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  1. zx14

    zx14 Well-Known Member

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    3CC3E5F6-AF62-4325-ADE2-9E5242E92636.jpeg 45C89903-BF76-41D1-88EA-7D54CE886CF9.jpeg 0C5ED394-94C9-4F96-BDD7-08003CBCD00E.jpeg [GALLERY=][/GALLERY]When the pinion gear blew out the front, it jammed the driveshaft in ether the gimbal bearing or the coupler splines. Other than buying and making some kind of slidehammer to attach to the end of the shaft, any of you ingenious inmates have a idea how to get this out? Check out those splines, guess there was a bit of torque before things went kablewy.
     
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    wsuwrhr The Masheenest

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    Ooooouch......I think that is your only option.

     
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    mjc Nosy Neighbor

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    Dual pry bars
     
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    wsuwrhr The Masheenest

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    With two people may work.

    Wear some type of facemask if you attempt this method. Unless of course you admire hockey inspired dental work. :)

    Brian

     
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    Icky Well-Known Member

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    I'd be concerned about cracking something using pry bars
     
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    mjc Nosy Neighbor

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    I can get really creative. Hook a chain to it then to your truck and give a little jerk on it, should pop right out.
     
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    wsuwrhr The Masheenest

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    Ok, the first one was satire as well, then.

    Ok, I get it. :)

    Brian

     
  8. Icky

    Icky Well-Known Member

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    Maybe try tapping it with a dead bow from the sides to loosen it up while you pull on it with a ratchet strap attached to something solid.

    Or the slide hammer should work. If everything else fails
     
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    If you have a hydrolic power pack you could use a pin puller and a piece of pipe. Only issue would be can the house g take the force.
     
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    zx14 Well-Known Member

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    I took a 2x2 to hold the gimbal ring still and then a 4’ crowbar stuffed into the cv then a piece of 1x to protect the gimbal then a 5lbs sledge tapping the solid part of the cv, no bueno, being everything back here is cast aluminum, I’m trying not to get to crazy, I think there is no more damage, I have looked really close where the gimbal bearing in pressed in, and see no cracks. Fingers crossed

    Truck is not a bad idea, if the boat ends up laying on the driveway I’ll let ya know. Or I may have to get Aaron involved at Max, wish they where open on Saturday’s, they are only 2 miles away.
     
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    Runs2rch Well-Known Member

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    Slide hammer should do the trick.
     
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    Icky Well-Known Member

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    wsuwrhr The Masheenest

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    Oh my. No words.

    You didn't really pull on it like that....did you?

    Brian
     
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    zx14 Well-Known Member

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    Yup, I only used the Jeep for an anchor , and ratcheted, and tapped, was afraid to get too crazy, don’t want to get killed or break any more of it,
     
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    Runs2rch Well-Known Member

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    Slide hammer!!
     
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    zx14 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, kinda hard to get at it, used a 12”x1” chisle like punch thing I have to get down in there, at one point I think it popped out like 1/8”..
     
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    Icky Well-Known Member

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    Nothing wrong with that unless he did the glamis pull on it.
    It should just be for pressure while tapping not trying to drag the boat off.
     
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    wsuwrhr The Masheenest

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    Why all the drama? Cant you just fashion up and use a slide hammer in the H bar.?
     
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    Icky Well-Known Member

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    Yes I agree its slide hammer time.
     
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    wsuwrhr The Masheenest

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    Yeap, see post #2. ;)

    If it doesn't pop off or slide with one or two good hits, the whole thing is prolly fubar.

    I hear Outdrives are awesome. insert roll eyes here. :)


     
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    Icky Well-Known Member

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    If you dont have a slide hammer, or cant find one you can make one with a piece of all thread and piece of tubing.
    Where are u located
    Have to checked inside to make sure there's nothing holding it in? Damaged splines etc, has the bearing moved?
     
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    zx14 Well-Known Member

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    You make it sound so easy, how do I attach a slide hammer? It’s not like the end of one is going to be the same size , thead count and pitch as the end of the driveshaft and come with a long coupling nut to tie the 2 together, I don’t have a machine shop at my disposal.
     
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    zx14 Well-Known Member

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    Real hard to see if something inside is holding it, you can’t see in the coupler, you can only see a few inches of driveshaft as it exits the gimbal then enters the engine bell housing.
    Boats in Havasu
     
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    wsuwrhr The Masheenest

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    Arent there two holes in the Hbar of the driveline?

     
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    wsuwrhr The Masheenest

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    Well fuck, I am trying to help here sir.

    Arent you the tease who posts pictures of smoking meat and then doesn't invite anyone over? Just curious. ;)


    Take a picture of the whole driveline please.

    I am sure something could be fastened to the side of the Hbar driveline out of the picture frame.

    This picture.

    View attachment 681158



     
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    zx14 Well-Known Member

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    “H” bar? Some part of the cv? No holes
     
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    zx14 Well-Known Member

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    And I appreciate any help, just getting frustrated here, and no, I have no smoked meat,,,lol, what is a h bar?
     
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    wsuwrhr The Masheenest

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    View attachment 681158

    This driveline is called an H Bar, please take a picture of the whole thing, if you will sir.

     
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    wsuwrhr The Masheenest

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    Ok different doood.

    Yep trying to help from 200 miles away sir.

     
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    Ok, stuck my fat head down behind engine with a mirror, I can see about 1/4” of driveshaft splines not in coupler so I’m guessing I’m ok there. I measured the pinion gear before I took it off and made some capairison measurements with the snout of the upper, it’s within maybe 1/4” of where it should be to mesh with the drive gears. The gimbal bearing looks like the center of it is pushed in, in the center portion. I don’t know if I moved it a bit or what, but there seems to be about 3/16” of shiny driveshaft showing outside the gimbal bearing on the outside of the boat( between gimbal bearing and where the machining stops for the u joint knuckle.
     

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    zx14 Well-Known Member

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    You have a machine shop in San Dimas? I have a apt in Rancho Cucamonga, work from there, no jobs in Havasuuuu
     
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    wsuwrhr The Masheenest

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    Shop is in Upland off Central, by The Hat.

     
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    zx14 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe I’m catching on,”slow learner” if I could pull the u joint apart, yes there would be 2 holes. I’ve done u joints , pressed them in and out with a vise and a socket.
     
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    wsuwrhr The Masheenest

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    I got a couple ideas. sent you a pm with my phone number.

    You could gently try MJCs idea of prybars behind the H bar but that is dangerous, even with two peeps.

    Im thinkin of pulling off the front side yoke off the H bar and using a slide hammer attached through the two holes left by removing the yoke. Does that make sense?

    Brian
     
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    zx14 Well-Known Member

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    Ok, I know the area, grew up in Alta Loma.
     
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    wsuwrhr The Masheenest

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    Yeap, xaaaactly...or sawzall the yoke off at the first U joint or whatever. that yoke aint no good. Likely the whole H bar is no good anyway.

    Brian

     
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    Damn..... nice spline twist
     
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    zx14 Well-Known Member

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    Ya, goes to show you the aluminum coupler is strong enough.
     
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    Yup. Not much else to prove that one.
     

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