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Needless to say Vegas is totally different now.... and not really liking the change that's occurring.. I was born and raised in La Puente, cruised whitter and Legg Lake, partied in norwalk, El Sereno.... I understand lots of forms of ghetto..
This weekend was by far a disappointment...
Impromptu DJs for families/cultural crowds.. People walking around with Bottles of liquor... with no shame in taking Señor Frog style shots in front of families, general public, intruding on personal space.... and the..... POT... WTF ... I get it...its decriminalized, but its like having someone smoke a cigar while next to you at the bar.. just choking me while I'm trying to have a good time.. maybe because I'm 46 and my perception is changing... but seeing a family of 6 people passing a blunt in front of 3 elderly people while waiting for their car at valet, is not my experience with Vegas.. ill take the titty cards being passed to a 12 yr old in front of a priest any day...


Ok.. rant over...



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I am really objetive in my opinions....

But with the whole POT deal .. it definitely brings out the stigmatized population...and rightly so.

Only 2 type of cultures were smoking pot...

1 was 80% of the smokers
The other 20%... my mind is still blown....


NOT all pot smokers are lumped into this... Just a majority of them...[emoji38] [emoji1787] [emoji23]


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guessing it’ll be 10x worse with the next round of free money

i catch the frontier flights from austin to LAS to go down to havasu...for most of the last year the flights have been the cream of the crop when it comes to trashiness. Next round of the "free crack giveaway" will double it down. At least its cheap.....
 

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We went in Early September, observed the same. Place was filthy too and most things like chairs, seating and decorations in public areas were destroyed.
 

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Bummer to hear this.
How is Laughlin doing? . . . I love that place. What do you guys think is gonna happen there?
 

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Traffic sucked balls today, wasn’t bad from Cc to LV but after LV to Barstow Suck dick . I was running with a pack can’t believe no wreaks trying to move up 1 car 🤬 , I stopped in Baker to get out of it .
 

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Vegas needs to get back to normal Vegas prices. I don't want to pay it but I will to keep it a little more clean with less trash (people and actual trash).

I heard a story from people that were checking in at the Wynn last summer and a couple checking in had all of their travel items... in trash bags.

As I get older, I'm starting to realize why it is attractive to spend a little more money on houses, trips, etc. than you probably should. Because as you go down in income brackets, people on average spend more and more recklessly. For example, trashiest people I've ever been around at an event... first 10 rows at a Chargers game. I thought I spent a lot on tickets for my income... boy was I wrong.

People will spend a weeks check on something, while you'll only spend a days check (or less). It's tough to outspend riff raff that have zero financial responsibility.
 

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Traffic sucked balls today, wasn’t bad from Cc to LV but after LV to Barstow Suck dick . I was running with a pack can’t believe no wreaks trying to move up 1 car [emoji2959] , I stopped in Baker to get out of it .
From primm to golf course sucked!

Then from Victorville to 138 was even worse.. matched my weekend!

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Bummer. Heading there next weekend to golf Primm both Sat and Sun while staying in Vegas overnight.
 

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Want to know the history of discrimination and how it comes about? See the posts in exhibit A above lol.

It's hard to build up a good reputation and very easy to destroy it. Many people are too stupid to understand that.
 
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Yeah, it's been mentioned... But Vegas will remain to get even shittier until the prices go back up. Stupid cheap at the moment compared to what it used to be and that will bring on the ghetto culture.
 

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I always used to chuckle at the Vegas crowds. You would see ppl spend big money in the clubs, dress up in expensive clothing, gamble decent money and try to live the fantasy high life...


But come Sunday morning they would pile into a 30 year old beater car and head back to their little apartments to start their Monday morning work week at some dismal barely above minimum wage jobs.

I really don't mean to sound like a snooty dickhead, but I just never understood trying to be something your not.

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Felt the same way 5 years ago how the strip was
 

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I always used to chuckle at the Vegas crowds. You would see ppl spend big money in the clubs, dress up in expensive clothing, gamble decent money and try to live the fantasy high life...


But come Sunday morning they would pile into a 30 year old beater car and head back to their little apartments to start their Monday morning work week at some dismal barely above minimum wage jobs.

I really don't mean to sound like a snooty dickhead, but I just never understood trying to be something your not.

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Look Around!! 🤔
 

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Needless to say Vegas is totally different now.... and not really liking the change that's occurring.. I was born and raised in La Puente, cruised whitter and Legg Lake, partied in norwalk, El Sereno.... I understand lots of forms of ghetto..
This weekend was by far a disappointment...
Impromptu DJs for families/cultural crowds.. People walking around with Bottles of liquor... with no shame in taking Señor Frog style shots in front of families, general public, intruding on personal space.... and the..... POT... WTF ... I get it...its decriminalized, but its like having someone smoke a cigar while next to you at the bar.. just choking me while I'm trying to have a good time.. maybe because I'm 46 and my perception is changing... but seeing a family of 6 people passing a blunt in front of 3 elderly people while waiting for their car at valet, is not my experience with Vegas.. ill take the titty cards being passed to a 12 yr old in front of a priest any day...


Ok.. rant over...



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I'm 33 and I've got the same perception lol, so I don't think it's the age. It's just people that don't respect other people, or property. It's just not my scene.

Honestly if rather be in laughlin.
 
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Your absolutely right it's crazy there right now. I went last August and thought the same thing then. As soon a prices for air travel and hotel rooms go back up, they'll all head back to cheaper places..
 

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Needless to say Vegas is totally different now.... and not really liking the change that's occurring.. I was born and raised in La Puente, cruised whitter and Legg Lake, partied in norwalk, El Sereno.... I understand lots of forms of ghetto..
This weekend was by far a disappointment...
Impromptu DJs for families/cultural crowds.. People walking around with Bottles of liquor... with no shame in taking Señor Frog style shots in front of families, general public, intruding on personal space.... and the..... POT... WTF ... I get it...its decriminalized, but its like having someone smoke a cigar while next to you at the bar.. just choking me while I'm trying to have a good time.. maybe because I'm 46 and my perception is changing... but seeing a family of 6 people passing a blunt in front of 3 elderly people while waiting for their car at valet, is not my experience with Vegas.. ill take the titty cards being passed to a 12 yr old in front of a priest any day...


Ok.. rant over...



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Where did you stay? I’ve been telling the wife I really want to go. I see @shintoooo post and it looks like he always has a good time. But looks like he stays at nice hotels. Bellagio Type places. The wife and I like the Aria.
 

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FFS.. if the "pot smoking" is your biggest bitch about Vegas then maybe it wasnt so bad..lol I'd rather smell pot smoke then the the fuk head at the machine next to you that holds his cigarette in your face!! And I dont ever think I've been to Vegas that you didnt smell pot on the the strip🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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Bummer. Heading there next weekend to golf Primm both Sat and Sun while staying in Vegas overnight.
Is primm that nice? I’ve heard mixed reviews on golfing there. A day trip from bullhead there is easy as long as it’s worth it.
 

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Is primm that nice? I’ve heard mixed reviews on golfing there. A day trip from bullhead there is easy as long as it’s worth it.

Vegas would be a better place to golf. There's a lot more to this place than the strip and downtown. Hopefully they get the riff raff cleaned up soon, but like what was said before, Los Raiders are here.
 

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Our last 2 vegas trips were horrible. Same shit..ghetto as fuck. Every turn we took the kids were saying there mus th be alot of skunks in Las Vegas. 🤣🤣
 

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One of the biggest problems I’ve see in Vegas lately is the hotels have all laid off staff. That is contributing to a lot of the issues. Less security to deal with trolls - less maintenance staff to keep stuff clean- certain hotel towers not in use so looking like they are going down hill fast. Fewer staff means slower service - etc etc

I’ll be there this week again - the group I’m working with this week is trying the Westin on Flamingo, let’s see how that goes?

Havasu on Friday straight from the meeting!
 

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Back to the Future II calls it again!!
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Vegas would be a better place to golf. There's a lot more to this place than the strip and downtown. Hopefully they get the riff raff cleaned up soon, but like what was said before, Los Raiders are here.
Yep. But vegas golf is still pricey.. it is awesome but pricey.

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Primm is solid but you honestly have a 50/50 shot of it being windy. Like really windy.

My suggestion would be to stay at the Vdara and walk to the Cosmopolitan. Vdara is non smoking
 

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FFS.. if the "pot smoking" is your biggest bitch about Vegas then maybe it wasnt so bad..lol I'd rather smell pot smoke then the the fuk head at the machine next to you that holds his cigarette in your face!! And I dont ever think I've been to Vegas that you didnt smell pot on the the strip🤷🏻‍♂️

We used to arrest people for ANY use or possession when I worked on the strip. Any amount was a FELONY. So it has not been this way the whole time.

I almost knocked a cholo last week who exhaled a puff cloud in my 11 yo daughters face while we were passing by. My pregnant wife stopped me and told me its not worth it.

The shit is obnoxious and I dont want to smell it when Im in public.
 

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One of the biggest problems I’ve see in Vegas lately is the hotels have all laid off staff. That is contributing to a lot of the issues. Less security to deal with trolls - less maintenance staff to keep stuff clean- certain hotel towers not in use so looking like they are going down hill fast. Fewer staff means slower service - etc etc

I’ll be there this week again - the group I’m working with this week is trying the Westin on Flamingo, let’s see how that goes?

Havasu on Friday straight from the meeting!

It was just remodeled before Covid. That is the place I usually stay when visiting customers. I am a Marriott guy, so it is either that or the Cosmo for points and upgrades.
Almost all my customers in Vegas are running @40-66% normal staffing levels.
 

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To those saying go to Laughlin, have you been there lately? We did a guys trip up there last summer and it was ghetto there as well?
Right now its snow bird season in Laughlin, I heard the casinos spent some money remodeling and cleaning it up during Covid closures. Havent been back over yet but the traffic going in and out are seniors right now.
 

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When run by the Mob it was secure and tight and kept the customers happy. Now it's run run by liberal policticians who decriminalize everything. Just like Santa Monica and other beach towns they have become a haven for filth.

I haven't been to Vegas in 9 years. We used to love going to Mandalay Bay before they over built it. Kids would have fun at the wave pool we would get some nice dinners send my wife to spa ect. But even then the strip was a sketchy crowd.

Do they let people smoke pot inside the casinos now ?
 

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One of the biggest problems I’ve see in Vegas lately is the hotels have all laid off staff. That is contributing to a lot of the issues. Less security to deal with trolls - less maintenance staff to keep stuff clean- certain hotel towers not in use so looking like they are going down hill fast. Fewer staff means slower service - etc etc

I’ll be there this week again - the group I’m working with this week is trying the Westin on Flamingo, let’s see how that goes?

Havasu on Friday straight from the meeting!

Off the strip casinos, and you're only dealing with locals. Westin is an interesting one, I'm curious to see how that goes. Vegas is starting to open back up little by little so hopefully it gets better.

I would look at places like Suncoast, Red Rock, and Aliante. They all have nice golf courses nearby, and way less trouble.
 

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Well a couple weeks ago some douchebag was smoking in the hallway on the 32nd floor of Paris hotel at 4:30am and let me tell you the alarm was fucking loud and lasted 15 minutes. I called the front desk to see wtf they wanted us to do.
 

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Really haven’t cared for Vegas in years. I line to have a good time if I go but for what a weekend there would cost me if rather do 2 lake weekends.
Younger days well would have partied it up. But from what it sounds like on the crowds I’ve heard too it’s pretty bad and some just looking to fight for no reason.
 

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To those saying go to Laughlin, have you been there lately? We did a guys trip up there last summer and it was ghetto there as well?

We spent a few days there last week.
The Avi with it's big beach can get ghetto in summer. Many thugs swim with all their cloths on.

The snowbird winters are starting to decline as that generation dies off. Quartzite is feeling it too.

Huge off roader presence in Laughlin in the winter. Especially the Avi with its massive parking, cheap gas station, convenient free staging, camping and where you can simply drive over the Aztec road bridge to freedom in Az.

Az Leos leave SXS's and MX riders alone.

Several routes to Oatman; Massacre trail and Candy Ass.
We love heading out in the Can Am and lunch & drinks at the Oatman Hotel.

Massacre trail:

Candy Ass. Jeeps make the trail look harder than it really is:
 
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We used to arrest people for ANY use or possession when I worked on the strip. Any amount was a FELONY. So it has not been this way the whole time.

I almost knocked a cholo last week who exhaled a puff cloud in my 11 yo daughters face while we were passing by. My pregnant wife stopped me and told me its not worth it.

The shit is obnoxious and I dont want to smell it when Im in public.
I wasn’t a pot smoker but my brother and his friends were snd when they went to river or Vegas they didn’t take their weed they knew it was felony for any amount. In ca they could care less. This was mid to late 90s.
 
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