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Seriously why would a young person or even a seasoned police/deputy/leo etc feel comfortable choosing that career path knowing the disrespect, lack of support not to mention the liability , Hats off to those who still protect and serve
 
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Seriously. There is NO way I would do it today. Like said, big hats off to those that do.
 

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yup, same here.

all the respect in the world but no chance I could do it in today's world.
 

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I wouldn’t, but I appreciate the people that still choose this career path. They have a tough road ahead.

Then again, I teach at a public school—I wouldn’t start a career in education at the moment either (and I’m happy with my job).

To the cops and other first responders, thank you for keeping us safe.
 
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When you have to start second guessing what you can and cannot do to avoid going to jail, you are likely going to die. Grateful to the brave officers out there who keep us safe. I have a hard time comprehending what the future is going to look like when more and more of our best and brightest choose not to pursue a career in law enforcement.
 

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I always thought that there was a law where public servants, police and fire especially, could not be sued for making a mistake. If an officer followed departmental policy and someone died, that officer could not be prosecuted because they performed as they were trained.

Guess I was either wrong all along or there is no longer such a law. Anyone know?
 

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Yep! I told him I’d pay for his fire science classes and paramedic school etc to set him up for that. It’s an extremely competitive process for fire. I just stood in the wrong line 11 years ago.
My sons friend who is now family just got hired la city. His entire life since 15 years old has been about this. He’s 31. Extremely competitive is not an understatement.
 

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I always thought that there was a law where public servants, police and fire especially, could not be sued for making a mistake. If an officer followed departmental policy and someone died, that officer could not be prosecuted because they performed as they were trained.

Guess I was either wrong all along or there is no longer such a law. Anyone know?
The answer to that is pretty involved, but “qualified immunity” is the big one they’re trying to take away from law enforcement. If they strip that way, things will get very ugly for this profession.
 

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I have a good friend that is about 8 years away from retirement, he said fuck it. Gave his resignation.

I don't blame him. Why the fuck would you want to open yourself up to that kind of liability.

The answer to that is pretty involved, but “qualified immunity” is the big one they’re trying to take away from law enforcement. If they strip that way, things will get very ugly for this profession.
It's already gone in these woke areas.
 

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The answer to that is pretty involved, but “qualified immunity” is the big one they’re trying to take away from law enforcement. If they strip that way, things will get very ugly for this profession.
Thanks for the confirmation. It's too bad that more LEOs are unable find safe harbor in that. I don't give the general public credit for brains enough to understand the concept of qualified immunity, but it's a shame that it seems to be too conveniently forgotten these days.
 

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I always thought that there was a law where public servants, police and fire especially, could not be sued for making a mistake. If an officer followed departmental policy and someone died, that officer could not be prosecuted because they performed as they were trained.

Guess I was either wrong all along or there is no longer such a law. Anyone know?
You never know when the city/department is going to throw you under the bus..............
 

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On a business trip in central valley CA, heading up to my room in elevator and there are several young folks with Santa Cruz Acadmy shirts on. Ask them if they are up for what society is
 

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Lets try this again..Ask the if hey were up to what society has afforded them, they enthusiastically answer yes thats there career path and was there passion and dream. I thank them for there services and only hope they stay safe and make us all proud. There is hope in all of us, as some in the youth of today really understand what is important. Please say a prayer for those who choose this line of work as there path...
 

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Sons best bud is 24. Now a SD sheriff doing his 1 year jail duty.
dads a officer. He is aware of the risks versus reward of serving the public. It takes a unique person to do it, I’m not that type.
 

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I wouldn’t advise it in today’s environment. I would only go to a Red State to work. The big democrat run cities are like District 9 and they’re actively trying to abolish law enforcement. What they don’t tell you is, the reason they are working to abolish local police, is to usher in the concept of a federal police force, that will take orders from the top. Think, East German Stasi.
 

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Lets try this again..Ask the if hey were up to what society has afforded them, they enthusiastically answer yes thats there career path and was there passion and dream. I thank them for there services and only hope they stay safe and make us all proud. There is hope in all of us, as some in the youth of today really understand what is important. Please say a prayer for those who choose this line of work as there path...
It opens the question about who the next wave of recruits will be like, not those who chose the path before all the mayhem but those who follow the new "safe" methods.
Will the bad people suddenly relent to the kind hearted approach? Who knows? 🤷‍♂️
 

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Tell hime to become a fireman. A buddy says the cannot hire enough guys for the fire dept right now.
This is the truth. My department had only 300 something applicants for the next academy/tower in July. I wasnt totally shocked by that because there’s other departments that pay more and we require a paramedic license. But when I heard that Ontario only had 300 something also, I was blown away. They hire straight EMTs with an academy and get paid very well. OT and Force Hires are already through the roof because of low staffing and it’s not fire season yet. Theres a whole host of reasons for the staffing shortage, not because we’re trying to create OT. I start 7 straight 24hr shifts on Sunday that I didn’t ask for.
If I had sons, I would steer them as far away from public service as possible. My nephews wont be following their dad and uncles foot steps if we can help it.
My step dad is retired Fontana PD and my brothers father in law is retired San Bernardino city. Im certain they wouldn’t do it again the way stuff is now.
 

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I have almost 29 years in, just months from retirement. In today’s climate I wouldn’t recommend this career to anyone. The events of the last year or so, including yesterday’s verdict, is just the beginning. I wish these new guys the best, but frankly, they are fucked!
 

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I have almost 29 years in, just months from retirement. In today’s climate I wouldn’t recommend this career to anyone. The events of the last year or so, including yesterday’s verdict, is just the beginning. I wish these new guys the best, but frankly, they are fucked!
Congrats for the 29 years and for only having a few months to go. Stay safe!
 

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It opens the question about who the next wave of recruits will be like, not those who chose the path before all the mayhem but those who follow the new "safe" methods.
Will the bad people suddenly relent to the kind hearted approach? Who knows? 🤷‍♂️
Less pay
Less pension
Less life experience

Federales and bribery
That is what is coming to LA and NYPD

Rampart scandal will be child’s play in 20 years
The low quality of recruits we have is disgusting

First shooting test : after 40 hours of shooting :
11 of 37 failed

abyssmal
But they were picked for reasons other than highest test and interview scores, that I know for a fact.
 

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Less pay
Less pension
Less life experience

Federales and bribery
That is what is coming to LA and NYPD

Rampart scandal will be child’s play in 20 years
The low quality of recruits we have is disgusting

First shooting test : after 40 hours of shooting :
11 of 37 failed

abyssmal
But they were picked for reasons other than highest test and interview scores, that I know for a fact.
I agree with you 100 percent. Our profession is turning into a fucking joke and it’s really sad.
 

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if they get rid of Qualified Immunity then police officers will not be able to afford to be officers without the risk of loosing there own personal property, they will have to almost buy a kind of malpratice insurance
And small business owners will have to fend for themselves shortly after that.
Anyone who thinks response times ate bad now might as well be ready for double that time once qualified immunity is voted out.
 

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I’m 30 and I’ve been seriously considering it. But not sure I want to leave a successful construction business.

For some reason something inside me wants to pursue it.


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My thoughts after 29 years :

Community Oriented Policing is dead

I’ve had soccer Moms in sienna mini vans shout I’m a racist as I stand with Cops debriefing a Bomb Call

I’ve had 70 year olds say I’m the “problem” as I walk a foot beat on the Red Line, not doing anything to them.

I’m an occupying force there to stop active shooters or apply totniquets when not doing Bomb Shit.
We Cops are not wanted in LA by all ages, races, economic backgrounds.
We get it, and work / protect ourselves accordingly.
 

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My thoughts after 29 years :

Community Oriented Policing is dead

I’ve had soccer Moms in sienna mini vans shout I’m a racist as I stand with Cops debriefing a Bomb Call

I’ve had 70 year olds say I’m the “problem” as I walk a foot beat on the Red Line, not doing anything to them.

I’m an occupying force there to stop active shooters or apply totniquets when not doing Bomb Shit.
We Cops are not wanted in LA by all ages, races, economic backgrounds.
We get it, and work / protect ourselves accordingly.
Hey at least we have 3 at 50 right?
 

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Bro, DON’T FUCKING DO IT!
I keep hearing that from people in law enforcement so I should probably take the advice lol.

Question to those of you in Law Enforcement. During Rodney King era I imagine the police were looked at negatively. Is that comparable to today’s sentiment from the public in regards to LEOs? Or different circumstances?


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My thoughts after 29 years :

Community Oriented Policing is dead

I’ve had soccer Moms in sienna mini vans shout I’m a racist as I stand with Cops debriefing a Bomb Call

I’ve had 70 year olds say I’m the “problem” as I walk a foot beat on the Red Line, not doing anything to them.

I’m an occupying force there to stop active shooters or apply totniquets when not doing Bomb Shit.
We Cops are not wanted in LA by all ages, races, economic backgrounds.
We get it, and work / protect ourselves accordingly.
I always try to thank LAPD & LASD officers when I see them


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I have almost 29 years in, just months from retirement. In today’s climate I wouldn’t recommend this career to anyone. The events of the last year or so, including yesterday’s verdict, is just the beginning. I wish these new guys the best, but frankly, they are fucked!
Congrats Bro. Good to hear you are almost done.
 

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I keep hearing that from people in law enforcement so I should probably take the advice lol.

Question to those of you in Law Enforcement. During Rodney King era I imagine the police were looked at negatively. Is that comparable to today’s sentiment from the public in regards to LEOs? Or different circumstances?


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X 100times worse
Was brand new in Apr. 92’

Why?

Everyone hates us now
Was only certain areas in 92’ and 90% of that was criminal element

When you have affluent , non criminal types telling you that you are racist for wearing a badge, well, you know that you can never trust anyone.
You are alwaye wary of people, but now you know an attack can come from all walks of life , as well
As the hate.
 

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I keep hearing that from people in law enforcement so I should probably take the advice lol.

Question to those of you in Law Enforcement. During Rodney King era I imagine the police were looked at negatively. Is that comparable to today’s sentiment from the public in regards to LEOs? Or different circumstances?


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It is 1000 times worse now than after Rodney King. @LowRiver2 do you agree?
 

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I keep hearing that from people in law enforcement so I should probably take the advice lol.

Question to those of you in Law Enforcement. During Rodney King era I imagine the police were looked at negatively. Is that comparable to today’s sentiment from the public in regards to LEOs? Or different circumstances?


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My grandfather spent 33 years with the L.A. County Sheriffs Office, retired as a Captain in 1990. He’s seen some shit. He always told me that support and public perception of law enforcement is a pendulum, and it always swings from positive side to negative side and back and forth, and always has. He feels that pendulum has broken off, and will never swing back. I think he’s right.
 

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I’m pretty middle of the road on most issues. However I’ve always had respect for those willing to lay down their lives to protect others.

Sorry to hear those of you in Law Enforcement have lost that respect from the public.


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I’m pretty middle of the road on most issues. However I’ve always had respect for those willing to lay down their lives to protect others.

Sorry to hear those of you in Law Enforcement have lost that respect from the public.


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I appreciate that. Nobody made us become cops so being hated is part of the job to a certain extent. The sad part is it’s the citizens who will suffer the most by society cutting off the balls of the police. Especially the citizens who don’t have the means to take care of themselves, because it’s going to come to that.
 
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