR]

Many generations of all countries have created and experienced history being made not realizing they themselves are the creators of history no matter the issue.
Exactly what happening in the United States right now today. We will not need wait very long for our history to be written. If Soros / Harris / Walz and all the other morons win election Tuesday 11/5/24 we are fucked. All the years of incredible accomplishment will have been a waste. Tuesday is it folks buckle up.

 

[TPC]

Our biggest concerns are the Democrats keep public Lands from the people - not for the people.
Runaway deficits that Trump might address. Read that: Might, you can rest assured the Democrats never will.

Kamalcoholic will double down on failure.

 

[mjc]

If not for soooo many more illegals coming in not much will really change in my mind. If we get rep house with a Senate majority I can see some things getting better.

 

[TPC]

The sun will still rise if Harris wins but when it comes to the country, it will feel like seeing a former boat you restored sitting out in a field.

,,, with no steering wheel.

 

[530RL]

Beginning in the early 70’s with Nixon, America and other western developed countries started on a path away from industrialization and towards an economy with growth driven by knowledge and service skills. It really accelerated in the 80’s under Reagan and the technological renaissance as well as the conservative belief in trickle down economics.

This transition raised developed countries national economies and standards of living greatly, unfortunately a measurable result of this was that those with specialized educational skills were much more highly compensated than those who continued with industrial skills. Corporate high rises and tech facilities flourished, factories closed. The income gap widened to record levels not seen since the early 1900’s. America was becoming richer overall, but many were not participating.

So here we are today. The macro economic numbers are pretty good but not everyone is participating in it. As a result, a chunk of the country likes this economy as they are doing very well, and the other chunk really hates it and is being left behind. The most interesting recent statistic to me was that the gap between college educated women and non-college educated men is 43% in which party they support and who they vote for. That is a record gap. A bunch of people are angry about their lot in life, especially relative to many around them.

This economic conundrum is a profound problem that is not easily solved despite the promises we see forty times a day in ads. And no matter what policy is employed, there will be vast winners and losers. Incoming policy makers have a hard row to hoe. There is no free lunch.

No matter who wins the election, half the country isn’t going to be onboard.

 

[clark]

I'm 80 years old and my greatest fear are all the illegal border jumpers, believe it or not, not all of them love AMERICA, there is currently more that 20,000 military age chinese males in our country most of which are living on land boardering our military bases. There are also many millions of other people that hate out country, my fear is for my childern and grand childern, I love this country and fly the AMERICAN FLAG 24/7/365 and will stop anybody that trys to FUCK WITH IT!!!

 

[clarence]

https://www.amazon.com/Enjoy-Decline-Accepting-Living-United/dp/1480284769/

 

[DILLIGAF]

It is going to be interesting to see what unfolds next week. I am prepared as well as I can be. Food, power, water, etc.

If it gets real crazy it starts in the cities and hopeully it stays there.

I wont be out looking for any problems and will as I have stated...protect me and mine. Thats all we can do if it goes completely sideways.

 

[regor]

Beginning in the early 70’s with Nixon, America and other western developed countries started on a path away from industrialization and towards an economy with growth driven by knowledge and service skills. It really accelerated in the 80’s under Reagan and the technological renaissance as well as the conservative belief in trickle down economics.

This transition raised developed countries national economies and standards of living greatly, unfortunately a measurable result of this was that those with specialized educational skills were much more highly compensated than those who continued with industrial skills. Corporate high rises and tech facilities flourished, factories closed. The income gap widened to record levels not seen since the early 1900’s. America was becoming richer overall, but many were not participating.

So here we are today. The macro economic numbers are pretty good but not everyone is participating in it. As a result, a chunk of the country likes this economy as they are doing very well, and the other chunk really hates it and is being left behind. The most interesting recent statistic to me was that the gap between college educated women and non-college educated men is 43% in which party they support and who they vote for. That is a record gap. A bunch of people are angry about their lot in life, especially relative to many around them.

This economic conundrum is a profound problem that is not easily solved despite the promises we see forty times a day in ads. And no matter what policy is employed, there will be vast winners and losers. Incoming policy makers have a hard row to hoe. There is no free lunch.

No matter who wins the election, half the country isn’t going to be onboard.

THIS is why a chunk of society is doing well.

to the detriment of future generations.


Without guberment fiat spending, very few would be doing well. It’s a f’ing ponzi scheme.

Bunch of damn crooks!

 

[TPC]

The Harris blush wore off fast. DNC was high on it's own supply for 15 minutes. Now:

"The selection of Walz is the first reason Harris lost momentum. To be sure, much of the party — and many in the liberal media — wanted Harris to pick the more moderate Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro — first because the Keystone State was certain to be the most pivotal in the election, and second because Shapiro would have added some ideological balance to the ticket.

By any honest analysis, Harris is a far-left liberal. That said, it can be argued that Walz is even further to the left than she is. Leaving aside the practical reasons Harris should have picked a more moderate running mate is the reality that self-described “knucklehead” Walz has been a liability from day one.

The choice of Walz yoked Harris to all of his baggage — his exaggerations of his military record; his DUI arrest, which involved him driving 96 miles per hour with a 0.128 percent blood alcohol content; his multiple visits to China and associations with communist officials; his fabrication that he was in Hong Kong on the day of the Tiananmen Square massacre when he was actually in Nebraska; his being turned into an “Elmer Fudd” meme because of his comical handling of a shotgun; and his being the governor who allowed violent anarchists to run wild and burn down parts of Minneapolis.

To add insult to injury, Trump running mate Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) clearly trounced the obviously nervous and unprepared Walz during their vice presidential debate on Oct. 10.

The second decision that greatly contributed to the crushing of the Harris momentum came on Aug. 23, when Robert F. Kennedy Jr. suspended his independent campaign for president and endorsed former President Donald Trump.

The timing of the announcement could not have been worse for Harris or her campaign. The Kennedy announcement, the very day after her convention ended, sucked a great deal of helium out of her joy-filled message and polling bounce.

But again, the damage was much worse than just stepping on the high of her convention. The biased opinions of the liberal media and the Democratic Party aside, Kennedy is deeply respected by millions of Americans who view him as a principled, highly intelligent original thinker who will fight for their causes against the corrupt entrenched establishments.

The day Kennedy dropped out of the race and endorsed Trump, Politico reported that “Kennedy’s unorthodox views drew support from Democrats and Republicans. Both parties worried that he would be the biggest electoral spoiler in decades. The presidential election remains incredibly close, and if even a fraction of Kennedy’s support moves to Trump, it could be decisive in swing states.”

Indeed. But I believe it’s going to be a great deal more than just a “fraction.” One of the main reasons is the “mom vote.” Kennedy’s endorsement will potentially bring millions of previously ambivalent female voters to the table for Trump. Why? Because they are moms who are worried about the health and wellbeing of their children and have long believed that Kennedy was one of the few people in public life who would protect those children. This is a much bigger deal than the media realizes or will acknowledge. It is a real game changer.

Toward that end, these moms want Trump to win so he will bring Kennedy into his cabinet —which Trump will undoubtedly do.

Harris may have been a flawed candidate from the beginning, but she was building some momentum after being installed as the Democratic nominee on July 21. That momentum proved fleeting. It was extinguished by her decision to pick Walz and Kennedy’s decision to suspend his campaign and endorse Trump."
- From liberal spin media "The Hill."

 

[TPC]

I'm 80 years old and my greatest fear are all the illegal border jumpers, believe it or not, not all of them love AMERICA, there is currently more that 20,000 military age chinese males in our country most of which are living on land boardering our military bases. There are also many millions of other people that hate out country, my fear is for my childern and grand childern, I love this country and fly the AMERICAN FLAG 24/7/365 and will stop anybody that trys to FUCK WITH IT!!!

Corrupt win at any cost Lawyers running the Democrat party allowing 20 million illegals in that will undoubtably vote the something for nothing promise Democrat party in the next election. This may be the last free election the USA ever sees.
Even Bill Clinton says they have to go.

 

[Xring01]

I will chime in…

I am a conservative on pretty much everything. Abortion is one I am pro choice on, and would like to laws stop late term abortions. If Dems would allow the citizens to truly talk that thru, I think a consensus could be reached on exactly what is considered “late”.

Why did I share that, because even though I am a self described conservative, I am not a fan of Trump for lots of reasons. Most are very obvious to most of you. The key one is: His Ego… I can keep going. But IMHO, the key thing any sitting president of the US must understand is that the office of the presidency is more important than the President. Trump will never understand that.

In reference to the overall topic/thread. I am fairly confident that Trump will win.

I really dont think a whole lot will change. Trump will try to get us out of wars, but as you guys have seen in Afghanistan withdrawal. Thats alot more difficult than most imagine, and it takes alot of time. I hope he finish’s the wall, and figure out a deportation process. But the dem judges will slow that way down.

The key thing regardless of Dem/Rep win… They will both continue deficit spending at unprecedented levels. Something has to be done with the National Debt, or INFLATION WILL KILL THIS COUNTRY, not Chinese, Iran, North K etc… Our own dumb ass politicians will do it for them.

To me, thats a topic thats not being discussed enough.
A huge factor of Inflation is Gov Spending. I believe thats pretty much a fact. If you think I am wrong, please convince me other wise.
Trump’s first term even before CV was massive spending, I believe his second term will be the same.

So when you look at one of the key reasons why the Replicans has a chance to win President, House & Senate, because the average voter is pissed off about their grocery bills, cost of energy, cost of housing etc etc… Trump only plan to help in those regards is “Fracking”, and that will help the cost of gas/diesel, which can have a small impact on the overall cost of goods, but what is he going to do about National Spending?????????????????????

Unless we address that, the average swing voter will switch back to Dem in 4 years.

Now is the time to focus on the longer game… I dont see that happening at this time. Which is very disappointing.

If the Rep take full control… I hope to god they pass a bill that Only Citizens can vote.. If they dont do that, I will be pissed.

 

[Ragged Edge]

Sorry if the mods feel this needs to go to dungeon, it is not really a political post, but some may feel differently, participate if you are comfortable. I'm not really looking for a response, but more to make inmates stop and consider.

Last night the Wife and I attended a dinner party with about a dozen couples from the local community. They meet every Friday night for a dinner and cocktails social event. We've been invited many times and I normally say no. The Wife would like to socialize, I would rather stay home and be a hermit; she won the debate.

The couples are a mix of business owners, local politicians, or retired. All seem upper income, all seem about 10 years older or more than us. We knew only two couples from the Elks. All are pretty well connected and the women are equally if not more engaging in social topics and are well educated. One woman I spent time speaking with had owned a fairly large national IT company. These IMHO are successful, intelligent and rational people. The common denominator was that they are all unashamed and vocal Conservatives. That sets the stage for the topics of conversation. Current events, locally, nationally and globally. Keep in mind we are in a region where there are not many Liberals.

It was what I imagine a dinner party should be. Gin and tonics, wine, and bourbon, neat. Except the guy who was a Rancher and came to Montana in 1969, he drank PBR.

The first 20 minutes was an interrogation to see if we were worthy of the conversation, we held our own and quickly found acceptance as we have experience speaking Conservative Boomer.

The topic I thought worth your consideration was "What if Harris Wins?"
The response swung from the cleaning of firearms to the movement of money. I really don't think people who have been hunting for 40+ years need to worry much in Rural America about a zombie apocalypse, but there was certainly some ego stroking concerning collections of various weaponry, stockpiles of consumables and the skill of operation had by the male portion of the group. I'm certain some of ladies outperform the men.

I truly hope we are not burdened by what has been, but it is a topic we as a couple have given much thought. To be honest, I'm not entirely comfortable sharing anything from those conversation on a public forum, even with an alias, but it is worth sharing and safe to say, that those couples also had given it much thought.

The thing that struck me, was this is a questions others had considered in detail, not just a passing "we are fucked" but a genuine strategic consideration for personal finance, outward cultural perception, travel and personal preparation for supply chain disruption. It was also generally agreed upon that smart democrats likely also are having the same conversations about "What if Trump?"

I found it equally as interesting that when you strip away the amplified voices, that quietly people are making decisions based on the political winds. No matter if they are favorable, or unpleasant. It was also generally agreed that next week is going to be a shit show and that we should all be prepared for a wild ride. Like many I feel this may be the most important election of our lifetime. The die has been cast for us, we voted two weeks ago. We've never been so consumed with an election and we yearn for a return to normal. The problem, based on last night's conversations is that the election sadly won't settle the divide in our country. It will likely accelerate outward hostility.

With any luck, paranoia will not become preparation and this all settles back into the oblivious comfort of easy money, convenience and good times.

But have you considered; What if Harris?

Smart Democrats? They have those?

 

[Tom Slick]

My prediction is if Trump wins he will not see the Oval Office in January. The train has left the station and the destination to New World Order is the final destination. The train can't and won't be stopped and the machine will not allow a Trump presidency to take over for another four years. No matter who wins next week, the civil unrest will begin. The free food, shelter, healthcare etc. for the 20 million illegals that crossed out border will come to an abrupt stop and they will come looking for your pantry. Shit is going to hit the fan in this country and perhaps around the world. I hope I'm wrong and eat crow over this post, but I don't see another way. Get your house in order this weekend, because the clock is ticking.

 

[clark]

Corrupt win at any cost Lawyers running the Democrat party allowing 20 million illegals in that will undoubtably vote the something for nothing promise Democrat party in the next election. This may be the last free election the USA ever sees.
Even Bill Clinton says they have to go.

time to lock/load

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Stop worrying about who is President. They aren't kings (or queens).

Worry about who is in Congress and fix that if you don't like it.

Far more is done (or not) at the Congressional level than will ever be done by a president, and that is by design.

If the R could own the house and Senate the Prez would be the least of your concerns.

 

[Todd Mohr]

Modern presidents write a lot of executive orders, seems like way more than in the past.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Stopped in this morning to a little shop that writes paper receipts for the items you purchase when you pay cash and have a specific license. The owner proprietor a petite woman with a friendly smile and a wicked understanding of her business, said she was going to busy Monday and Tuesday fulfilling all the special orders that she had placed in advance of the election. I said she might be busy next week depending on the outcome of the elections, she laughed and said, I've been busy for months. Her customers are not waiting for Tuesday. There were boxes stacked to the ceiling at the back of the store.

Feeling thankful that we live in Rural America. Gonna become John Galt and Dangy Taggart if next week goes bad. We'll just melt into the shadows of this mountain.

 

[whiteworks]

I don’t see much of anything changing regardless of who wins. We may see a little flair up of civil unrest by a small faction on the far fringes of which ever side looses, but it will be short lived as that’s a lot of work to put in day in and day out. The world is just as crazy of a place as it’s ever been, no more, no less.

 

[Havasu blue label]

Just another day of work

 

[Orange Juice]

Every democrat since Bill Clinton, I’ve made great returns, on all my assets. Gold, Silver, and stocks.

 

[RiverDave]

If she wins I’m liquidating the real estate I have asap. The markets are expecting Trump to win.

This country will be a shell of what it was with 4 more years of her incompetence. She will spend her time avoiding key issues and campaigning for the 2nd term.

I think this is a complete mistake.. I’d wager they print money like it’s going out of style driving inflation even harder.. if that happens then tangible assets are the only thing that’s gonna matter.

RD

 

[DILLIGAF]

 

[Roosky01]

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I’ll take things that never happened for $600, Alex…

 

[whiteworks]

I think this is a complete mistake.. I’d wager they print money like it’s going out of style driving inflation even harder.. if that happens then tangible assets are the only thing that’s gonna matter.

RD

100% correct, more so whichever of these clowns wins this will still be correct. The basis of all wealth is land, even more land that paid for free and clear

 

[Roosky01]

100% correct, more so whichever of these clowns wins this will still be correct. The basis of all wealth is land, even more land that paid for free and clear

Until you get the overly inflated tax bill. They will tax your assets until you redistribute them. Rinse/Repeat. You will own nothing and enjoy it….peasant.

 

[Dettom]

Trump has reinvented the Republican Party. I think even hardcore democrats (and I know some) are beginning to admit to themselves at least, that Harris is possibly the worst candidate to come along in 50 years. The shift to hard left craziness is starting to wear thin, even among ardent lefties. The "woke" DEI ideology has lost its appeal and things are starting to turn around. I believe Tuesdays election will underscore this. The hold the Obama's and the Clintons had on the party has also run its course. And I think we will see a run on Kleenex on Wednesday, because they're going to need lots of crying towels.

 

[Mack]

Y’all must go to the democratic socialist web site believe you can go back to when Biden was elected and look at what he wanted to accomplish. Then look at the few things not accomplished those will scare you to death if she is elected. Some of pointers are being accomplished like reducing irrgation water, and take private property. Just because it is not in the news everyday it is happening, have y’all heard of the national park in the planhandle of Texas for sand hill cranes and prairie chicken, crazy amount of land being taken but quietly search how feds are offering to pay land owners below market value. Land owners told to take it or be forced out by regulations preventing ranching or farming and your tax bill will force you to go broke due to no income production allowed threw regulations

 

[TPC]

 

[RVR SWPR]

My prediction is if Trump wins he will not see the Oval Office in January. The train has left the station and the destination to New World Order is the final destination. The train can't and won't be stopped and the machine will not allow a Trump presidency to take over for another four years. No matter who wins next week, the civil unrest will begin. The free food, shelter, healthcare etc. for the 20 million illegals that crossed out border will come to an abrupt stop and they will come looking for your pantry. Shit is going to hit the fan in this country and perhaps around the world. I hope I'm wrong and eat crow over this post, but I don't see another way. Get your house in order this weekend, because the clock is ticking.

Next Wednesday November 6,2024 Trump will assume many responsibilities of President of the United States. The mid east situation alone requires Trump step up immediately. WTF,just this morning Iran has threatened direct conflict with United States.
January 20,2025 inauguration will be just a necessary formality. Next Wednesday the beginning of 12 years of common sense.

 

[Gelcoater]

I know a NeverTrump guy who has changed his tune purely on the fact Iran has entered the arena with Israel
Talking on the phone the other day he says “I kinda hope he wins now.
Those goat fuckers have no respect for women. If we get a female President at this point? We are fucked.”

 

[regor]

For everyone who says it doesn’t matter who wins, things remain the same, try saying that to the face of the parents or loved ones who’ve been rape and/or murdered by the illegal aliens who were allowed to flood this nation over the last 4 years.

 

[monkeyswrench]

For everyone who says it doesn’t matter who wins, things remain the same, try saying that to the face of the parents or loved ones who’ve been rape and/or murdered by the illegal aliens who were allowed to flood this nation over the last 4 years.

Not only them, parents of soldiers that have already faced cuts in materials and gear. Any leader that will cut back on domestic military spending only to piss it away for others should be locked up. Spoke with the parents of a current SEAL yesterday...that was an eyeopener